Is my heart rate normal

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DonavonWD
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   Posted 5/25/2014 4:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm 21, male, I am obese (400 pounds), I'm OCD and have very bad anxiety. I take the following meds: invega, fluvoxamine, benztropine, zoloft, and buspirone. I've always been scared somethings wrong with my heart. like 3 years ago i called the ambulance twice in 2 weeks cause i thought something was wrong with my heart. turned out it was fine.. about a month and half ago i went to the er complaining of dizziness and a heated feeling in my chest. they did ekg, heart monitor, blood test, everything was fine. he said the dizziness was caused from inner ear fluid or something. anyways, since im so overweight, is it normal for my resting heart rate to be around 56-68, mostly in the morning when i wake up or am sitting down for a long time? but when i walk around or do something active it varies around 76-86 id say. is this normal? im very very unactive and obese, i would have figured id have a higher rate. Is this normal? Will I be ok?

JungRulz
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   Posted 5/25/2014 6:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm wondering if one physician placed you on these medications, more than one, and if more than one, if each physician is aware of what the other physicians prescribed?

In addition, are all these prescriptions filled at the same pharmacy? Pharmacies are supposed to use a system that checks for interactions between medications.

It is important for any and all doctors prescribing medication to know what other medications, including over-the-counter medications, supplements, vitamins, and herbs, and illegal drugs (not saying this applies) that you are taking. Then, rather than relying on the best intentions of doctors, as they, too, are only human, you need to get the prescriptions filled at the same pharmacy, and speak with the pharmacist there about your medications (all of them), supplements, vitamins, herbs, etc. You can also go to a pharmacy where you only have a few of your prescriptions filled and tell them what other medications and supplements you are taking, they can check.

Pharmacists in the U.S. used to be registered pharmacists RPh, now they are Pharm-D (sounds agricultural) which is a Doctorate in Pharmacy. Pharmacists (especially good ones) have more knowledge, IMHO, of the side effects and interactions between medications than doctors.

That said, in my opinion, 55-68 resting heart rate is normal, depending on conditioning, just be sure it's regular. Ectopic beats, such as PVCs, can cause compensatory pauses, these make the heart rate appear slower, but the rate would not be regular. The presence of PVCs, if you have any, are usually not a cause for concern, but asking your doctor for advice would be advised.

76 - 86 also appears normal. If you are short of breath, dizzy, lightheaded, these may be more significant indicators than rate by itself. Walking around is subjective, so it's hard to guess just how active you are.

Bottom lines:

You can't be diagnosed on a forum, you need to see your doctor to best answer your questions. I'm neither a doctor or pharmacist, just, like so many other people on this forum, offering stories of our own experiences.

The best way to assure your continued health is proactively, reducing your weight, eating the right foods, getting modest amounts of physician approved exercise. Medications are great for delaying problems, or improving the quality of life for people with conditions, but if proper care of ourselves can keep us healthy without them, we'd be better off. Years ago, after a night of drinking, I totalled a motorcycle. Though wearing a helmet, I bounced off the street quite hard. Within a year or so of this, I developed a condition that went undiagnosed for over 15 years. I developed seizures. "If only I had" it to do over again, and not drank the night before I wrecked, or not drank at all, or not rode motorcycles (at least not wrecked them) my life would be significantly different than it is today, I wouldn't be on a medication I don't need, I can only guess how that would have improved my life.

"If only I had". You're still at that point, you can make the right decisions. Talk with your doctor, ask for a review of your medications, overall health, and concerns, appreciate that your life is just really starting.

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   Posted 5/25/2014 8:16 AM (GMT -6)   
 
Hello and welcome to HealingWell.  JR has done an awesome job of answering your questions while adding his wisdom to his post to you.
 
I will just add that chest pain and anxiety go hand in hand for many people.  We have a great Anxiety forum where the members are kind and caring.  If you ever feel the need talk with the members in that forum you will find it at the following link:
 

I hope that you can get to a resolution regarding this situation. Please feel free to post anytime you need to talk about how you are feeling. We are here to support you and offer help when we can.

Kindly,

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DonavonWD
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   Posted 5/26/2014 2:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the answers, but one more thing. I don't know if this is normal or not but my heart beat changes within the way I breathe. If I exhale all the way and hold it, my heart beat slows down and stays like that until I start breathing again. Or if I do different patterns with my breathing, the rhythm of the beats change. I'm concerned for this cause I don't know if this is normal or not. Should I make an appointment and get checked out or do you think this is normal? I did go to the hospital about a month and a half ago and they did blood tests, EKG, I was on a heart monitor, etc and they said everything was fine. But honestly it didn't seem like I had these problems then.

JungRulz
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   Posted 5/26/2014 6:40 PM (GMT -6)   
You got questions, we got answers, well, hopefully for this one at least. The effect is known as Respiratory Sinus Arrhythmia. Don't be startled by the word Arrhythmia in this case. This is a natural increase in heart rate as we breathe in, and decrease in heart rate as we breathe out. It's more pronounced in younger people, such as yourself, than in older people, such as myself.

