left ventricular hypertrophy & Exercise

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piannino
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   Posted 5/28/2016 8:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello!

i am a 31 years old male, aproximately 2 years ago i went to have a heart check and durring the scan they found that i have a medium left ventricular hypertrophy. The doctor that checked me assumed i am suffering from blood pressure and recomended that i check it out. Following the scan i went to two cardiologists and both found that i had high blood pressure (160/110) but said that my high blood pressure is a result of me being extremely overweight and asked me to attempt and lose weight before prescribing me any medicine.

After the cardiologists i signed up to a gym and started working out extensively to fix my issues. At the moment i have lost aproximately 15 kilograms and acquired more muscle mass. My work outs are a combination of cardio and medium to heavy resistance training (benching 80kg, deadlifts 80kg). My blood pressure is now 120/70 and my resting heart beat has droped from 90-100 to 50-60... in general i feel great...i sleep better, i walk easier, i live easier... My only concern is if the fact i am losing my weight through body building and weight lifting. Could it make my enlarged left ventricle get worse and lead to a sudden heart attack or death?

Would just like to hear people's oppinions, thank you very much!

piannino
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   Posted 5/29/2016 9:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Anyone? :(

theHTreturns...
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   Posted 5/30/2016 1:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I doubt it. sudden death type stuff. but I would have ya blood pressure kept a check on. talk with ya doc regarding ya work out regime. sometimes we can push too hard. forum slow at the moment, my knowledge is getting on the ticker, double by pass type stuff. keep strong and welcome.
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KayB87
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   Posted 6/27/2016 12:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Start using natural supplements that are proven cardioprotectors. Myoqinon ubiquinone has proven in large clinical trials with both Heart Failure patients and healthy senior citizens to strengthen the heart and reduce cardiovascular mortality by 43-54%.
Be aware that ubiquinone can lower blood pressure and blood sugar as well.
Keep up your great work

jdiane
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   Posted 6/28/2016 6:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Its a tough one. The safe answer is ask your cardiologist. But I know what mine would say, and I'm not great at listening :)

I too lift a weights, however my deadlift is about half yours :)

I'm a 41 year old female and I have congenital heart disease, now a prosthetic aortic valve and an Aortic Aneurysm. I'm told nothing over 20 pounds and I stuck to that, until i didn't. But I slowly built up my strength and can now lift much more. I'm careful to build in weight slowly as to not overly strain and in turn flush my BP to quickly.

Some might say why take the risk? I feel so much better about myself and my life when I'm doing the exercise I enjoy. I feel stronger and able to tackle my illnesses better, have more of a sense of control on my health. It makes me happy and confident and so it's worth it to me.

I'm followed annually with echo and an MRI sometimes too and I've shown no increase in my aneurysm so far, fingers crossed. I do take a beta blocker.

Our situations are very different. Your cardiologist really should be your first person to ask and then you can scale your decisions from there. Good luck!

Pratoman
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   Posted 6/28/2016 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Kayb87, can you provide a link to the studies you refer to? I'm not aware of any supplements that have been proven in Randomized clinical trials on a large enough scale to be valid. But I'd be interested in seeing them if they exist.

To the original poster....I'm glad your program is working for you.

I've always believed you get fit in the gym and you lose weight in the kitchen. I've lost 45 pounds over the last 5 years, all with diet. I did it gradually, and the last 15 pounds, which are usually the toughest, came off so easily. I simply eliminated carbs. Both whole grains and the crappy kind. No bread, rice, pasta of any kind. And the pounds melted off
Dx Age 64 Nov 2014, 4.3
BX 3 of 12 cores positive original pathologyG6, G6, G8 (3+5)
downgraded to 3+3=6 by Dr Epstein, JH
RALP with Dr Ash Tewari Jan 6, 2015
Post surgical pathology – G7 (3+4), ECE, Margins, LN, SV all negative
PSA @ 6 weeks 2/15, .<02, 4/15 <.02 7/15 <.02, 10/15 0.00 (new lab) , 1/16, 0.00
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KayB87
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   Posted 8/19/2016 4:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Here are the links to both studies:
Q-Symbio study: On Heart Failure patients, NYHA class III & IV. Gold Standard clinical trial. 3x100mg myoqinon per day or placebo. 43% reduction in cardiovascular mortality and MACE as compared to placebo. Link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25282031

KiSel-10 study: on healthy 70-to 88-year old seniors. Gold standard clinical trial. 2x100mg myoqinon & 2x100mcg selenoprecise per day or placebo. 54% reduction in cardiovascular mortality as compared to placebo. Link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22626835

Pratoman said...
Kayb87, can you provide a link to the studies you refer to? I'm not aware of any supplements that have been proven in Randomized clinical trials on a large enough scale to be valid. But I'd be interested in seeing them if they exist.

To the original poster....I'm glad your program is working for you.

I've always believed you get fit in the gym and you lose weight in the kitchen. I've lost 45 pounds over the last 5 years, all with diet. I did it gradually, and the last 15 pounds, which are usually the toughest, came off so easily. I simply eliminated carbs. Both whole grains and the crappy kind. No bread, rice, pasta of any kind. And the pounds melted off

Pratoman
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   Posted 8/20/2016 8:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you. I will look at these studies.
Dx Age 64 Nov 2014, 4.3
BX 3 of 12 cores positive original pathologyG6, G6, G8 (3+5)
downgraded to 3+3=6 by Dr Epstein, JH
RALP with Dr Ash Tewari Jan 6, 2015
Post surgical pathology – G7 (3+4), ECE, Margivns, LN, SV all negative
PSA @ 6 weeks 2/15, .<02, 4/15 <.02 7/15 <.02, 10/15 0.00 (new lab) , 1/16, 0.00, 6/16 0.00
My Story: tinyurl.com/oo9x4aq

heya
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   Posted 8/21/2016 4:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Speak to your cardio, i have mild impairment on my left ventricular im 35, look up Hawthorne berry tea, d ribose, l carnitine, magnesium, coq 10, l arginine, and theres another one i cant remember ghey put it in energy drinks and again speak to your cardio bedore you take any of these.
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