Fourth Ablation

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LilacGal
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   Posted 12/14/2005 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey y'all,

Yep...ya read the title correctly. I'm going to have a fourth ablation next Wed, Dec 21 at 6:30am. I started having tachycardia problems again in October. My EP told me he swore he wasn't going to do another one of these on my after the last one but I had a holter about two weeks ago that showed I was consistantly reaching rates of 150...my average heart rate had risen to almost what it was before the third ablation. So, it looks like ablation number four now. My EP said he expected I'd be in the hospital 2-3 days judging from my past history. The second and third ablations had me in an abnormal rhythm post-procedure so I have to stay when that happens.

I'm kinda nervous. I hope this one fixes things once and for all.


Lil
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Patoolla
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   Posted 12/15/2005 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Its good to hear from you Lil, but sorry your news isn't good and that you have to have a 4th ablation!  Bless your heart!  I will say a BIG prayer for you and hope this ablation is a total success!  You sure deserve to be free of this problem!  yeah   Let us know how it goes!  Hugs, Pat

LilacGal
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   Posted 12/17/2005 9:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Pat. Nerves are starting to get to me. This is the last day of school before break. I'm missing the Christmas Mass. And my grade is the one doing it! :( Oh well...it's for a good reason though. I'm trying not to think about the complications to this. EP said earlier a fourth ablation could mean a pacemaker. I don't want that but I just want this all over...I'll do just about anything for that.

Lil
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Patoolla
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   Posted 12/17/2005 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh shoot, sorry you have to miss the Christmas Mass especially since it is your class doing it!  Maybe someone will video tape it!  It is good timing though, that your ablation will be during the Christmas break!  Thank goodness your waiting isn't too much longer now.  I know you must dread the idea of a pacemaker but in my travels to the different boards and especially one just for arrythmias, many people have them and they aren't too bad at all and have a good success rate of helping control the heart rhythm!  For some they have even saved their lives!  Your still in my prayers and we will be anxious to hear how your ablation goes Wed.!  Big Hug, Pat

Juliette1
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   Posted 12/19/2005 5:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh dear Lil, what a disappointment. I'll be thinking of you on Wednesday, hope it won't be too awful and that it will be sucessful!!!

JulesO
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   Posted 12/21/2005 8:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Good luck today Lil...you are in my thoughts and prayers.

Patoolla
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   Posted 12/22/2005 8:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Hope your ablation was a total success yesterday Lil, and hope to hear how it went soon!  Hugs, Pat  smurf   smurf   smurf (just for you!) 

LilacGal
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   Posted 12/23/2005 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi y'all,

Already out of the hospital!! YAY!! My doc did something a little different this time. He told my husband about it and then my hubby tried to explain it to me...I'm not sure I understand it. My doc said he used a catheter that had gel at the end. That filled in any crevices adn then he burned all that. My head is still swimming from beind sedated. I'm on phenergran right now...very nauseous. I'm also quite sore in my chest and leg.

But I'm home! So far so good! No racing yet.

Lil
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Patoolla
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   Posted 12/25/2005 1:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Good Lil!!!  I'm glad the doc tried this different technique and sure hope it does the trick this time!  Got my fingers, toe, eyes all crossed...adding a prayer too!  teehee  Its a very good sign that your heart hasn't raced!  I'm glad your on Christmas break so, hopefully, you can just pamper yourself and take it easy to help you have a nice speedy recovery!  Hugs, Pat

wa5ekh
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   Posted 12/26/2005 9:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Lily, I am not a doctor,…. and while I respect what doctors are trying to do....4 ablations??? ...bet you are starting to be concerned ...right?

