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pvct
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   Posted 6/14/2014 11:34 PM (GMT -6)   
hello,

I am new to this forum, and I want to share my own experience briefly on my ongoing pvcs and what is a GERD/Hiatal Hernia disorder. I have been getting these for almost three months now mostly on, sometimes off, and I have noticed that on some of the skips, they seem to be more intense and even hurt as in a hard thump. I do also get belching at times when eating anything later in the evening. I am on 25 mg lopressor twice a day, and 10 mg of altace, also, I take a PPI (achiphex) for the GERD. It has been a long bout this time. usually, when these flair up, the episode has lasted no longer than 7 weeks. this episode is lasting longer. i have had all the tests done, including an EP study which was negative. i am going to the GI on Monday. It is nice to belong to this forum where I can share my own experiences with arrythmias. best wishes

JungRulz
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   Posted 6/15/2014 3:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi PVCT.

Here's a thread here where I touched on the topic of Gastro-Intestinal involvement for some in causing ectopics.

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=42&m=3076517

For others here (since I'm sure you've visited this link by now) is an interesting article on the issue.

bjcardio.co.uk/2009/07/cardiac-manifestations-and-sequelae-of-gastrointestinal-disorders/

I'm frustrated because my PVCs are so profound upon eating, I feel like something's trying to get out of my chest, some of the PVCs are quite strong. If they're so strong and so frequent then, it seems to me that perhaps, in this bout of them, the same mechanism is responsible for the increased PVCs even in the absence of food. But two cardiologists, two E.P.s, and a family doctor refuse to correlate it to the GI Tract. Yet in the article linked above, the doctors clearly outline how to differentiate it and suggest what to do. I'm going to request my family doctor approve an upper GI as a start. The article linked above mentions GERD, Hiatial Hernias, and the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system's influence on rhythm disturbances based on GI Tract issues.

Good luck, hope you make some progress.

pvct
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   Posted 6/15/2014 6:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi JungRulz,

Thanks for responding to my post. Your reply is well taken and it gives me encouragement. I will be seeing my GI tomorrow, so I will see what he/she will say. as I posted, and as you mentioned , some of these ectopics have a more pronounced or hard THUMP. Anyway, as always, I appreciate your insightful and encouraging replies. These ectopics were really annoying during the night.

Best To You

pvct
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   Posted 6/15/2014 6:24 AM (GMT -6)   
thanks again for including the thread and the link JR.
very interesting.
pvct

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   Posted 6/15/2014 10:14 AM (GMT -6)   
pcvct,
 
Good Morning and welcome to HealingWell.  Great response from JR; he is one of our wisest members in this forum - I thank him, along with you, for yet another great response.
 
I used to be the moderator for GERD/Heartburn for years but moderating 4 forums became to much so I am down to 2 forums.
 
I chose to keep this one as the topic is close to my heart (yes, pun intended) :-)
 
I am going to link you to a thread from the GERD Forum as your concerns come up frequently in the GERD Forum, the Anxiety/Panic Forum and right here in this forum.
 
 
Regarding your concerns about a hiatal hernia - to the best of my knowledge,
a hiatal hernia and GERD can cause chest pain and palpitations. A large hiatal hernia can cause shortness of breath by crowding your chest cavity and limiting expansion of your lungs.
 
You mentioned you belch a lot.  I am going to post a link to an article re your Vagus Nerve and how it interacts with your stomach.
 
"Vagus nerve irritation may be caused by  the excess gas in your stomach. As your stomach expands this sensitive nerve will come under pressure, sending haywire signals to your brain and heart."
 
Do read this link:
 
 
I hope this helps you in some small way.
 
Kindly,
Kitt

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JungRulz
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   Posted 6/15/2014 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kitt, hope all is well at home. You and your hubby are in my thoughts and prayers.

PCVT,

I stumbled on this link at Wiki. I usually am circumspect about health articles there, but this one segued in to some of the things we're discussing in regard to non-heart causes of palpitations. My only caution is that the article states that if you have more than 6 per minute (say of PVCs), that "it can indicate a problem". By this, they are addressing people who have not been seen by a doctor and tested. If you've been cleared by a doctor, you can have far more than 6 per minute and still have a benign condition, and if I persistently had any per minute I'd see my doctor for an evaluation. The odd thing is many, if not most, people do not feel their palpitations, so even if they had more than 6 they'd be unaware.

My rule of thumb: if you've experiencing palpitations for the first time, see your doctor for a consultation. If you typically experience them, but they markedly worsen, see your doctor. If they are accompanied by other symptoms, such as pain, difficulty breathing, unexpected sweating, etc, visit the Emergency Room.

