So Tired of PVCs =(

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CSA08
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   Posted 2/27/2015 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I put this in the anxiety thread before, but I thought I should add a similar thread here.

I've had heart palpitations of various sorts for at least a decade now, possibly longer with me just not realizing what they were. The first time I discovered what was happening was about 2005-2006 when I'd wake up with my heart beating very fast, and one morning the dreaded skipped heartbeat got thrown into the mix. My family calmed me down and told us it was actually something that ran in our family, and not to worry about it.

I do suffer from anxiety disorder, so there was no "don't worry about it." They have gone and come from time-to-time since.

Lately I've started putting a lot of focus on them appearing after I've eaten. Again, I don't know why on Earth I picked now to focus on them. I know for a fact I've had them after eating for a decade. I remember I used to eat frozen pizzas. After two slices, I'd be full and for the next 2-3 hours my heart would beat into the 90s and once in a while I'd get a skipped beat or two.

Now, I put way too much thought into it every blasted time it happens after I eat.

I have them when I am relaxed. I have them when I'm stressed. I have them when I am worried. I have them when I am full. I have them when I'm hungry. I have them at night. I have them in the morning.

It honestly doesn't seem like there is any legitimate rhyme or reason to them, and I am so fed up and frustrated.

Earlier this year I brought them up to my doctor, and she didn't seem concerned at all. She is treating me for high blood pressure and anxiety so she has me keeping tabs on my BP, she does blood tests a few times per year, and she always listens to my heart in the exam room.

She wasn't concerned that I told her I felt skipped heart beats.

This morning (the original day I wrote this post a few months ago), I ate a couple sausage biscuits, a chocolate bar, and had some caffeine free Pepsi. (I even cut out caffeine and the blasted things still keep happening.)

about 30 minutes later, I started experiencing "air burps" as I like to call them. They are not real burps, but the feeling of compressed air out of the chest if that makes sense. Along with that feeling, I had a brief period of palpitations.

My heart rate ran up and I felt a few mild skipped beats. A bit later, I stood up to turn on the radio and I stretched while standing. My heart rate went up to about 100 for a few seconds and I felt a skipped beat.

I somehow managed to calm myself down and they went back to 90 or below. I can tell you even with the elevated heartrate and the skipped beat, I never felt faint or light headed, I never felt like I would pass out, I never had any pain, or anything of that sort.

Another thing I noticed is that during Thanksgiving my sister in law, who is a nurse, noted that palpitations weren't life threatening and for a few weeks, I noticed that mine went away. I don't know if it's because I ate more home made food during the holidays and less processed food or because I relaxed about it.

I can tell you that my average blood pressure is about 130/80 and my average resting heart rate is between 70-80.

I can also tell you these are driving me up a wall. Every time I feel my heart skip a beat, especially if it's out of nowhere, I feel emotionally dreadful and start worrying about dying. Everything I know about palpitations go out the window and I just focus on that one skipped beat or that series of mild skipped beats if my heart should be faster than normal.

So can someone help me here before I go crazy?

CSA08
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   Posted 2/27/2015 3:09 PM (GMT -6)   
To add some updated information to the mix, all day today I've had some mild skipped beats. I had about 5-7 of them between 8am and 3pm.

The moment I started to write this post, I had a flutter in my chest. Felt like two or three skips back-to-back-to-back. I get those at isolated times, and they always scare me to no end because I am afraid it means I am about to die (though even when I had it happen a moment ago, I didn't have any adverse problems happen aside from the fear that went with it.)

Over the weekend I ate a late night snack of a couple slices of pizza and a caff. free soft drink. An hour later I had two hours of skipped beats with about 1 happening every 5-10 minutes.

I relaxed before bed and didn't have another one. Yesterday I was almost skipped beat free. There's many days that I only have one or two and they are minor.

Then some days I have tons of them.

I have no clue what brought on the mini-run of them a few moments ago but now I'm sitting here thinking "yep, going to die..."

Regina From Kentucky
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   Posted 2/28/2015 12:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I have Pvcs and packs and know how annoying they can be. I just keep telling myself my heart is fine and try to breath in and out slowly.

If you are having skips beat and they are really bothering you, then you need to ask your doctor to at least do a EKG or 24 hour heart monitor. That way you could have peace of mind that you are having pvcs.

I do know stress and anxiety makes it worse. So try not to think about it.

I hope this helps. I am not a doctor just someone who has dealt with Pvcs for years.

neil2524
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   Posted 2/28/2015 1:05 PM (GMT -6)   
hiya, try not to worry about them ,easy i know as there pests, i can have thousands per day so i am fully aware what a pest they can be, chin up and try to chill
had heart valve surgery 2008. replaced with a nice porky pig one

CSA08
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   Posted 3/2/2015 12:50 PM (GMT -6)   
How many of them a day do you feel? I've never asked that, but I am curious how many being felt would be considered normal.

