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Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 7/29/2013 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi there :-) I'm new to this site,so I'll start with a little info about myself! I'm 33 yrs old and for the last 10 yrs I've had the odd skipped heartbeat here and there,but since the birth of my third child,who is 15 months old now,I've experienced more and more frequent PVC'S!! Sometimes they occur every other beat and last for hours!! I've had an echo cardiogram and that came back normal,They have also been caught on ECG, and the doctors have said not to worry,but that's easier said than done.I'm due to have a holter moniter fitted in Sept! So in the meantime I'm struggling to cope with these PVC storms, I really don't want my little boy to see me in a panic!! Does anyone here suffer these Ectopics?? And if so,what do you do to stay calm!! Also I don't smoke,drink,or have much caffeine!! So I'm wondering why I'm getting these so frequent!! I don't know who else to turn to!! Please help!! confused

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   Posted 7/29/2013 4:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Everyone has an irregular heartbeat. Something triggers our awareness. Perhaps our personality is extra sensitive. Stress is most often mentioned as the trigger.  Chronic stress may increase our sensitivity to an irregular heartbeat. Whatever the cause if you've been checked out medically and your Dr. has told you that you are OK then the problem is probably  not physical.
 

Stress is necessary for life. You need stress for creativity, learning, and your very survival. Stress is only harmful when it becomes overwhelming and interrupts the healthy state of equilibrium that your nervous system needs to remain in balance. Unfortunately, overwhelming stress has become an increasingly common characteristic of contemporary life. When stressors throw your nervous system out of balance, relaxation techniques can bring it back into a balanced state by producing the relaxation response, a state of deep calmness that is the polar opposite of the stress response.

Meditation is a good way to learn to control your stress; try this video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/healthealingnetwork?feature=pyv&ad=4342564202&kw=meditation&v=yHYKSYPoNg4&lr=1

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Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 7/30/2013 1:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you so much for your reply!! I'll check out the video as soon as!! I could certainly do with some stress relief! I'm on a waiting list for CBT,so hopefully that will help too!! And thanks once again!! Sites like this give people hope!! :-)

LB1976
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   Posted 7/30/2013 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Miss Spice -

I too have been cursed with these episodes of PVCs. I am 36. I used to get them once in a while also. A few months ago I had like 3 or 4 in a day and thought that was bad (I chalked it up to my husband losing his job). They went away until earlier this month when I started getting 3 or 4 in a minute. I freaked out (I have horrible health anxiety)! After the 3rd day I went to the ER where I was diagnosed with the PVCs.

Since then, they come and go. My first bout lasted about 5 days, went away for 6 days then came back for 4 days. Now I haven't had any for a few days, but I am constantly anxious just waiting for them to come back.

I saw my PCP and cardiologist. They both said they are no concern and not to worry (which is much easier said than done). My cardiologist told me than the chances of the PVCs causing a heart attack or arrhythmia in someone my age is virtually non-existent. The worrying about them is more detrimental than the actual PVCs.

Hopefully you will find relief soon.

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 7/31/2013 1:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi LB, yes it is frustrating when the doctors tell you not to worry about them, because the sensation of PVC'S to me feel horrible! I wish I was one of those people that get them but don't feel them!! I've tried most things like taking magnesium, vitamin supplements, fish oil, cutting out sugar,caffeine..you name it, but the pesky things remain!! I get them almost every day here and there,especially after eating or stress!! But its the PVC storms that bother me!! Its so hard to sleep when that's happening!! Its funny you should say about having health anxiety, I suffer that too!! I think we must be wired up a little differently.. lol. Take care and the best advice I could give is if they haven't killed ya yet,then they probably won't!! :-)

Hilia
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   Posted 8/13/2013 2:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been having pvcs for the past 5 months. I feel each and every one of them. They are extremely scary and exhausting. I recall, in the past, getting one or two a month but now they are on a daily, consistent basis. I am having 3,000 in a 24 hour period. This was recorded on a Halter monitor. At the end of the first week while having these pvcs I could feel the extra beat getting shorter, felt like a little squirt bottle in my chest, the next day I had very few and they stopped all together. I was so excited and thought this may have been something in passing since my cardiologist said everything was structurally fine with my heart. The celebration was short, as the next day the pvcs started up again and have not subsided since. They are relentless and disturbing. I have literally stopped eating or doing anything that I thought might be causing this including caffeine, chocolate, sugar, carbonated drinks, heavy meals. It has been months since partaking in any of these things, they are well flushed out of my system by now, however the pvcs continue. I am very afraid to take medication, I also am afraid all of this irregular heart muscle contractions are weakening its normal function and that pvcs could ultimately turn into a worse arrhythmia. I don't know what to do! I am currently on an event monitor which is not helpful at all because I will be pressing the record bottom thousands of times a day and since it only fits 3 recordings I have to pick and chose which ones i think are worth noting. I am currently looking into home remedies. These need to stop and never return like NOW!

