coronary heart failure

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hope3
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   Posted 3/14/2006 2:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone else have coronary heart failure?I also have depression,anxiety and thyroidism.I feel like I am not handling this heart disease very well and I need to learn better coping skills, can anyone help me?The Doctor says Im at very high risk for heart attack or stroke.I've had quad.bypass surgery in 2002,but less than a year later they found another blockage at the back of my heart.The only thing left to do is a heart transplant,and I have decided against having one.I'm 47 and get very scared sometimes.I'm moody alot because I dont feel good,or just feeling sorry for myself.I would like to learn how to cope with this disease better.I would appreciate any response. sad

bandit28804
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   Posted 3/14/2006 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't know much in the way of coronary heart stuff. The only heart problem that I have been having is PVC's. However I am an expert in Depression and what not due to my Anxiety/Panic attacks that I have. The best thing that I find to do for depression are what you are doing now. Which is talking about it. Also watching a good comedy or action or whatever you like type of movie. Definately avoid the depressing love movies lol. That is not a good idea when you are depressed I know from experience. Listening to music that you love and singing along. Find a good site online to play games on. I hope some of this helps. I am sorry I can't be of more help with the other problems but I hope I can help you find a way to fight the depression =0). Have a great day and I am off to work woohoo (believe that woohoo for work?) Wanted to try and make you laugh. Laughing is always good for depression.

Hopes
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   Posted 3/14/2006 10:10 AM (GMT -7)   
HI! I don't have coronary heart failure but I have coronary artery spasms, pac/pvc's, occasionaly tachy episodes including PSVT, GERDS (doc says) and doc suspects fibromyalgia. No definative diagnosis in this area but I fit all the  symptoms including pressure points test although it is definately mild compared to how others suffer with it. I understand about depression and struggle with anxiety although I really fight it. I am at increased risk for a heart attack or fatal venticular arrhythmia because of the coronary artery spasms although my prognosis is good because they say I have no blockages.(Cardiologist did a 64slice CT Scan.) I understand moodiness and don't feel good most of the time. When the pain starts up in my chest, neck and back area, I get scared because I don't know if it is coronary artery spasms or fibro.
 
What do I do? Pray ALOT. I don't want to bring down my family or scare them so I don't talk about it to them too much. My daughter is still young and my husband feels helpless. So I turn to God. He hears and sees and cares about me, I am sure!!! He doesn't get tired of me being tired or in pain or afraid. He is not aggravated by my anxiety and fears. He can understand me and I am sure that without HIM I would be a complete basketcase. So I pray and I read my Bible because I can find alot of comfort there. This helps me want to reach out more to others and help them and to serve God. That part helps me because it helps to get my mind off me and the pain and onto others and Jesus. Also I come to boards like this where I can find friendships and support. For me, knowing that others are struggling with these kinds of things also makes me feel like I can hang in there and fight. I don't feel so alone or afraid.
 
Oh-one more thing. Bandit is SO RIGHT!!!! Laughing is always good. I went out and bought some  funny books like GARFIELD and I read them and laugh. It really works for lightening my mood. LOL :-)

Aldo
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   Posted 3/14/2006 10:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Hope3

We are on the same wavelength today. I am searching for better coping skills myself, in dealing with heart disease and depression. When I feel good, I am not so depressed because I can stay busy. When I feel bad, I get depressed.

The thing is, I know the reasons for my depression. I cannot live the socially accepted and expected, healthy lifestyles. I am not doing all I can to get better, or help my condition, yet I know that responsible people have the character and willpower to correct their bad habits. So I see myself as something less than a responsible adult. I am flawed. I am a hypocrite for smoking and then trying to push the medical world to save me. Trying to quit causes lots of stress, and bowing to defeat causes depression.

I think that Bandit was right on when he said the first and most important step was to talk about it. I think that is what I needed to do today, as painful as it is.

You have been through a very traumatic experience with the CABG. Heart disease and trauma to the body is known to cause depression, and anxiety can definitely be caused by depression, don't you think?

I take 20mg's of Lexapro/day for depression. It helps I guess, but I have been reading about the effects of SSRI class depression medicines on the cerebral vascular system. It seems under certain conditions, it can cause the blood vessels in the brain to constrict. I gotta look at this some more.

Make a list of all that is wrong in your life. Then look at what you have the power to change and what you do not. Stop any struggle you have with something you may not can change. Accept it and surrender to it. Make or find peace with it. Stop the inner struggle it has/is causing. Can you accept it if it is going to shorten your life? This is my problem area, but acceptance of some undesirable influences/personal character flaws in our lives, takes away their power to hurt us. We no longer fall short in some of our self expectations. When we constantly fail our goals, it's time to re-evaluate them, I think, don't you?

Alcoholics have a prayer that I'm sure you have heard: " G-d grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." This is a simple but powerful thought to me.

I will take you literally for what you said about your heart disease/condition, and in doing so, I must say that you did not properly explain the reason that you need a heart transplant. You mention the quadruple bypass and another coronary artery that is blocked. How does this warrant the need for a transplant? I don't doubt you, but when I hear that someone needs a transplant, I like to hear why.