Interesting that you noticed it. Years ago, my dog, who is still with us, was laying on the floor, and I rested my hand on his side. To my horror, his heart rate was varying, I was ready to rush him to the vets, until I noticed his breathing and changes in heart rate were reliably correlated. He was manifesting the natural Respiratory Sinus Arrhythmia.

/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagal_tone

DonavonWD
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   Posted 5/26/2014 6:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you but is that fatal? Is it life threatening? It's just scary thinking something could go wrong at any time. Remember though, I did have tests done about a month and a half ago (ekg, bloodtests). If I did have so, wouldn't it been caught, or even something could have developed since then? Sorry, due to my conditions which I take meds for, I do tend to over worry all the time.

JungRulz
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   Posted 5/26/2014 7:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Donavon, it's normal, it's supposed to happen. It's a good sign of the overall health of your system. You should feel happy that it's happening. I think it's pretty observant that you noticed it.

DonavonWD
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   Posted 5/26/2014 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah but I'm the farthest from healthy. I'm 21 and 400+ pounds. I sit on my computer all day. This is why I suspect something is wrong because I've read that healthy athletes have heart rates of around 40-50 and mines around 56-64 but around 56-60 when i exhale and hold my breath (not sure if thats supposed to happen). I would have figured with the condition I'm in, it wouldn't be that low, and since it is low, something could be wrong. But as I said, I worry 24/7 it seems. I couldn't imagine how I would feel without my medicine.

JungRulz
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   Posted 5/26/2014 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Resting Heart Rates by Species bpm (range)
Cat 120–140 Chick 350–450 Chicken (adult) 250–300
Dairy cow 48–84 Dog 70–120 Elephant 25–35
Goat 70–80 Guinea Pig 200–300 Hamster 300–600
Horse 28–40 Mouse 450–750 Ox 36–60
Pig 70–120 Rabbit 180–350 Rat 250–400

Human Heart Rates vary by individual, there really is no value set in stone. In the above examples, no one tries to say that an athletic cat or cow or hamster has a heart rate of X and a non athletic one has a heart rate of Y. Fortunately animals can't read, so they don't have to worry about what they read. Look at the variance in normal for those species!

DonavonWD
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   Posted 5/26/2014 8:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I also get palpilations every now and then (skipped beats, pauses, double beats). Is that also normal?

Thanks for the help by the way, it's really assuring. I appreciate it.

JungRulz
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   Posted 5/26/2014 10:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Sure, more so because you have already been examined. Many people have them but don't feel them. Some of us are unlucky enough to feel them.

DonavonWD
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   Posted 5/29/2014 6:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey, I have something to add. but as I said before my resting heart rate is around 56-64, but it seems this morning when waking up (laying down) it was around 52-60, but I'm not sure if it was like that because I exhaled and held my breath or just in general. Either way, is it still normal?

JungRulz
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   Posted 5/29/2014 7:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi DonavonWD,

Sure, just relax, altering your breathing alters your heart rate. If you went to the doctors, they wouldn't allow you to hold your breath while taking your pulse, or else they just wouldn't take your pulse at that time. I'm on medication, 25 mg Atenolol twice a day, my heart rate was only 55 at work the other day, while doing computer work. My doctor wanted me to take 50 mg Atenolol twice a day, my heart rate would have been slower still. One doctor told me not to take more than 25 mg twice a day, but the E.P. I saw the other day thought that 50 mg twice a day would be fine. In otherwords, he was saying, in my case, that he was unconcerned with a resting pulse slightly below 55.

stkitt
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   Posted 5/30/2014 8:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Anna,
 
Welcome to HealingWell and please know that we are always happy to see new members.
 
We do our best to share in any way we can - it is good to read you like the forum.
 
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DonavonWD
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   Posted 6/6/2014 9:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello. It's me again. For the past 2 days I've felt sort of a dizziness and I have been sleeping quite a bit. When I lay down the dizziness goes away or when im sitting down I don't notice it alot. If the dizziness was from my low heart rate (bradycardia), would my dizziness be constant and more severe/noticeable? Do you think I'll be fine? As I said in my recent posts I did go to the ER about 1 1/2 to 2 months ago for concerns and they did ekg and blood tests and said everything was fine, but did give me some medicine to treat my dizziness which they said was caused by a inner ear problem and it did fix my diziness. Could that be the problem again? I'm scared something is gonna happen to me. If I did have bradycardia and low blood pressure was causing these symptoms, will I have time to get it fixed or it will kill me. My symptoms aren't severe.

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my heart rate is still as I explained. usually when sitting up on my computer it's around 72'ish but when getting up in the morning it's around 54-62 i'd say. Thanks, I'm just really worried something serious is wrong.