Reason for my concern:
My oldest daughter (18 years, very thin, “Normal” Range "Blood Sugar" 70's..) had "spells" of very high heart rates 150-220/minute for 10 seconds to 2 minutes. At first we thought they were seizures. It was sort of obvious, but by the time we got to the Dr. they were gone..."PSVT" was finally diagnosed after we went several time and waited for a repeat event. We were all scared....read everything I could get my hands on (typical for a child walefare threatening issues)...cardiologists suggested ablation...found a PSVT message board site....very scary stuff!!. Finally she had an ablation and some slight minor complications...and later catheterization issues (!! Now my highest level reservation!!). They mapped and ablated a single site. But post ablation, it was apparent that this also seemed to now have different, equally distressing side effects...new patterns of trauma....we were pitched on a second ablations, but now were much more skeptical....and my daughter said she was beginning to feel more like an experimental guinea pig than patient.
I went to a local Medical school and approached several friends I had worked with years ago about this. I got many points of view and I managed to speak with a couple of teaching Cardiologists, picked the one that seemed the least defensive and made a second opinion appointment. I told him up front that I would NEVER use him as an active Cardiologist and I only wanted his Personal Professional opinion of the current status and that I needed several alternate approaches to "fix" or help stabilize this. He seemed a little surprised. I offered to sign a waiver to hold him free from any liability from this consultation, to try to insure his openness.
I was very surprised at the results. My daughter and I both met with him and he let us know things I'm sure I never would have discovered any other way. It also confirmed some of our concerns and diffused other misconceptions. It only cost $250 cash ( I was surprised). We found that younger people frequently grow out of this PSVT cycle (I personally think it was the Barbie Diet Syndrome-anorexia). Also, he suggested a Female Cardiologist that he was familiar with that treated primarily women with similar histories, generally with a very careful non-invasive short term medical treatments, some what considered (by the this lady cardio) as experimental.
We rejected the second ablation and tried this female Cardiologist. After two years we could see he symptoms slowly subside (extra pace maker or not). We convinced her (slowly!!) she didn't need to be Barbie too...whichever worked the PSVT and the post-ablation cardio trauma issues are very rare now (as apposed to several times an hour!! and per day!). We will monitor this situation a suppose as long as we are "still breathing", right?!
I have since been looking for a general population study to see "how many people in the general population have these Cardio-irregularities" and pursuing my own personal quest to find what foods or additives cause these issues commonly!

Good Luck! God Protect!

(…my personal non-medical non-professional opinion is that every time we fool with the extremely!!! complex bio-chemical/physically sensitive Human integrated systems, we fix one thing and screw up the extremely intricate natural balance of a somewhat miraculously sophisticated gift!….no mater how smart we think we are. That is why I left bio-research 30 years ago.)

LilacGal
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   Posted 12/31/2005 4:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Sigh...Never let your husband talk to your nurse. I called to reschedule my cardio appt and asked to speak to a nurse. I wanted to tell her about how I'd been feeling. Hubby kept telling me things to tell the nurse so I just handed him the phone. Nurse called us back after a few minutes and told us the doc wanted to see me asap at the hospital. sigh

So they kept me overnight for observation. My heart rate has been fluctuating btwn 45 and 120. Of course, it stayed rather normal at the hospital. Why is it always like that? It did drop into the upper 40's a few times. In the ER, I kept setting off the alarm for dropping below 50...that's never been a problem before.

I did find out some new things though. This ablation was different...it was the first time my EP had done a cryo-ablation. He altered my p-waves...actually, now I don't really have any p-waves. I'm in a junctional rhythm all the time. Doc wanted that bc in the past my sinus rhythm has always returned to be too fast. The EP I saw in the ER observed my procedure so he was familiar with my case. He said he wasn't surprised I was still having chest pain a week later (and still having it now). This ablation was much deeper than the previous ones.

I'm just trying to take it easy right now. School starts back on Tuesday. Gotta be ready for that.

Lil
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Patoolla
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   Posted 1/1/2006 1:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh my goodness Lil, I hope and pray that this is something that will get better as your heart heals!  You've been through so much and I know you must be very disappointed again.  I've heard of the cryo ablation but haven't known too many people that have had it to tell us how it was for them.  Take it real easy and I hope you feel well enough to work Tuesday.  Your still in my prayers Lil.  Hugs, Pat

LilacGal
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   Posted 1/4/2006 4:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Pat. Today has been a day. I've been really dizzy this afternoon...so dizzy that I didn't even go shopping when a friend invited me. I saw my cardio yesterday. I found out one reason I've felt bad is bc I've started going back and forth btwn a junctional rhythm and a sinus rhythm. My heart can't seem to decide which way to beat. They did another holter. I'll get the results in a couple weeks. yay.

lil
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Patoolla
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   Posted 1/14/2006 10:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Lil, I'm so sorry I'm just now responding to your last post.  I have had company and haven't been able to check in here!  Bless your heart, I was hoping this last ablation was going to fix you up at last!  Keeping you in my prayers and let us know the monitor results!  Hopefully this new problem is just the heart needing time to heal from the last ablation and the docs can give you a med to control it so you don't have those dizzy spells!  Big hug and hang in there dear friend!  Pat 

EmeraldHeart
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   Posted 2/10/2016 11:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

Was it a success?? I am thinking of a 4th or a AV Node Ablation. I have SVT, AF, AT, Tacky Brady, SSS, Flutter and a new rhythim i don't remember that came alive during my 3rd ablation this past October. My SV Node has been removed and I have been living on my pacemaker since 2004.

I don't know if I want the damage an ablation does to your heart again.

They can't determine the cause of my problem or if it is a birth defect or not.

I am at a loss. I am a single mother of 4 and only 46. I don't know what to do.

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   Posted 2/11/2016 1:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi EmeraldHeart, just wanted to let you now you have posted on a very old thread that is a little over 10 yrs old & its been that long since the original poster made this thread.

Take care.
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