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Bria
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   Posted 4/26/2006 11:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey guys-
 
Every time I try and lay down to go to sleep tonight, I keep getting bad, scary palpitations.  Im scared.  Do you think I should go to the ER or just see if they go away?

Chrissmithx
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   Posted 4/27/2006 12:04 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Bria,

            I'm not familiar with your case, but I used to get this every night and couldn't understand the reason why. Here is a  question that related to my trouble and may to yours:

1. How long, before you went to bed, did you eat?

If less than two hours, chances are that your digestive system is still working and is stimulating the part of the nervous system that also feeds the heart. Spicy/rich foods will compound the situation. If you were full when you went to bed, this can cause a degree of reflux from the stomach into the aesophagus, which shares the vagus nerve with the heart.

If any of the above is right for your case, there are a couple of things you can do to ease the problem. One is to drink a small glass of drinking yogurt to help calm things down. The other is to get a stack of pillows or similar to prop yourself up in bed at an angle. This keeps the stomach contents properly in the stomach, and should help you have a more stable sleep. I've found that when the stomach finishes its job, the palpitations also cease.

This is what I've learned about my problem. Hope it's useful to you.

Chris


SarahP
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   Posted 4/27/2006 8:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Bria.. I get more of them laying down than I do standing/sitting. I think sometimes it has to do with the heart changing into "relax" mode from "busy" mode. I learned Chris's information years ago and never eat, or eat a light snack, before I lay down. They did decrease dramatically.
If you have never had these checked out then I would see a doc about them, mostly just to ease your mind.
I used to have massive panic attacks when they would start, now after testing and learning about them, I can ignore them majority of the time. I just roll to a new position and sigh.
My doc told me to cough when I felt them, for some reason it's supposed to kick in some system somewhere that tells the heart to go back to normal rhythym. (wow.. that was pretty unscientific..lol.)
Best wishes, Sarah
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els
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   Posted 4/27/2006 9:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Bria,  I don't recall if you've had these checked out by a physician or not..sorry eyes .  But if you haven't you should if for nothing else than to ease your mind.  It could be anxiety, I do remember you saying that was an issue, but still you need to get any pains or palpitations check out.


David_
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   Posted 4/27/2006 2:54 PM (GMT -7)   
I get this too. I think the reason for this is pronged sort to speak. When you lay down at night, your mind tends to wander on you and you have a lot more time to think about everything so sometimes your heart will begin to go with that wandering. Another thing to consider is the placement of your head to your pillows especially in relation to your ear or arteries (throat). If your ear is placed such a way, you can hear your heart beating as if it's exploding out of your neck/chest but it really isn't, you're just hearing it really well because of the silence and because of your ear.

Think about that for a while and see what you think :)

Bria
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   Posted 4/27/2006 7:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all so much for your insight and support.  They got really bad this morning, and my heart was racing a lot too.  Its so scary.  My cardiologist wants me to to see an electrophysiologist and have an EP study.  has anyone ever had one of those?

Hopes
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   Posted 4/27/2006 8:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Bria, My cardiologist sent me to one but the EP didn't think I needed one. He didn't feel there was much of interest going on with me just run-of-mill PAC's, PVC's. He said if I ever have another long run of SVT to go the the ER and have them do an EKG to send him because he might be able to do an ablation on that.

terrianne88
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   Posted 4/28/2006 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   
I had bad palpitations for a few weeks and went to a cardiologist, he sent me for a stress echo and everything turned out fine and said it was just an extra heart beat and to stop caffeine.  I stopped caffeine and within a few days everything was great but now their back with a vengence, i have changed nothing and continue to drink only decaf.  I have had them every day for 12 days all day long, has anyone else experienced this?

Bria
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   Posted 4/28/2006 12:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey everyone!  I am SO frustrated with doctors today.  I went BACK to the ER again last night for the palps .  They gave me 2 xanax... and did ekg- it showed no extra beats or anything even though i was feeling the fluttering, especially laying flat.  I got discharged, and then today the nurse ( who is NOT compassionate at all) for my cardiologist called me.  He said that the EP can see me May 9th. Im like, what the H*ll am I supposed to do in the mean time! 
 
So then I asked him if I could continue to exercise and he said "i cant say yes, and I cant say no"...  Now im SO scared and I dont know HOW i am going to wait until may 9th. Im scared I will have to call off work or take a leave of absence because I am not going to be able to be myself...
 
I think one reason that they are concerned is because I used to have an arrthymia WPW. I had 2 ablations but that was over ten years ago.  Since then, I have been great until recently (december) when I started getting all these palps and episoded of pounding heartbeat. But I have had ALL the other tests besides the 24 hour urine and the EP study -- all pretty normal.  I easily slip into sinus tach, and like i said, in the er it got up to 150 but thats not bad considering what i know SVT gets up to.  Hopes, how fast have you felt your svt rate at? 
 
Thank you all so much. Its SO helpful to know I am not alone. take care and god bless.

David_
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   Posted 4/28/2006 10:03 PM (GMT -7)   
If it puts your mind at ease - during my hayday with palpitations for six months (before my medication) I was seeing palpitations up to and over 200 a minute almost daily and talk about frequent ...UGH they would come on every couple hours. The point of this is to let you know you're very much NOT going to die or anything so I hope you can ease yourself about that worry.

I have had VERY negative experience with my cardiologists nurse so much so that I decided to drop him and leave him a terrible phone call about her attitude to which he has *NEVER* responded. I had palpitations off and on since October of last year until about two months ago . I know it can sound cliche and annoying, but you really need to hold on to yourself and your sanity -- this will all be over a lot sooner than you think. You also need to stop thinking about it so much -- you may deny it (or not) but I can tell you for a fact my biggest problem BY FAR was sitting around the house all day worrying about when they would come on. I even used to talk myself into having them BECAUSE I was so expectant of them coming on.