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Something I forgot to ask, I did mention that I don't notice the dizziness when laying down or sitting up, but mostly when moving my head or walking. If my dizziness was from low blood pressure or bradycardia, would the dizziness be always noticeable + severe ? thanks

Post Edited (DonavonWD) : 6/6/2014 9:42:08 PM (GMT-6)


JungRulz
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   Posted 6/7/2014 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Heart Rate, 72'ish while on computer, 54-62 in the morning. That's fine. I'm on medication, but my resting rate, at work, while on the computer, was 56 and the doctor is fine with that. If you had Bradycardia and low blood pressure, you'd probably faint while getting out of bed in the morning. Your body has a lot invested in keeping you alive, I think you're selling it short. We're not frail things waiting to go over the edge at any second, look at people that survive traumatic injuries, you have various systems montitoring and adjusting things to assure you stay alive.

www.merckmanuals.com/professional/neurologic_disorders/autonomic_nervous_system/overview_of_the_autonomic_nervous_system.html

And the above link doesn't include the hormones and related chemicals that influence al these systems.

I suspect that your dizziness is related to the inner ear. The medication is often designed to suppress the symptoms, not actually treat the cause. In addition, psychogenic vertigo is possible, meaning it has a psychological and not organic cause.

DonavonWD
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   Posted 6/7/2014 3:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks. It just seems like there's always something to worry about with me. If I have any symptom I immediately think something is wrong with me. I google for Bradycardia, see the symptoms, and then days past and it seems like I have the symptoms. Like now, I've convinced myself I'm also feeling nauseas as well as partial weakness. But of course it's possible my mind is messing with me or overthinking it.

Say I was to have Bradycardia and or low blood pressure. Would the symptoms be severe and noticeable? Would I have time to get it fixed? The thing I'm worried about is having it but not doing anything about it, then something may happen and it will be too late to fix it.

JungRulz
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   Posted 6/7/2014 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
The heart has a natural pacemaker in the atria, the SA Node, it discharges and eventually gets to the AV Node. One common cause, usually in older people, of Bradycardia, is a failure of the SA Node to discharge or conduct properly to the AV Node. The AV node is a patient kind of node, but patience has limitations. The AV Node waits for the discharge from the SA Node, but if it doesn't show-up, it takes it on its own to discharge and contract the ventricles. It's a back-up, built in, for problems with the SA Node or conduction. If this would happen, you end up with a veerrryyyy veerryyy slow pulse, you carry your self with tremendous effort to the doctor, he/she hooks up the EKG and viola, they know what's wrong and what to do to fix it.

There are other things that slow your heart, like your parasympathetic nervous system, it's wired straight in, and these are almost always normal feedback responses to things changing in your body. Low blood pressure isn't usually a problem unless you faint from it, then diagnosis of why you're fainting is warranted.

Would you have time to get it fixed, certainly, nothing you say indicates profound low blood pressure, and it's better low than high. Bradycardia would have you protected by the AV Node back-up, so no need to sweat that one either.

DonavonWD
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   Posted 6/7/2014 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
JungRulz said...
If this would happen, you end up with a veerrryyyy veerryyy slow pulse, you carry your self with tremendous effort to the doctor


So you're saying if this were to be happening, my symptoms would be severe and noticeable. What do you think a pulse would have to be for this to happen? cause the lowest mine has been was one morning it was around 52-60. i think i was reading it right, not sure.

And thank you so much for all of your support and answers, they have definitely, DEFINITELY, made me reassure everything. I highly appreciate it.

JungRulz
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   Posted 6/7/2014 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Donavon,

I'd say heart rates, in people that have not otherwise experienced them, in the mid to low 30's. It would represent a change from a previous norm of that degree. The AV Node waits to respond to the SA Node, and discharges on its own if it doesn't receive the signal from the SA Node. Pretty neat design.

Thanks for the kind words.

pvct
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   Posted 6/14/2014 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I am new to this forum. But I want to say that my heart rate varies because of the beta blockers I take. But you have a lot of support here. I am glad to be a part of it. Best Wishes.

JungRulz
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   Posted 6/14/2014 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to HealingWell PVCT.

You know me as Artaud on Medhelp. Glad to see you here. The moderator of this forum is Kitt, I've spoken of her elsewhere. The pace is a little slower here, right now at least, but the advice is good. One thing I like about posting here is the improved text box with features like Bold, Italic, strikethrough, etc.

Another is that you can edit posts. How I dread hitting post only to see an error in what I posted, here things can be fixed and your post will be marked as edited. I type some of my posts in a Text program on my Android Tablet and paste into this window. The HTML code for doing bold etc. is easy to remember and can be done in the text program.

When responding, there is a quick reply, where none of these features are accessible, but if you use "Post Reply" (press that tab before writing in the quick reply box) rather than Quick Reply, you'll be taken to the fancier text box. smilewinkgrin

Great to see you here.

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pvct
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   Posted 6/14/2014 6:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks JR for your reply and kind words. It is a pleasure to belong to this forum

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   Posted 6/15/2014 10:25 AM (GMT -6)   
pvct,
 

Welcome to HealingWell. This is Kitt :-)   You have found a safe,  and reliable support community for people battling a range of health issues.

We have many  fellow members here who will be glad to lend an ear, offer information, and provide support when you need it.

We are not professionals but peers just like you so if your topic requires a professional we may refer you to your Doctor.

We love to meet and greet new members so keep on posting with us as support is key to healing.

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pvct
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   Posted 6/15/2014 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Kitt for your warm welcome. This is a nice place to be.
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