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 8/14/2013 1:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello there,fellow PVC sufferer :-) I'm still getting these dreaded PVC's, and really can't stand the way they feel!! I've tried all the things that supposed to help control them, Magnesium,fish oil, no chocolate,coffee,tea,sugar...you name it, but the PVC's continue!! I really do think stress plays a big part in it,as the more stressed you are,the more you get!! Also for me, they play up more when I'm due for my period,so it could be hormones too!! I think the best thing I've learned is when your having bad runs of them....like me I get them every other beat for hours sometimes!! Is to accept that they are there,and not to fight them!! That just makes it worse! Also if you want some chocolate,or something you fancy,don't deprive yourself,go ahead and have it! I don't really think that a little chocolate or one cup of coffee is going to harm you!! Plus you will drive yourself round the bend thinking you can't have certain foods and drinks! I'm having monitor fitted in a couple of weeks,I'm intrigued to know how many I get in one day!! You said you had 3000 in one day, if you read on some forums there is people who have 15.000 plus in one day,so try to think on the bright side....it could be worse!! Take care !! xx

Hilia
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   Posted 8/15/2013 11:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks miss spice bomb. I understand how u feel. I have stopped consuming anything that I think would trigger a pvc but because I haven't had those foods in so long and I'm still getting pvcs Im beginning to think that it's pointless and that these things weren't the culprits that triggered the pvcs in the first place. Therefore, I am being more lenient with what I eat knowing that its not making a difference. I would however really love to pinpoint why it is that I am getting these. I think this is what is so frustrating and just like you, I cannot stand feeling this way. I'm so desperate I went out a bought some grape juice because I heard it helps with palpitations. Although it is comforting to know there are others out there dealing with this, everytime I get one I still become discouraged. I wish there was something that could be done to just make them disappear. It is interesting that u mention u get more around ur period. I have hormonal imbalances and believed that this could be something causing the pvcs. However, after visiting the Hormone specialist she explained that my specific elevated hormone levels could not cause pvcs. I believe an elevated thyroid level would but I had a normal thyroid level. Anyways, that pretty much flushed my theory down the toilet.

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 8/15/2013 12:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello there again :-) as I'm typing this right now my pvc's are at 3 per minute!! I'm trying really hard to stay as calm as I can!! But the sensations really are horrible!! Your hormone specialist said pvc's re not caused by hormones?? That's weird because my GP said they could!! You don't know who to believe sometimes!! I've had my thyroid checked too and mine was normal!! But I just think there maybe a link to hormones because my pvc's really get going a few days after ovulation,I've been trying to keep a diary of how often they occur in my cycle,and the few days before I get AF they are there a lot!! I also wish there was a magic pill you could take to stop them, I can't even take beta blockers because my resting heart rate is only 50 bpm ....How come you have an event monitor?? Were they not happy with your24 hour one?? I'd love to know your results from that when you get them!! I'm sure they will be fine!! I'm itching to get mine on the 2 nd September!! Have you tried electrolyte drinks?? I've heard they can help!! As when we are stressed our vitamins and minerals can deplete! I'm going to give them a go!! I've tried everything else so might as well try that!! lol..Take care xx

Hilia
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   Posted 8/15/2013 9:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello. Sorry to hear they are acting up again. Mine are to, as of now I am getting one in between each regular beat. This is very scary as I sometimes feel like I am not even going to get the regular beat anymore and my heart is just gonna get stuck in pvc mode and adios. This is scaring me badly. Thus, I am becoming overly anxious and anxiety is not what I need right now nor is it helpful in this situation. Even my event monitor went off because my heart is beginning to beat faster than normal. I think back to the first day I started to get the Pvcs and I always wonder.. If I had done something differently that day maybe these things would have never started. I wish I could turn back time. This is frustrating and grape juice is not helping!

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 8/16/2013 1:55 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm sorry your having a hard time!! Anxiety does make things worse!! In the early hours of this morning,I had to call an ambulance,as my heart just started racing all of a sudden,it made me feel really lightheaded!! I couldn't even count my pulse it was so fast!! When the ambulance got here they hooked me up to the ECG, and it was over 200 beats,then after that it started to come down a little!! It said on my read out that I had sinus arrhythmia! They said it was normal! It didn't feel normal!! I don't think I can handle pvc's and now a rapid heart beat too!! You try your best to deal with one thing and another pops up!! Anyway I hope your pvc's have calmed for you!! Stay strong!! xx

Hilia
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   Posted 8/16/2013 6:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh boy that's scary! I'm glad ur okay. I wonder what triggered your heart to beat that fast? What were u doing at the time? My heart was doing pretty weird things last night to but I know that I was very stressed last night and that may have made it worse. I'm thinking back to my 24 hr monitor results and how the results showed that during the nighttime hours, as I was sleeping, I would have less Pvcs within those hours maybe half of what I was getting during the day hours. I don't know if this is because ur heart rate slows while your sleeping, thus you won't get as many pvcs, or if there is something triggering them during the day more than at nighttime. I wonder what ur results will show when u get fitted. I Am on the event monitor for another 2 weeks but who cares because really what can be done!? Medication?! I heard medication can make the arrhythmia worse than it is!! That would be horrible to think that in trying to fix something I made it worse!!

