TSH gone up - be a cause for pvcs?

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hazelnut86
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   Posted 2/19/2014 1:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been having a lot of pvcs is lately went to the doctor for work up today and found out my TSH is 5.65 .could this be the cause of them? I know this is more of a hyper symptom just wondering if anybody had that happened? all of my other bloodwork came out great.

I've also been under a lot of stress. Lost my job and wondering if stress can cause a change in thyroid levels

thank you all so much for your responses to my previous posts about this.

i called my cardiologist's office and she wanted me to double my atenolol which i don't want to. my bp would be too low.

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 2/19/2014 1:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello!

Please forgive me but what is TSH?

And as for upping beta blockers, I wouldn't do that either!
I have low blood pressure normally and when it gets too low I can feel tired and I get dizzy spells!

I sat eating my lunch earlier and I had PVC's every other heartbeat for 10 minutes!
And although I'm not bothered anymore, I thought they started because i took some painkillers for my headache! Funny how you blame it on certain things when they go off on one!! Lol :-)

How are you feeling today? Have they eased up at all?

hazelnut86
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   Posted 2/19/2014 1:55 PM (GMT -6)   
TSH is how they monitor your thyroid levels anyway yes they are getting a little bit better I just had a really intense interview and I didn't have any dUring my interview which was shocking because before and after I did I guess cuz I wasn't thinking about them anyway its just so hard to ignore them and not think about that but I'm getting a little bit better at it. did your headache medicine have caffeine in it?

JungRulz
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   Posted 2/19/2014 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH)

/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid-stimulating_hormone

You mentioned doubling your Atenolol. How much are you taking now?

You mentioned your blood pressure being low, what is it normally?

My Cardiologist knew I was only taking 1/4 of a 50 mg Atenolol twice a day. My resting pulse was only 60, and I ain't no athlete ;-)

He said I could take more, but I was concerned about my pulse being too low. He said it would be fine even below 60 as long as I didn't feel dizzy or feel like I was going to pass out while standing. I was having thousands of PVCs per day. My wife was tired of listening to me complain (hey, I don't know any people that can feel them that enjoy them). She convinced me to start taking 1/2 pill twice a day, which was fine with the cardiologist that said I could take 50 mg once per day or 25 mg twice per day. My PVCs fell from thousands per day to hundreds per day. My resting pulse is around 55, and I feel fine.

It will not work for everyone, but it worked for me, at least for the time being ;-)

hazelnut86
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   Posted 2/19/2014 2:33 PM (GMT -6)   
that's exactly what she told me to do. my pcp just said live with them. ugh

she said only if my blood pressure was above 110 first. i said i might try 12.5 at night along with the 25 in the morning but not 50. i know my body and know it would be too much. i once had a cardiologist tell me that the slower your heartrate the more you feel them. not sure how often this is true.

i'm taking 25 mg in the morning right now. my bp is normally around 115/70.

i just want to know why i'm having so many pvcs!!! it makes me mad! i've been very irritable lately because of them. i was afraid to do an interview this morning because of them but during i only felt one so that was nice. weird.

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 2/19/2014 3:23 PM (GMT -6)   
yes it did have caffeine in!
it made my headache go quick but started off my PVC'S!! lol

for me personally my PVC'S are at their worst when my heart rate is slower!
my lowest recorded heart rate at rest was 46 bpm
and at one point it went to 38bpm when I was asleep!
all this was recorded on holter monitor.
so I was always put off beta blockers.
my cardio told me that PVC'S are difficult to treat and that there is only three main options...which are tolerate them,take beta blockers,or go for RF Ablation!
I opted to tolerate them, as beta blockers are not for me and ablation seems too risky for a so called benign condition!
the fear side of them has faded but they are incredibly annoying!
I try to tell my husband that if I were to poke him in his side 2 times every minute all day every day,that he would be driven crazy by it! lol.

if your thyroid is a bit off then that could be a cause!

palpit
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   Posted 2/19/2014 4:26 PM (GMT -6)   
That's funny as I always tell my husband and doctor that they should imagine being poked in the middle of their chest every few seconds non stop. Like chinese water torture. I'm still not sure they get it.

JungRulz
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   Posted 2/19/2014 4:49 PM (GMT -6)   
I've seen that "The slower your heart rate the more you feel them" but that's for some, not others. Can't tell you how many times I've been plagued with more PVCs than normal, taken my pulse, and found rather than 60 resting rate, it was in the 70's. Take my second dose that day a little early and shazzam, the extra PVCs decrease in number. (I've been told by my cardiologist to take more when they are a problem, no one should do this without consulting your doctor).

Yet you may notice them more if your heart rate is slower due to what is known as a "Compensatory Pause".

Which is: "The pause following an extrasystole, when the pause is long enough to compensate for the prematurity of the extrasystole; the short cycle ending with the extrasystole plus the pause following the extrasystole together equal two of the regular cycles."

So, if you're heart is beating slower, the pause should be longer, the heart fills with more blood than usual, and when the next beat occurs after the pause, you feel the bang in your chest as the blood is pushed out. This is the reason we feel them to begin with, we usually don't feel the premature beat, we feel the extra effort necessary to clear the additional blood in the heart.

Alas, the madder and more irritable you are, the more likely you are to get them, adrenaline comes into play. Trust me, I've had them for 40 years now, no matter how frustrated I am, no matter how much I want them to go away, they won't, you just can't bargain with them. If I relax, not for hours, or days, or weeks, but long term, they occasionally go away for awhile. Oh it's heavenly, I even start drinking coffee again. Many people have them but don't feel them, but they're still the same, provided they don't represent structural or electrical issues with their hearts, benign is benign whether or not you can feel them.

While we're on that topic, you don't use caffeine or smoke I hope? No alcohol? Watch the cold medications, diet pills, stuff like that.

Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 2/20/2014 1:34 AM (GMT -6)   
No smoking,no alcohol,no caffeine,no sugar!
But i still get them!
Sorry I'm not sure if this question was meant for me or someone else!!
:-)

JungRulz
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   Posted 2/20/2014 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   
You've taken it a step further than me. Oddly enough, the reason I don't smoke, drink, or consume caffeine is due to the PVCs. So in that sense they have done me a favor. I don't use much sugar, but never even gave that a thought.
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