Constant PVCs and sudden death

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Jack888
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   Posted 10/15/2014 11:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I just found out I have constant PVCs. I have had 5 ablations for A Fib, which was finally cured. Now this. I see a brilliant Cardiologist who recommended a holter, an echo, a stress test and another EKG. He also is concerned that constant PVCs can eventually have an effect on my heart. I also said I might think about another ablation to cure the PVCs. Any thoughts. I sincerely appreciate what everyone is going through and I also would appreciate any ideas you might have. Be well.

Jack888
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   Posted 10/15/2014 11:41 PM (GMT -6)   
One more quick question. Someone mentioned that CoQ10 had really helped with PVCs. Has anyone else had this experience and if so how many mgs of CoQ10 were/are you taking. Be well.

JungRulz
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   Posted 10/18/2014 9:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi. Welcome to HealingWell.

Constant PVCs is a relative description. Can you be more specific?

Please understand that no doctors offer medical advice here, but those of us that have experienced heart issues relevant to the poster are usually most happy to share our experiences with others.

I have frequent PVCs, I believe this is the medical term applied to them in my case. Mine tend to come and go, and as I age, seem to be more frequent. I have been experiencing these ectopics, in cycles, for over 40 years. I hate them, every time I experience a new outbreak, I see my doctor.

Though ectopics, including PVCs, PACs, and other forms are common, anyone experiencing more than a few here and there for the first time should be evaluated by a doctor. Even though I've experienced them for over 40 years, if I'm free of them for months, and they recur, I seek medical advice based on my perceived severity. This last time they grew worse on exertion, which is usually not a good thing, though not necessarily ominous, it warrants investigation. So too for having dizziness, feeling faint, pain, and shortness of breath.

Within the last 12 months, I had a Stress Echo in December 2013, tons of PVCs before and after, none during. In April 2014 awoke with insanely persistent ectopics that grew worse on exertion, visited the E.R. twice in a months span, the first on the day when they first recurred. I was having frequent PVCs and for every 3 PVCs, had one PAC. My cardiologist was satisfied with my previous test results and the results from the E.R., but the E.R. doctor had suggested a Holter and when I asked my cardiologist, he ordered one. I had 6000 PVCs/24 hours. Being I wasn't having them while asleep, in 18 hours that averages to 5.5 PVCs a minute.

I started to see an Electrophysiologist, and a HealingWell member here suggested the Beta Blocker Acebutolol, which my Electrophysiologist prescribed. It's one of a few Beta Blockers that has added properties to slightly speed-up the heart rate to counter the Beta Blocker from slowing it down, so that more Beta Blockade can occur without unduly slowing down the heart rate. Nevertheless, it was the first time I experienced PVCs, often in quadrigeminy, which was frequent at that time, without feeling them. When you don't feel them, and have no other symptoms, you worry less.

My next Holter showed 3900 PVCs. My Electrophysiologist that advocated, for my sanity sake, that I have an ablation or be admitted to the hospital for two days so that they could find the right antiarrhythmic drug to suppress them. I started to drink one Ensure a day, one reduced calorie Carnation Instant Breakfast, and eat one banana a day and drink one bottle of vitamin water, just the 100% of this or that, no super potency stuff. Within a week, my PVC count fell from 3900 to a few dozen, and since then has fallen further. Since some of the PVCs occurred under exertion, and I pestered my cardiologist enough, he ordered a stress test. I experienced 0 PVCs before, during, and after the test.

On September 17th, they came back with a vengeance, but they occurred with symptoms of a respiratory infection that has only recently began to subside. The ectopics were frequent, I saw my family doctor, but they went away as the infection took hold.

It's a tough call, ablations for non life threatening ectopics, or even antiarrhythmic drugs. As much as we want relief, there are hazards to either treatments. I'll look back to see if you posted how many you're having.

pvct
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   Posted 10/19/2014 9:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Wonderful post, JungRulz.

Jack888
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   Posted 10/19/2014 10:22 PM (GMT -6)   
JungRuiz: Thank you for your response and for welcoming me to the forum. I have NOT had the holter yet but I figured out that my heart beats about 84,000 times per day and I am sure that I will have at least 20,000+ PVCs. Below is a quote from a site I have found and like:

http://www.drjohnm.org/2013/06/benign-pvcs-a-heart-rhythm-doctors-approach/

His quote is below.

"Patients with more than 20,000 PVCs per day are at risk for developing cardiomyopathy (weak heart). These patients should be referred to an electrophysiologist."

I will follow the advise of my cardiologist and I think he will recommend I see an EP if the holter comes out like I think it will.

JungRuiz___Thank you for your response, your information and you welcome. Be well and know that I am sending you positive thoughts.

Jack888
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   Posted 10/19/2014 10:24 PM (GMT -6)   
PVCT:::::Thank you also!!

Jack888
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   Posted 10/19/2014 10:35 PM (GMT -6)   
JungRuiz::::My bad. I forgot to tell you about recommending Acebutolol. Thank you so much!!

JungRulz
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   Posted 10/22/2014 5:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the compliments, for PVCT as well.

The 20,000 has to be over a period of time before it is an issue (from what I've read). Nevertheless, 6000 were crazy for me, 3 times that many must be maddening.

I had a coworker that, during his employment where I work, had a virus that attacked his heart, put him into a bad rhythm that he was hospitalized over. They were going to electrically cardiovert him, but succeeded with drugs. Eventually his doctor cleared him to return to work, and the facility doctor did the same.

I was talking to him one day and I asked if I could take his pulse. OMG, it was all over the place, fast, slow, PVCs, scarry stuff. Yet it functioned well enough for him to work, he retired, and that was years ago, he's alive and well to this day.

Perfect rhythms aren't necessary to life, though we wish it would be so, and anyone experiencing rhythm issues should see their doctor. Please let us know how things progress. Some people have issues with ablation and end up in the forums, but as Kitt said, so many are successful and we tend not to hear back from them.

Best of health to you.

pvct
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   Posted 10/24/2014 9:07 AM (GMT -6)   
hi ,

yes, PVCs are a terrible disruptive feeling. like JungRulz posted, thousands of them a day can feel like hell, and make you feel bad.
I have had them for 40 years. I was recently tested, because in addition to PVCs I also have compensated CAD of the RCA.
These PVCs are a real DRAG, but don't let them get you down.
Sometimes, they just GO AWAY. Mine go away, come back, go away, come back...... don't worry. :-)

pvct
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   Posted 10/24/2014 9:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi again, forgot to mention, that right now, my wife is also going through a horrendous time with her PVCs. She does not do well with them either. Everytime I hear hear cough a certain way, I know she is trying to 'correct' a disruption. God, these things are annoying.
but hang tough.

popsv
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   Posted 10/24/2014 2:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I have them al the time and my docs told me not to worry about them he has them also??I just find them very disturbing

popsv
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   Posted 10/24/2014 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I also get AF time to time (irregular heart beat) been cardioverted over the years more then 50 times 3 days ago I was again cardioverted and I never had so much pain in my life I never felt that with the other I had I don't think they gave me enough sedation I also had a ablation 6 years ago I was free from AF for 6 years now it has come back again I could write a book during that time I was for about 5 weeks getting pains so bad felt like heart attacks I asked if that could have anything to do with the ablation they said no. finely after I stopped taking colestrhol statin drugs my pains left go figure. I am meeting with a doc soon to see about another ablation and Im truthfully a little scared as you are partly sedated only and I could feel the burning I paniced as I was not told I figured I was not given enough sadation. if anyone wants to talk to me email me pvande5607@rogers.com il be glad to answer any questions you have.
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