GERD and heart palpitations?n or just my anxiety?

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Melissuh
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   Posted 7/4/2015 9:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I just got diagnosed with GERD yesterday, after visiting a local Urgent Care.
I've got a bubbly/jumpy/shaky feeling in my chest, mostly center, into my throat and the right side.
I've also got anxiety, and the exact same day this all started, I felt as though my medicine hadn't been working as well as it been, mind you I've only been on it for 2 weeks, and I kno wit takes 8 weeks to actually be in your system completely.

The feelings feel like heart palpitations to me, something I get pretty often ( PVCs ) but more lighter, its so hard to explain. my heart is what started my anxiety, so im absolutely terrified now.

I've had an Echocardiogram, and a 24 hour holter monitor done, April 21st. both came back ok, structurally normal heart,
i'm a 24 yr old female, 309lbs ( I know I know ) non-smoker, drinker, no drugs, pre-diabetic.

I know my post isn't as urgent as others, etc.
i'm just curious if anyone knows if GERD can cause anything to do with the heart? or if I just need to start my new med, and chill out and see what it does.

it's been 5 days since this all started.

Thank you for reading this far!

theHTreturns...
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   Posted 7/4/2015 9:18 PM (GMT -6)   
melissuh. new med and chill out!! some other conditions can mimic what we think are heart related. you have been given the tick of approval. as my fiance would say (with your heart) your all tickity boo!!! so, get that new med into ya, keep up with your coping skills. take care. keep moving and grooving. i have been walking longer distances. dropped 5 kilos. walking is good.
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Melissuh
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   Posted 7/5/2015 10:42 AM (GMT -6)   
I love walking, take my daughters with me, makes it so much nicer than being alone. its day two of the med, and it doesn't seem to be working, but im sure like all other meds, it takes a while. and that's a good saying! ive never heard that before!
Heart Palpitations, Mitral Valve Regurgitation, Anxiety, Costochondritis, Panic Attacks, PCOS, & Pre-Diabetic.

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theHTreturns...
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   Posted 7/6/2015 6:22 PM (GMT -6)   
good stuff. give the med time.
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spiritspinner
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   Posted 7/6/2015 10:21 PM (GMT -6)   
My anxiety started with my GERD diagnosis as well...almost 7 months ago. From what I gather from reading other people's experiences and what I have gone through myself; I can say with confidence you are not alone.

I've had a heart holter on me for 4 days; I also had one on me several times while being monitored at the hospital. I have had many EKGs and other tests. The thing with GERD is that - it makes it feel like the heart. And the thing with anxiety is that no matter how many tests you have to tell you that your heart is fine, your mind will still go there. I understand. It's scary sometimes.

I'm still figuring out my diet and which pills work for me -- I'm 7 months in. Just be patient with your body. Take your medications, make some positive diet changes, you will see relief. And know you are in the right place with a lot of people with similar experiences to support you!

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   Posted 7/7/2015 2:36 AM (GMT -6)   
hi spiritspinner. thx for sharing that valuable info. and g'day as well. keep posting and keep well.
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Melissuh
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   Posted 7/7/2015 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Spiritspinner,
Thank you! I'm happy to know I'm not alone!! Mine is like a shaky/rattling/weird bubbly feeling that sometimes comes from my stomach, I can feel it in my back, and in my chest. It gets shaky feeling like I said. It started like the day after I got over a 5 day stretch of bad heartburn 24/7. Sometimes I think it's gas causing the feeling of palpitations, then others I think it's legitimate palpitations. Which is what caused my anxiety and panic attacks!
Always a vicious cycle...
Heart Palpitations, Mitral Valve Regurgitation, Anxiety, Costochondritis, Panic Attacks, PCOS, & Pre-Diabetic.

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spiritspinner
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   Posted 7/7/2015 7:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree -- it's a vicious cycle.

When I was hooked up to the heart holter for 4 days, I was to document every time I felt a "symptom" with the time and what it felt like. During that time I went to school, went to work, did groceries, spent time home, walked the dog -- my usual stuff. Over the 4 days, I filled up a double sided page of symptoms. Test results came back NORMAL with the comments that I must be a very anxious person because every time I reported something, tests were good....

You would think that would be enough to calm my mind; but I still battle the thoughts.

I have ended up in the ER since due to panic attacks and I was having heart palpitations. I do believe they are sometimes triggered by the acid reflux and then my anxiety makes them worse.

I've also been to the ER since with pains in my chest and upper back as well...to find out that it was my acid reflux and the pain was coming from the esophagus.

They recently changed my medication for my GERD, so I am hoping to get some relief from that. I am also now just starting anti-anxiety medication..so we will see how it goes.

Unfortunately, the best diet with the fewest symptoms is rather bland; but I had things under control until a few weeks ago when I decided to go for breakfast for the first time since December. Sigh.