JungRulz
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   Posted 3/2/2015 6:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, some of my history with PVCs, a little advice, and some links.

I'm 55+, and have had intermittent rhythm issues since I was in my teens. They come and go, and as I age, they come more often and go less often. I get PVCs, PACs, have had PSVT, and infrequently couplets and short salvos.

1. Have you seen a doctor and discussed your concerns with him/her? If you've been cleared medically, realize that PVCs and PACs are a common occurrence in people. The hard to believe point is that while many people have them, most of the people that have them can't feel them. Rather than like many of us that do feel them, many people are only aware of feeling light headed, or short of breath (if they would have too many), and only then, after going to the doctor, do they find out. My wife worked for a cardiologist, they had a patient one day with PVCs so bad she couldn't take his pulse. After doing the examination, the doctor took the patient's pulse and asked if he ever gets "skipped beats". He replied "no". The doctor never even made him aware that he was getting them, he knew they were harmless in his case and didn't want to alarm him.

2. Anyone getting PVCs or similar for the first time should see a doctor. Same for those of us that get them frequently but notice them getting worse. They're usually harmless, but see a doctor to be sure.

3. My previous bout of rhythm issues started last Easter and lasted for many months, I suspect I over did the chocolate. The day after Easter I was having tons of them, went to the hospital, and for each 3 PVCs was getting 1 PAC. I was sent home with a diagnosis of frequent PVCs. Went to my cardiologist, wore a Holter for 24 hours, and I had 6000 PVCs in 24 hours. That's about 5 per minute 24 hours a day. Since I didn't get them at night, that averaged to more than 5 per minute while awake. Months later showed 3900 PVCs/24 hours. I was in very frequent bigeminy as well. Change in medicine, change in eating habits, and months later, they finally subsided. 20,000 per day, if no electrical, vascular, valve, or structural problems exist with the heart would be considered the maximum, and this would have to go on day after day for weeks before it would begin to contribute to weakening of the heart.

4. I have PVCs made worse or brought on by swallowing and intestinal activity, sometimes. The Vagus Nerve is connected to your heart and digestive system. For the heart, its purpose is to slow it down after being scared or angry. For the intestines, its purpose is to speed-up digestion. When you're scared, you're heart races and digestion slows, when you relax, your heart slows and digestion increases.

5. Avoid stimulants like coffee and chocolate (Caffeine and in the chocolate, caffeine and there are other things as well), smoking (Nicotine), diet or cold medication that speeds up your heart, illegal drugs, etc. Get PLENTY of sleep and try to avoid stress. Eat smaller meals, eat less fat and less sugar. Don't overeat.

An Electrophysiologist's (Electrician for the heart) suggestions on PVCs, written for people like us.

www.drjohnm.org/2013/06/benign-pvcs-a-heart-rhythm-doctors-approach/

This is a blog of sorts for people with PVCs.

www.lifeoffbeat.com/

Cardiac manifestations and sequelae of gastrointestinal disorders (technical stuff, but shows the possible connection to stomach issues and PVCs etc.

bjcardio.co.uk/2009/07/cardiac-manifestations-and-sequelae-of-gastrointestinal-disorders/

Hope this material and these links are of some help to you.

neil2524
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   Posted 3/3/2015 5:53 AM (GMT -6)   
good post jung,
had heart valve surgery 2008. replaced with a nice porky pig one

CSA08
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   Posted 3/3/2015 9:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I brought them up to my doctor in July, but she didn't seem concerned at all. She's always done the routine stuff, she gives me blood tests every 6 months, and she has me keeping track of my blood pressure. So she doesn't seem to be concerned by anything she's seeing or hearing. Nothing I have going on suggests any sign of heart disease.

In the anxiety section of the board, several did suggest that these are related in some form or fashion to my digestive system much along the lines that you mentioned. And I do notice they increase in frequency after a big meal.

CSA08
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   Posted 4/5/2015 4:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Had a good week for the most part. Only a handful of PVCs that I felt. I stayed calm after all of them until Sunday afternoon (a few minutes ago.) I fell asleep on the couch and when I woke up, I felt what I thought were PVCs. I had a couple of them, so I checked my pulse.

Now, in my chest it felt like every 5th or 6th beat for a few minutes was a PVC. I got that typical feeling I get with them. However, while checking my pulse, the PVCs I actually felt (a noticeable skip to the heart beat) were only a few.

I would feel the sensation in my chest on some, but while checking my pulse I did not feel any skip for some of them. Others I did feel the skip.

None of them have been the "thump" variety that I usually get, either. I haven't felt anything like that in several weeks in fact. The PVCs I've gotten recently have been more subdued and gentle to the point that I question whether I was getting them. I assumed it was because I was relaxing and calming down about it.