Now to the Wiki Link:

/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palpitation

They even covered this:

"Gastrointestinal distress such as bloating or indigestion, along with muscular imbalances and poor posture, can also irritate the vagus nerve causing palpitations)"

I have noted a change in belching that is concomitant with my increased PVC frequency (and according to my rule of thumb, I have been seen by 2 cardiologists, 2 E.P.s, and my family doctor), I now have to lean forward to belch. Pursuant to this, I'm going to push for an upper GI.

Hope you enjoy the info at the link, I think it was fairly well organized.

pvct
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   Posted 6/15/2014 3:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank You Kitt

for the warm welcome and for the informative response. And yes, JR gave me some real food for thought. i see the GI tomorrow
and a followup with my Cardiologist. I never imagined for years that there were so many people out there with these nagging, disruptive arrythmias. It is a pleasure to meet people who are well informed, kind and make such an effort to respond to concerned and worried people. i feel like I have a family far and wide who are caring and intellegent and most of are willing to share there own life experiences and hopes with these conditions. This is truly a great site to belong to. I wish I had discovered it ages ago.
please forgive my typing, I am just getting used to typing on an Ipad. It is great to have these devices when mobile like today and yesterday. well, I will get busy trying to get the most out of this site. Once again, thanks Kitt and thanks JungRulz.
pvct

stkitt
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   Posted 6/16/2014 7:35 AM (GMT -6)   
pvct,
 
You are family here now and though this is not our busiest forum it has a wealth of information from many who understand heart disease.
 
I will share with you - my husband was hospitalized on March 20,2014 with a dx of heart failure and many multifocal PVCS.  He was started on meds for the heart failure along with a very strict low sodium diet.
 
His Holter monitor (24 hours) = greater than 1/3 of his heart beats in the 24 hour period were Ventricular beats.  His stress test was OK.  Next is a visit with a Cardiac Electrophysiologist in July for a consult.  I believe Jung mentioned that up to 20,000 PVCS is considered the "worry point" when looking at doing intervention for PVCS.  My husband's report indicated he was having greater than 30,000 PVCS in the 24 hour period.
 
It concerns me that his event was in March and we could not get an appointment with the EP physician until July.
 
My hubby is doing fine and once he started to feel stronger he was told by his cardiologist to continue doing whatever activity he was  use to. Hubby is a very active 67 year old.
 
My hubby also has Crohn's Disease - however, that is not going to be your dx.
Do let us know what your GI Dr. has to say today.
 
Blessings and know we are right here for you.
 
Kitt 
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Miss spice bomb
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   Posted 6/16/2014 2:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello!
I also suffer from pvc's! I get 1-2 per minute,all day every day and on certain occasions I can go into pvc's every other heartbeat for hours!
This is truly uncomfortable!
I've spent hours and hours searching for answers to why I have these things,but never find any solutions!
Ive had all the tests! Everything is fine!
I've cut out all types of food and drink, tried to control my stress levels!
But mine persist!
They are like my little friends now!
I cant get rid of them so ive just accepted they are part of me now!
Im also nearly 30 weeks pregnant and i think i get more of a break from them at the moment than when I wasn't pregnant! I dont get it!
Let us know how the appointment goes!!
Take care fellow pvc friend! :-D

pvct
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   Posted 6/16/2014 10:53 PM (GMT -6)   
hello Kitt,

i am very sorry to hear about your husband and hope that the EP can figure something out. thanks so much for the kind response, i briefly mentioned to JR that my trip uptown today with my wife, who is also having thyroid problems, went all day. traffic around here is insane. my GI basically said that GI and heart PVCs could be related, but she wanted to stay on GI topic, so I ended up with a date with an upper GI and an Endoscopy soon as they can schedule me for one. thanks again for your kind words, and My prayers are with you and husband.
pvct

pvct
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   Posted 6/16/2014 10:59 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks Miss Spice Bomb,

I can surely relate. As I have said to JungRulz and Kitt, these arrythmias have bothered me for many years now, although, today, they were not as bad. I am going to get my thoughts together and post an update on my GI appointment.
many thanks for your kind words. My list of Meds seems to grow with my age. best to you
pvct

pvct
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   Posted 6/17/2014 4:44 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks JungRulz

the Wiki Link on Palpitations was excellent, and a lot of what I needed to hear.
pvct

pvct
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   Posted 6/17/2014 4:51 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks Kitt

for the link on the Vagus Nerve. I saved it, more good Food for Thought. Best to you and yours
pvct
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