Could this be angina?

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Date Joined Jul 2015
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   Posted 7/16/2015 10:44 PM (GMT -6)   
A few years back I was diagnosed with angina - the kind that you only get at rest/night time. I did herbs, changed/improved my diet, did a cardio cleanse, and came out the other side with PERFECT #s and feeling great. I have not had a problem during all this time - over 5 years.

A couple of weeks ago my upper back stated bothering me, my neck got sore, it felt like my heart was pounding, and I started getting muscle cramps like crazy - almost always when I laid down.

I immediately improved my nutritional profile, increased my zinc, potassium, magnesium, calcium and sodium. For a couple of days I felt great - no more muscle cramps, no upper back pain, no neck soreness or tingling. I slept through the entire night for three nights. But on night four - the back pain came back - not as severe, but it is there again. The neck pain is also back - not as 'sore' but more tingling. The leg and muscle cramps have not come back - thank God!

Here's the rub - all my numbers are still EXCELLENT -
BP 110 - 120 over 70 - 80
Cholesterol perfect (I can't find the paperwork for the numbers - but it was at the very bottom end of normal.
My oxygen level ranges from 98 - 99
My pulse ranges from 79 - 95
My urine profile was so good they made me take over TWICE!
My water intake is 64 - 100 ounces / day (More on days when I am HOT!

I am over weight - 5'6" 225 lbs at 61 years - I have been reducing my weight slowly over 6 months. I have gone from 258 - to 225.

I quit smoking 2 years ago (June 21 2013).
I do not drink alcohol nor do I do any drugs. No Prescriptions, no recreational drugs.
I do not have any signs of fluid retention - no swelling of the ankles, no varicose veins, no bloodshot eyes, no dizziness - unless I get up too fast.

All that and still I have this soreness in my upper back, sore neck, and sore left elbow, with the heavy heart rate (almost always when I am laying down).

The last time this happened the doctor prescribed nitro pills - but I didn't take them because my blood pressure was not high, and Nitro drops your BP like crazy - not a good thing!

Also they wanted to pump me full of Iodine to see if I had blood clots in my lungs. I KNOW I don't have blood clots in my lungs because I have done several lung programs and they are GREAT!

I sure don't want Iodine in my blood - every doctor I've ever had has commented on how GOOD my blood is, and every technician and nurse has been wowed by my excellent viscosity, color and flow.

I have worked long and hard at getting my body to a drug free state - 24 years ago I was on 27 different prescriptions, weighted 307 pounds, had had cancer - twice, suffered from severe migraines, was crippled by arthritis and was taking 90 units of insulin a day.

That is where the doctors took me - I got healthy on my own, and I sure as hell don't want to let them take me back to the state I used to be in. BUT I really can't seem to make sense of what is going on.

I guess what I really want is a sounding board - someone to help me think through all the possibilities, the pros and the cons, etc.

I hope to hear from y'all. In the meantime, I am going to keep tweaking my nutritional program - more juicing, no meat, more fruits & Vegetables, and reduce my gluten intake down from almost none to NONE!

The same thing for sugar, and processed foods - from almost none to NONE!

Am I missing something?

If you have any ideas or suggestions - PLEASE post a reply.
Thanks in advance!


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Date Joined Aug 2015
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   Posted 8/4/2015 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Just read your post. You are really educating yourself about your health and it is a good thing. Now, I'll give some medical advice about it and you can critic if you don't agree with something because I'm not a practicing doctor.

First thing to know about our heart. It is a dynamic organ which keeps on working throughout our lives. Now, there is something called as Cardiac Remodeling, which means that our heart will adapt itself to the changing body chemistry. For example, if your body has lower blood levels, then your heart will adapt to this situation and you will not notice anything.

Your muscles get cramps when they are not receiving proper oxygen and nutrients. They are not receiving oxygen because your heart is not supplying them appropriately. Now, there are various possibilities which explains why your heart will not supply oxygen at right speed. I'll discuss some possible problems, but remember that these are possible answers and not guaranteed answers.

1- Your heart ventricles size could have increased in size. Now you will not notice that because your heart is an expert in adapting to its changing body chemistry. By increased in ventricle size, i mean that your ventricles have developed more muscles than normal, and more muscle mass means reduced ejection fraction (which means that your heart is pumping at lower capacity)

2- Shortness of breath while lying down = Orthopnea, shortness of breath at night = Paraxio Noctornal Dyspnea. These are symptoms of heart failure. Now, heart failure sounds very dangerous but the fact is that it is just like any other health problem. There are different stages of heart failure, and since you don't have any major problem, so it could be very early stage of heart failure.

Early stage heart failure are easily managed by doing regular exercise and some medication. But, not taking actions to cure it can lead to next stages of heart failure, which are severe.

Now, It's good that you have done Iodine test because it is perfect way to find blockages in arteries. But since you mentioned that you also smoked in the past, then chances could be that you have some blockages in other body parts also, especially in areas where you experience muscle cramps.
Feel free to contact me back.


Harish uginval

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Date Joined Mar 2009
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   Posted 8/4/2015 3:07 PM (GMT -6)   
artery blockage. cholesterol / lipid levels may be fine, but previous history of diabetes and and heavy weight / obesity / shortness of breath can indicate a early dx of heart failure as mentioned. angiogram to check for artery blockage? damage previous morbidity can also indicative as well. already present. this was in my case. this was indicative with me. NSTEMI. possible angiogram, stress test. angina-more in front of chest painful and tight. consult a cardiologist. welcome to both. great info harish. i am trying to keep the forum active, i am a learner in this area. had NSTEMI and subsequent double by pass.


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