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Pinks
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   Posted 11/23/2008 7:33 PM (GMT -7)   
I read about someone who had a CT scan, echo stress test, and results came back normal. Then he had an angiogram which showed he had an artery 99% blocked. I'd just like to know how the first 2 tests could have missed this out - is it the accuracy of the tests, or how it was done? Or more importantly, what are CT scans and echo stress tests supposed to show?

Johnny Knee Bone
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   Posted 11/27/2008 9:47 PM (GMT -7)   
angiogram shows all your blood vessels very clear except they have to be read by a nuclear doctor possibly because cardiologists can't lol so any blocked blood vessels will show provided they're actually looked over and not just filed ,

an echo shows blood moving around not much more than that its sort of the difference between old film processing and digital pixels (by way of ultrasound of course).

I'm not sure what an echo stress test is ...stress tests are a very straaaaaaaange concept to say the least in my opinion its just one of those things that makes no sense when people have heart attacks after them but for whatever reason medical professionals were told to believe in them as useful diagnostic tools ...

I did my dipyridamole (stress by injection rather than treadmill) and told the nurse I had 2 ECGs and a chest xray before my heart attack she said 'oh I believe it', then I asked if those things show previous heart attacks she said 'sometimes they do sometimes they don't' .

What any stress does is mostly show whether you ARE currently having a heart attack and really nothing more than that . You can't tell anyone they are useless even if you prove it they have vivid imaginations about different types of signatures within graphing it truly is a strange world some of those medical professionals live in like they are stuck in a bubble even when they agree with you anyhow it seems likely that its the importance of that one 99% blockage ...the normal human body is riddled with plugged vessels and tears some negative some possitive so they usually don't do much unless you are really plugged up to the point of life threatening or loosing circulation severely otherwise they could spend your entire life fixing blood vessels without ever getting off the operating table so to speak.

at an older age usually above 70 years of age you end up with sympathetic blood vessels throughout the body these are super tiny blood vessels and fill the body so much so that seniors have many more times the blood vessels than say someone at the age of 40 or 50 so the end result is they have a better survival rate and yes they do have blockages but these tiny blood vessels compensate .that should give you a bit of an idea of the value of that 99% blockage .

If you need that blockage fixed sometimes you may have to demand it . I spent the last two days in a waiting room full of heart patients and had a chance to speak with every one of them it was very enlightening some of them had to demand the help because if pain and angina don't go away then you just have to brush off the lack of help and find a doctor who will help .

thinking of you and best wishes to stay well and be well pinks .

Pinks
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   Posted 11/28/2008 7:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Johnny for your reply.

ECGs, I don't trust them. But the echo stress test is something which I find strange; not everyone with some form of heart disease will have symptoms or abnormalities during exertion, right?

Johnny Knee Bone
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   Posted 12/1/2008 1:25 AM (GMT -7)   
hi Pinks

exactly, you know medicine is such a finicky unexact business the more you are involved in it the sooner it will bite you the wrong way and you learn all the faults or lack of usefulness it can carry .I like the truth but rarely will a doctor share the truth maybe it has everything to do with saving face or protecting their dignity who really knows for sure but I've heard it all from medical staff .The last one told me sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't when I asked if those ECGs can show a past MI ....and a nurse telling me her dad did a stress test it was normal and then he dropped dead outside the hospital .

I always used to wonder why people pray for doctors now I know they need all the help they can get there are alot of negatives and positives but if it is our only chance we have two options that work hand in hand number one is pray and hope they make the right decisions when we really need them educate ourselves advocate what they do by demanding answers and the other is help ourselves with the most healthy lifestyles we can accomplish to avoid them as much as possible .
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