You are not alone in facing a heart attack or stroke. Most with severe CAD/arteriosclerosis face the same possibilities/probabilities. We have to deal with this, less we let it get the best of us. Again, I think we should do all within our power to reduce the likelihood of this happening, and not worry about the rest. We need to exercise daily. This should be done with supervision or maybe just a dose of common sense. I believe that when we have the energy to exercise, we have HOPE. The thing is, we are sick some days (sometimes many days) and it interrupts our routine. We need to eat right and take certain vitamins and supplements. This is a science unto itself plus lessons in cooking, lol.

We need to know and understand our heart medicines and recognize when they may need adjusting. These medicines tend to slow down our metabolism, increase our blood glucose, decrease our energy levels and blood circulation. Some may add to our depression. Anyone who takes the common heart medicines for heart failure, over long periods of time AND do not have an exercise routine will not get better. That's just my opinion. These medicines should come with a requirement for aerobic exercise, especially the beta blockers, which slow down our pulse and decrease the force or the contraction of our heart beat.

You have an extra burden with your thyroid disease. It and the medicines to treat it do not go well with heart disease, I have read. You must keep your thyroid hormone levels within limits, or where you feel best, which sometimes does not fall within the normal accepted limits.

You must have a belief system. If you are not religious, then look into Eastern philosophy, metaphysics, meditation and yoga. Enrich your inner self with new ideas and ways of coping.

There is no replacement for having an understanding, significant other. The reality of the situation is that they become drained from hearing our worries and complaints, unless they are very special people and/or you and they were very much in love a long time before the heart disease began. They then realize the toll that heart disease has taken on us physically and most of all mentally. It amazes people for me to explain what happens during a stent insertion. I never bring it up, but will explain to my friends and family how it is done. The look in their eyes at least tells you that you are now a brave soldier. You lay on the cath table time and time again. You have laid on the bypass surgery table. This table I am fighting hard! That is my struggle or my goal :) He** Hope3, you deserve mine and all else's sympathy, and empathy from others. There is a certain amount of compensation I think we need, if we presumably have had a family or a otherwise good support network, for years before our disease began, in that they respect our burden.. It is being way too virtuous to not expect some sorrow for our plights. Life in and out of a hospital is not fun. I can never get along with them, lol.

I also recognize that I, in turn have placed a burden on my spouse. I must compensate her for the sorrow that my health brings her way. So it is give and take, I guess. Both spouses need mutual support and unique understanding of the situation.

I feel your pain today. I am very blue also. I woke this morning after 5 hours of sleep, form a recurring nightmare.

I got food poisoning Saturday night :( and have had a bad time of it. Tomorrow I hope that we both feel better and have no pain :)

Swami RJ


hope3
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   Posted 3/14/2006 11:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Thankyou so much for all of your responses and kind words.I also believe in God, and pray alot, I dont think I could make it through this without Him.I still smoke too, and get alot of slack from people because of it.But like you Aldo I cant quit because of stress and depression too i think.The reason for the heart transplant is because I have very narrow arterys and the blockage.I asked the doctor why the transplant when he told me,and he said new heart means new arterys.When he told me I broke down in the car on my way home.I didnt know I was that bad until he told me,Ive beeen scared ever since.My husband is very supportive of me, but I know its hard on him,especially when I get angry about my situation and take it out on him.I dont mean to,I feel real bad afterwards and always apologize,but it makes me feel like I am a weak person for not handling things better.Weve been married 30 years so he knows me very well,he trys to help,but doesnt know how.It helps me alot to be able to discuss this with people,I dont say anything to my kids or anybody else except my husband because I dont want to be a burden on anyone.And I feel like I am to my husband,but thats another story.Again, thank you so much to everyone it means alot knowing people understand what Im going through, and truly care about me.God Bless You All!
 


Kathlyn1950
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   Posted 3/14/2006 3:04 PM (GMT -7)   
I was going to add my two cents here, Hope, but it's not necessary. You got some great advice! Hang in there. It will get better.

"When you get into a tight place and it seems that you can't go on, hold on — for that's just the place and the time that the tide will turn." Harriet Beecher Stowe


hope3
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   Posted 3/16/2006 9:51 AM (GMT -7)   
You are absolutely right Kathlyn,I agree and it was all very helpful.
 


heartangel
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   Posted 3/24/2006 7:04 PM (GMT -7)   

Hope 3

I am a  Community Emergency response Team Member  for our fire/rescue deot

I have had 2 heart atacks adn chf and also hypothyroidism adn hashimoto's thyroiditis the auto imune diesase where your thyroid attacks yuor own thyroid do you ahve the auto immune disease of your thyroid or yur regualr hypo thyroidism if so either one when yuor tiggers are out of whack it makes your CHF worse I know mine does so I have had hypo since age 12 for 38+ years and if yuo got the aauto immune kind yuo gotmore uto imune too i also havebeen diagonsed withthe dreaded fibromyalgia toobut my nodules are  solid like frioazen choclate adn they cannot egt anything out of them so i willa sk myDr to kil it with RAI so it willnot bother my  CHF and  other  trouoble I got with my heart.

 HUGSSSSSSSSSSSSS

HeartAngel;


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hope3
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   Posted 3/25/2006 3:10 AM (GMT -7)   
heartangel,i I did'nt know if one could effect the other, so you just answered my question. Thank you so much for your reply. I have hypothyroidism and a goider which come back ok evertime I have it tested. But I'm so glad to hear that if my thyroid acts up that it can effect my heart as well, I didn't know that. I'm sorry to hear you are having so many health problems. I hope you feel better soon!God Bless You!
 

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