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 8/16/2013 7:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello :-) I was actually trying to fall asleep,and all of a sudden it just started to race!! I think that scared me more than the pvc's! When my heart rate came back down,I decided to stay home and not go to hospital because as you say they can't really do any more for you!! It really is frustrating!! My husband had a heart attack when he was 26, he is 36 now,and he never gets pvc's or any other wacky heart beat neither!! So he finds it hard to understand what I'm experiencing!! He takes beta blockers,and he tolerated them pretty well!! So the meds don't always cause tons of side effects!! All he felt was a little tiredness for a couple of weeks and that was it!! But I'm like you, I don't want to take something that may make things worse!! I'll let you know my results when I get them!! xx

Hilia
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   Posted 8/16/2013 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry to hear that. My heart actually started racing last night to but i know it was because i was becoming really nervous. I used to get panic attacks quite often. I get them sometimes in the middle of the night while I'm sleeping, those are pretty frightening. However, nothing is more frightening then these dreaded pvcs. My monitor recorded a double one today with no regular beat in between. I heard this is dangerous so now I am even more scared. If it gets any worse I may have no choice but to go on medication. This really stinks. Now that I now the grape juice didn't work, or Gatorade for that matter, I'm gonna move on to another theory. Maybe bread?? I can stop eating bread for a while and see if that's what's causing it. I'm desperate at this point.

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 8/17/2013 3:00 AM (GMT -6)   
It sounds like you had a couplet!! That's nothing to worry about!! I have those too! My GP said that if you have more than three in a row that can be classed as v-tach,but he also said that normal healthy hearts can tolerate short bursts of that too!! Have you had a echocardiogram?? I had one a year ago and that came back as normal! Try not to stress too much on what your drinking and eating!! As I've said if you stress about them you will get more!! So try doing something that calms you down!! When I get bad runs i play my bass guitar and even though the pvc's are still there I hardly feel them!! I have a 15 month old son and sometimes I get a bit sleep deprived and that can make them worse!! So try to get plenty of sleep,don't stress too much( I know that's easier said than done) and don't have heavy meals because that can have an effect too!! Also do you have any digestive issues?? I have a lot of acid reflux,and I'm almost positive when that acts up so do the pvc's!! xx

Hilia
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   Posted 8/20/2013 2:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you. That news is comforting. I had an echo when these dreaded pvcs started because the doctor was concerned why I was having them so frequently. Everything came out structurally fine. However, I am always worried about heart disease as I heard pvcs along with heart disease can be fatal. I was actually on a roll for the last 2 days I was having very few which is really unusual. I haven't felt so upbeat and hopeful in months. I don't know what is was but I felt like I was having about half of what I usually have a day and it was awesome. Until today, when they came back with a vengeance and not only were they constant but violent as well. This stinks! I was really excited that I was getting better!!

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 8/20/2013 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi :-)

Glad you had a break from your pvc's :-) but as you say they come back with a vengeance!! As have mine today!! I've just posted on the anxiety and panic forum as I'm struggling to cope today,mine have been every other beat for hours and they make me feel kinda weak!! Don't know if its the pvc's causing it or the anxiety! When mine are this frequent they feel more fluttery , I prefer the thud you get!! My doc wouldn't even give me anything to calm me down!! I'm really finding it hard to relax!! I suppose I know they're not going to kill me,but its the what ifs! I think if someone said to me I wouldn't ever go into V-Tach,it wouldn't be as bad!! I think its the fear of going into V-Tach that most people are scared about when they have pvc's frequently!! I feel like I'm on a roller coaster one minute I'm up the next I'm down!!

Anyway I hope you feel better soon!

Oh yeah and my doctor said today once you get an irritable focus in your heart,its there forever!! He really knows how to cheer me up!!

SouthernAllStars
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   Posted 8/20/2013 6:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello guys although my condition is different than you all I suffer with arrhythmia PACs and maybe PVCs as well. However anti inflammtories relieve mine after a few weeks.

I believe and have evidence (from other forums and posts I lost their links) like this one:

http://www.pacemakerclub.com/public/jpage/1/p/story/a/storypage/sid/12648/content.do

that PVCs and palpitations sometimes are caused by mild inflammation in the pericardium or irritation of the heart muscle (possibly due to epicardial fat?).

