Anyone doing no oil plant based diet?

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judytor
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   Posted 9/1/2016 9:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I've been following the diet from Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease by Caldwell Esselstyn. It is working beautifully for me, and wondering if there's others doing this too?

Pratoman
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   Posted 9/2/2016 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Judy, i did a lot of reading on Esselstyn and Ornisch (similar except he allows oils, and i think, egg whites and also has a more holistic approach, not just diet but exercise and stress reduction techniques.
I just felt it was unsustainable.

I have gone a different route. I follow Dr William Davis, who authored the best seller Wheat Belly. He has a website, Cureality.com (its subscription, but pretty cheap) which has all the materials you need to read, as well as a fairly active forum.
Anyway, the diet part is opposite of Esselstyn. Davis advocates low carb, high fat (mostly "good fat")
For me, it brought my weight down about 15 pounds (i had alreadyr lost 30 on my own), and my triglycerides, which were always a big problem, from 208, to 85.

It just made sense to me because carbs are a big antagonist in triglycerides. I've elimintated all whet - rice, pasta, bread, farro, quinoa, etc. And i dont limit fats. I do probably eat more saturated fat than i should, but i am working on it.

I have 2 stents, and a heavy plaque load. Is it reducing or stopping growth of plaque? i dont know but its helped my markers tremendously, and i feel better than i ever have in my adult life. LDL is 60, total cholesterol is 83, and as i mentioned , triglycerides 85 . HDL is still low at 30. I am on 10 mg Crestor, so that has somethign to do with the choesterol numbers, but the triglycerides are all diet

I think both approaches can work, everyone is different, for me, i felt Esselstyn, which i seriously considered, was unsustainable. I love food.
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judytor
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   Posted 9/2/2016 3:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you, Pratoman, for sharing what you are doing diet wise. Like you, I have found that eating refined carbs, especially breads and pastas, are not good for my health. They tend to increase my inflammation. My CRP levels are now below 5 without those unhealthy carbs. I eat complex carbs like potatoes, brown rice, quinoa, and steel cut oatmeal, and I am loving how I feel. I am now off all medications, fully recovered, and my cardiologist is extremely pleased. I like to cook, and with the different cookbooks out there on no oil plant based eating, I have found that I am able to eat a variety of foods and am enjoying this way of eating. It was hard at first, I'll admit. I missed cheese like crazy, and when I smell a barbecue I am imagining how good it all tastes. But I am grateful to be back to good health. The real bonus has been a weight loss of nearly 60 lbs. I still have about 40 lbs to lose, but how I feel is night and day from where I was a year ago.

It sounds like you are doing great, and you're right, everyone is different. Thanks for talking about what you are doing. My brother is having heart issues too, and he has no interest in following Esselstyn's plan. I will recommend Dr. Davis's book to him. Thank you for that!

Rainer
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   Posted 11/1/2017 3:27 PM (GMT -7)   
I read and folllwed Dr Esselstyn and also working through the China study book.
It all sounds so re assuring and it appears to make sene. So i have been religiously doing the plant base diet. I figured either way it can't be bad for you and considering i got heart disease, triple bypass, 4 stents and feeling nothing but it all eventually progress further in a negative way.
I am on slow release angina medication to help keep that in check.
It has been some 6 weeks since and based on his studies patienys having had improved and angina symptoms reduced or gone.
I can't make the same claim and do wonder how much of it is a beat up?
I should have also improved.
I am having trouble actually finding people who actually can confirm such improvements online as it is claimed.
Anyone?
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