After a few minutes, I checked my blood pressure and it was fine. It was showing me as having about 125/85 but my heart rate was elevated to about 95.

While I typed this, I have felt a few more sensations but, again, I have no clue if they were actual PVCs or if it was like earlier where I felt the sensation but the pulse did not match to it.

First time I've had a spell like this in a long while, and first time that I can recall one in which I felt either legit or imagined (or both) PVCs coming so soon on top of one another (one every 5-6 beats.)

So, it can be said that I am a bit uptight now which probably means I will have more.

kazbern
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   Posted 4/14/2015 3:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Jung, thank you for that great response. I haven't checked the links yet, but I will.

I normally post over on the Crohn's forum or the UC forum, but my PVCs & PACs have gotten worse and they are incredibly annoying, even uncomfortable now.

CSA08, I've been getting these for years, and when they first appeared in a cluster of weeks 4 years ago my regular doc hooked me up with a holter moniter, stress test and EKG. All was fine. They made me terribly anxious then, and after reading about them here and elsewhere I got to a point where I knew they were benign and I stopped worrying about them.

This year they have gotten noticably worse (as in, more frequent, more uncomfortable rather than surprising). I am not a high risk cardiac patient (I am 52, female, normal weight, waist measurement < 30, moderately active). My dad has rhythm problems and I assume that I am heading in that direction (he had a-fib and takes medication). My regular doc again did a holter and an EKG, and indeed I have more PVCs now and PACs are added to the list. I was supposed to have a stress test and echo last week but I had to cancel it because I have to change doctors. ARGH.

Ultimately I will probably ask for some meds to suppress the weird beats. They are just too distracting.
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2_dec_PVCS
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   Posted 4/23/2015 2:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Dear friends, I am male 41 y/o,

I have PVCs for more than 2 decades now, numerous EKGs, echo and stress tests (all normal except for PVCs), 2 ablation attempts (no success).
I would like to share my experience from past couple of weeks with you. I live very healthy, eating well, moderate exercise, sleep 7 hours at least, etc.
I was PVC free for two whole weeks, without any specific reason, I did everything same like before, I live in western Norway, so weather is not changing much here, so I would exclude metheoropatic reasons. No need to say how happy I was, but for the last couple of days they are slowly coming back, and I do not know if this is the case with you, but every now and then when they are coming back, the feeling is a little bit different, so that I think, maybe now something else, more dangerous is happening. Anyhow, as I said I had countless tests over these 20+ years and the results were always the same - benign PVCs.

Good luck to you all, this forum is very good.

JungRulz
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   Posted 4/23/2015 3:38 AM (GMT -6)   
The Vagus Nerve, the Parasympathetic and Sympathetic Nervous Systems, and "some" associated arrhythmias possible.

bjcardio.co.uk/2009/07/cardiac-manifestations-and-sequelae-of-gastrointestinal-disorders/

Very interesting article. Never self diagnose, get proper tests, consult a doctor, but consider the above if you've been told your rhythm issue is benign.

Greycatz
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   Posted 4/26/2015 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi there, I suffered from PVC's for years, sounds like my situation was identical to yours. A random Dr at a walk in clinic suggested that my Vargas nerve was irritated due to acid reflux. This nerve controls your heartbeat. I took tecta for a few months to treat the acid issue in my belly. It was like a miracle for me. Once I treated my acid reflux, the PVC's stopped. Sounds so simple, but I'm telling you, research it. This may help you, I so hope it does. :)

CSA08
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   Posted 11/19/2015 5:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Finally managed to make it back here. Got a new PC several months ago and took forever to transfer all my bookmarks and stuff.

Update: still having skipped beats, and still getting uptight about them. Seems to still happen in a similar way: I can go weeks with only one or two and handle them well, but then get one or two extra in a day and it's the same old story.

I'll have to look back through the threads to get re acclimated to everything and everyone here and remember what all was last said and all that. Just glad I managed to get back on!

Atm86
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   Posted 3/4/2016 8:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I started with these skipped beats about 1992. Thinking back I had an anxiety attack first, no knowing that I was, and then a skipped beat. After several I went to the hospital and so on. Every test known to man and it was benign. It didn't exactly go away but for several years I knew when I was getting stressed and to readjust myself. But a few years ago it has come back and now here I am battling these things. Here's the truth to all this. Just about everyone at some point has pvcs or pacs and many never notice them. But for us who focused on them that feeling never leaves our mind. I'll bet most of us are aware of ever single heart beat. And of course the more anxious we get about them the more we have. Catch 22.

I recall having some when I was around 20 but I never paid it any attention. Amazing how our mind knows what to use against us when stress or anxiety comes in.

I am a 51 year old male. Didn't add that. Sorry
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