In the beginning of my pericarditis when it was undiagnosable my PVCs would dissapear with a low dose of aspirin just like the guy in that post(he had no pericarditis or anything). I also saw another post in irishhealth forums? that some guy resolved his from an inflammatory point of view.

I am not saying that PVC is caused by inflammation on everyone but in a subset of people it might. Just talk to your doctor about trying anti inflammatories if you tried everything.

Now I have to take NSAIDs/rest for my arrhythmias to go away !

Hilia
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   Posted 8/21/2013 5:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I completely agree with u! If I knew for sure that these pvcs would never amount to anything and are simply an annoyance I would be able to bear. However, just as you said, there are always the 'what ifs'. Those are difficult to deal with!! My pvcs fluctuate in feeling as well, sometimes ill feel like I have just been punched in the chest while other times it feels like my heart is vibrating. It's just a plethora of awful feelings that are difficult to shake and pretend nothing is happening. Like you, I always get weak and tired when my pvcs won't let up. I'm sorry to hear u are having so many. When I get them that constant I get very anxious and I know that anxiety is not helping me. Its just a horrible cycle that is uncontrollable. You cant stop the anxiety because the pvcs wont stop and u cant control the pvcs! That really stinks! What your doc said kinda freaks me out to! Does this mean once u get pvcs they are there forever?!? Ughghg I can't deal!
I don't think I've taken an NSAID since I started having pvcs!! I have been to scared to take anything because I'm afraid it will make my heart malfunction even more. I'm going to have to talk to my cardiologist when Im done with this event monitor. This way ill know the results as well.

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 8/22/2013 1:34 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't take any other painkillers other than paracetomol, as you read that anti inflammatory painkillers can cause heart problems! I'm in a cycle at the moment where if I take something and get more PVC'S,I think that's the cause of them,like I took paracetamol the other day and my PVC'S got worse,so I'm nervous to take them again!! lol.. I really try not to let these PVC'S get the better of me but they do!! I think even when your fearing them,they are quite irritating and that gets to you too!! I try and explain to my husband that if I was to poke him every couple of minutes he would eventually get irritated by this and that's how PVC'S make me feel!! Especially when your trying to sleep!
Do you get them when your moving around??
xx

Hilia
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   Posted 8/22/2013 1:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Most definetly they are extremely bothersome and frightening. They are just like an irritating consistent poke!! More like a life threatening poke because you feel like you never know when u might drop dead from them!! I do get them when I am moving around but I tend not to feel them as much. I know how u feel, everytime I eat or do something and I start feeling them more I always attribute what I was eating or doing to causing my pvcs. It's so horrible! Just wish they would go away already I don't get why all of a sudden a heart that rarely ever had pvcs would begin having them on a consistent and frequent basis. It just doesn't make sense !!

SouthernAllStars
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   Posted 8/22/2013 4:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I have pvcs and they comeback or get worse if I stop NSAIDs. All my exams are clear(even the pericarditis doesnt show up sometimeS) and the cause of my PVCs is pericarditis. However I also had chest pain and this started with chest pain.

So if you guys have no chest pain and just PVCs with clear exams I would just relax and find a diet or something benign to get rid of them. Try to eat fruit and vegetables and drop all the garbage you eat, you might get rid of the PVCs...the stomach..vagus nerve...lungs and heart are connected you know.

Change your lifestyle, that would be my advice. For me NSAIDs and rest get rid of my PVCs but i have pericarditis ;|

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   Posted 8/23/2013 1:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I changed my lifestyle yrs ago! I don't smoke,don't drink alcohol,I eat plenty of fruit,veg and nuts,its only on occasion I have anything processed!! I have to have a monitor fitted in September,so hopefully that will show what's going on!
If I just had pvc's on there own it wouldn't be as bad,but when I get them every other beat I feel weak,dizzy and really tired!! How can that be normal?? I've even thought is it because I'm intolerant to certain foods? I really don't know,all I do know is that these critters are horrible and would like a break from them!! Mine used to be occasional but since having my third baby they plague me constantly!!

Hilia
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   Posted 8/23/2013 7:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I have tried ever combination of withholding foods from my diet which I thought could bring on pvcs. I have also began eating healthier hoping this would do away with my dreaded pvcs. Nothing has helped. I even looked into natural remedies but they didn't work. It's just really annoying I just don't get it!!

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 8/24/2013 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Today believe it or not....I had a break from PVC'S for 12 hours!!!!
Its only just now I've had couple!! I don't think I've gone that long without them in months!! I even had a takeaway last night, I just don't get it!! Looks like if you eat junk you don't get them ..lol.
I actually got anxious thinking why wasn't I getting any!! I'm so used to my heart doing thumps and jumps,that it felt weird having a regular heartbeat!! :-)
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