Keep on sharing. We're all here to help eachother. I know it's scary. I am speaking from experience. But it's going to be okay.

savvylee17
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   Posted 7/12/2015 6:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Melissuh,

GERD can definitely cause chest pain; I was diagnosed with GERD in 2009. I usually have upper abdominal pain and sternum pain from my GERD, but many people experience heartburn and chest pain. Also, what medication did they start you on? I took Prilosec and it never worked for me, but then I took Nexium for 2 years and it worked very well. If your symptoms don't improve in a few weeks or one month, I would consider switching your medication (as directed by your doctor, of course). Also, maybe you should make an appointment with a gastroenterologist to discuss your concerns.

I went through a thorough cardiac workup after I was waking up out of sleep with a racing heartbeat. I wore an event monitor for 30 days and had an echo performed. Also, I've had many ECG's done. The only abnormalities that were found were a brief episode of SVT and numerous PACs. I definitely know how scary and uncomfortable palpitations can be! PACs are annoying and very uncomfortable...it's like a fluttery, skipping feeling in my chest. Of course, a racing heartbeat can be scary too. Just remember that if your heart is structurally and electrically normal, the symptoms are most likely due to other causes (such as your GERD). Anxiety can cause chest pain and palpitations. GERD and costochondritis can cause chest pain. Many other things can cause both, such as hyperthyroidism/hypothyroidism, low magenesium, low potassium, and anemia to name a few. If symptoms persist, have blood work done that checks for these things. Otherwise, I hope you feel better soon!

Melissuh
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   Posted 7/13/2015 8:15 AM (GMT -6)   
thank you all!

I haven't been on here do to being okay for once in months! until last night!! ugh..

and yes, my echo came back that my heart is structurally normal besides my mitral valve prolapse. and when I get anxiety its bad, takes only minutes to go from slightly anxious to full blown panic attack. ):
all 10 EKGS ive had were normal, my dr wasn't concerned about my holter monitor results what so ever.

so I guess i'll have to live with them. as annoying and unnerving as there are.

theHTreturns...
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   Posted 7/13/2015 9:41 AM (GMT -6)   
at least you know you are okay with ya ticker. remember your coping skills. here for ya.
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rayswift
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   Posted Today 7:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello all, Melissa I am so happy to have read your post. I have been experiencing the same symptoms but no one understands. If feels like my heart is racing and bubbling but when I take my pulse it is fine. All the symptoms you have I have. The anxiety makes it worse because I start giving the Gerd so much attention it makes me panic. I had so many ekgs and they were all fine until recently a cardiologist told me it wasn't perfect. He tells me it's not perfect then brushes it off with don't lose sleep over it, it's just a small hick up how am I supposed to take that? I question his practice since he had no other patients and I was able to make an appointment any day or time i chose. The lady who did my ekg let me do it while I was on my cell phone. Does that affect the ekg?

CACurrie
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   Posted 7/17/2015 2:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry to hear about your situation. I have been there and done that - No T-shirt - just a well of knowledge and experience.

WARNING!!! Do not confuse Indigestion with the signs of an on-coming Heart Attack!

Back in my 'sick puppy' days, I had indigestion really REALLY[/bi] Bad - like double-over-in-the-middle-of-the-store bad. Like crawl-up-the-sidewalk-to-get-back-into-the-house[i/] bad. It would start out as a sort of discomfort (sometimes an urge to eat - believe it or not!), then it would quickly progress to EXTREME gut and chest pains, bloating and even difficulty breathing. At first the doctors told me to drink a soda the minute I felt the pains coming on - and it worked! Apparently the gas that the soda produced was enough to 're-organize' what my stomach was having trouble digesting. I'd have a few hell-asious (sp?) burps and the pressure would disappear and all would be right with the world again. But as you could probably guess, eventually the 'soda trick' became less and less effective, and not too surprisingly, it started to seem like more and more foods/meals would set the whole situation into high gear.

My doctor put me on ant-acids - hardly made a dent - in that they worked for a while, but not long-term.

I decided to start handling this on my own mainly because I felt like this could get bad enough to kill me. (By this time a session of this would have me trying to pat my own back (or get someone else to do it - when there was someone else around), coughing over the sink to get what was in my gut OUT of my gut before the gas built up so hard that my heart would no longer be able to beat!!!

I learned a few things along the way, and can happily say that I have not suffered from this particular malady now, for over 20 years.

1) CHEW YOUR FOOD - I had just started wearing upper and lower dentures when my digestion problems started. Chewing with dentures takes more time and more effort - but it is definitely worth it.

2) Eat SLOWLY - For your body to be able to handle the digestion of incoming food,that food has to come into contact with sufficient amounts of acids, digestive juices, gut flora, etc. to break down the foods so that they can make their way along the digestive track. As the food is broken down by all these elements, gases are created which are usually expelled with our breath, through our digestive track or as a burp (on the top end) or as flatulence [a fart] on the bottom end. But either way, a lot of gasses ae produced during the digestive process. Piling food layers on top of developing gas can make getting rid of that gas a near-fight -for -your-life situation!

3) Drink only before or after your meal NOT during! Drinking outside fluids - anything that does not ASSIST the body's task of breaking down the foods you have eaten WILL HINDER the process. If what you are eating won't dissolve within 4 hours in a glass of warm water - at a temperature of about 100 degrees - it is NOT going to be helped in the gut to dissolve in your water-diluted digestive juices.

4) Walk after meals! The action of walking helps to 'stir' the contents of your gut, allowing the food to ferment evenly, and thoroughly. Think of it like the auger in the middle of your washing machine. the action is continuously rearranging the contents - allowing the gases that are formed to easily escape without causing discomfort. (When my attacks would start I would walk, wiggle and gyrate my way from room to room, in an effort to get the trapped gas to the top of the pile - and OUT!

5) Ant-Acids are NOT the solution. Stopping / Hindering the development of acids in your gut is not what one needs to do - if anything one might need to have more / stronger acid levels in your gut to breakdown the foods faster, and thus reduce the accumulation pf trapped gas, and the resulting pain and discomfort.

6) Food combining is very helpful here. Knowing what works together and what doesn't can make a HUGE difference in the composition of your gut juices/gases and flora. A little knowledge can go a LONG way. Learn it slow and make changes one at a time. Learning what worked for Me really helped!

7) I Always carried Charcoal Capsules. This really helped - especially in the beginning when I would forget to do things the right way - (for me and my schedule, chewing my food THOROUGHLY and Eating SLOWLY were two of the hardest things I had to learn to do). The good news - charcoal caps can absorb a LOT of gas and help to relieve the pressure of indigestion pretty well. 2 or 3 caps usually did the trick for me - Especially if I took them as soon as I realized I might need them, and started walking at the first signs of discomfort.

8) Learn to 'roll' your tummy! This probably goes along with #4 But I didn't want to leave it out.

9) DON'T PANIC! - I know how scary and unsettling these attacks can be, but panicking can deprive you of the opportunity to lessen the effects of what is happening a lot sooner. Keep a level head and remember that staying calm will help you to end this nightmare faster.

10) Eat Less Processed Foods - Processed foods deplete your body's assets.

Whole, Live foods replenish your body's assets.

There is a reason that junk food is called junk food - because it is JUNK! Unfortunately, there is more Junk in our food than most people realize. On the other hand - there is more GOOD in Real Live foods than most people realize. And what's more - we NEED that goodness to have good health, vitality, energy and a functioning mind/brain.

- A few tips:

- Eat at least one raw vegetable with every meal - and mix it up - don't do the same food all the time - experiment! Live a little! Heck!, LIVE a LOT!!! Working more fresh, raw vegetables into your diet will help increase your gut flora, and improve your digestion - just make sure you CHEW it completely - If you would rather, you can JUICE it!!!

- Eat at least one raw FRUIT before allowing yourself to indulge in that depleted, devoid, DEAD snack! Working more fresh, raw fruits into your diet will help increase your gut flora, and improve your digestion - just make sure you CHEW it completely - If you would rather, you can JUICE it!!!

- IF you HAVE to throw up to get things moving -
* - DON'T do it in the bathroom. Being hunched over the toilet makes your digestive tract harder to negotiate - keeping your upper body in as straight a line as possible will make things easier.
* - NEVER force yourself to throw up with your fingers or by gagging yourself. IF you really do need to evacuate the food matter that is laying heavy in your gut - lean over the sink and COUGH as hard and as long as you need to. Doing this in bouts between walking/gyrating and while being patted on the back (From the bottom to the top) will bring what needs to come out - OUT!
* - WARNING!!!! Do NOT confuse Indigestion with the symptoms of an on-coming Heart Attack. If in doubt - call 911. It is better to be wrong than dead!

In case you missed that, I'm going to say it again; It is better to be wrong than dead!.

Well, that is an overview of my personal experience. I am NOT suggesting that anyone follow my example, I am NOT giving medical advice (I am NOT a medical professional), but I have endured this hell(for almost 15 years!) and come out the other side a little more educated for the trip!

Talk to your health care professional, before proceeding with any new regiment or diet.
Hope this helps, and encourages you to better health. :-)

Mavica
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   Posted 8/4/2015 10:00 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm being treated for GERD, and have been for years now. about a decade ago I was convinced I had cardiac problems because of the symptoms, symptoms which were later shown to be the result of GERD. Once on Nexium the symptoms disappeared. But it was one Hell of a year worried about the heart. Years later, however, I did have a couple of stents put into my heart ... for issues unrelated to GERD. Best of luck.
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