If you are slipping into Sinus Tachycardia you need to have a physician or cardiologist (prefferably the latter) determine if it is inappropriate or appropriate sinus tach (funny words for that huh?) I would like you to read over the following article and put yourself at ease about this problem - http://heartdisease.about.com/cs/arrhythmias/a/IST.htm sinus tach is not the end of your life and should not mean the virtual death of your social life either. The worst thing you can do to yourself is to give into the problem and allow it to control you, once it controls you it's all over.

Hopes
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   Posted 4/29/2006 9:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Bria, I am so sorry you are having a rough time. I really understand the frustration and the FEAR. When I first started having problems, I went to my GP who said we need to catch these on a monitor or holter because while most are no problem, a few are life-threatening. I'm sure she meant to be reassuring but all I 'heard' was a death sentence. I REALLY became obsessed and TERRIFIED! At the time my little girl was only 4 and my husband worked out of town most night. I wa ALONE with a child who could not dial the phone or unlock the deadbolt on the door. I was afraid to go to sleep at night for fear of not waking up in the morning. WHAT A LOT OF WASTED ENERGY!!!!!-The only good thing to come out of it is that I think I appreciate life and family more. (You really can find a silver lining around every cloud.)

The cardiologist told you that he can't tell you to exercise or not to exercise just to cover HIMSELF whch I can understand also. However I would not take a leave of absence from work because it will just make you think about this more. I think it is better to keep your mind busy and walking around your neighborhood would probably be OK and even relaxing. You don't have to go into an all out SWEATING routine for awhile.

I recorded my highest SVT episode on a home blood pressure monitor which also records heartrate at 134. I never went to the ER. I have since learned that the home monitors will not acurately record arrhythmia heartrates because those heartrates tend to be variable and only monitor for like 20 seconds then calculate your minute beat. You have to take your pulse for a full minute and count it if you are able. During my events, it felt as if a race car was zooming in my chest. It would suddenly start and sudddenly stop and I could feel it in my chest. I could accurately tell when it just stopped!

If you went to the ER and was on a moniotr when you felt the fluttering but nothing was showing on the EKG, that is very good news. It probably means that it is not coming from the heart. I'd suspect a GI thing. I swear that sometimes I think I feel palps from my heart, now I am beginning to feel it is may be from my stomach. ????? Hang on! I am sure you will get to the bottom of it.

This is one thing I have learned over the past 5+yrs: In a structurally normal heart, even the bad arrhythmias are well tolerated. I'm not trying to be flippant. AND I worry PLENTY!! I hate and freakout when my palps are bad. So KNOWING something and being able to IGNORE those thumps and thuds are two entirely different things. I'm just hoping I can give someone else reassurance and peace of mind. Worry robs your life and I am trying SO HARD to not let it have ANYMORE of mine! God BLess! You can hang on until the 9th and if you have another episode, GO BACK to the ER! That's there job and don't be afraid to go back time and time again until you get to the bottom of this!!

David_
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   Posted 4/29/2006 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   
I think it is also worth noting the fact that "tachycardia" is a broad-term applied to ANY condition or person wherein the heart is beating faster than a one hundred beats per minute. Tachycardia itself is usually *NOT* a sign of something more serious, although it can be caused by more serious problems. It's always better to relax and ask your physician or cardiologist FIRST before determining what is wrong with you on your own.

Bria
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   Posted 4/29/2006 6:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I feel like i have totally exhausted my cardiologist and GP docs.....Like they don't know what else to do!  Im wondering if my hormone levels could be making my palps worse. I know that around my menstual cycle, I get them much more frequently.  David, I read up on inappropriate sinus tach---it sounds kind of like what I experience.
 
However, I was (until this last round of ER visits) exercising every day , and I don't tire out or get out of breath easiliy.  Acually, I usually don't feel the palps when I work out....
 
I see the Electrophysiologist Monday.  Im VERY nervous about what he is going to tell me.  The last time I saw an EP was when I had My 2 ablations back in 1996 .  I actually tried to call my old EP Friday but never got a return call.  Im sure he doesnt remember me since it was SO long ago. 
 
Thank you for all of your help ...  I am so scared that I am going to have to have an EP study and they will have to do another ablation. 
But if its just sinus tach, I doubt they would ....  Actually I think it was sinus tach (150 was highest it went) with PVC's. 

David_
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   Posted 4/29/2006 10:50 PM (GMT -7)   
If it is Sinus Tachycardia they will likely just give you a very mild beta-blocker (5-15mg) and send you on your way. Sinus Tach is not life threatening (98% of the time) and usually the only way to cure it is just to keep it from happening or keep you from noticing it. Good luck at the EP, let us know how you make out

Bria
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   Posted 4/30/2006 10:16 AM (GMT -7)   

David- 

Thank you for your response! I will let you know how the doc goes tomorrow.  I hope that he's good and calms me down about this , once and for all. I have taken Inderal before, so if he wants to put me on a beta blocker Im going to see if I can use it again.  Can you exercise and stuff on a beta blocker?


Jen Wall
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   Posted 6/22/2013 2:10 AM (GMT -7)   
bria-
Your situation sounds exactly like mine! I know this is an old post, but I would love to hear how you are doing these days... Any solutions that you have found?

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   Posted 6/22/2013 9:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Jen,
 
This is a very old thread and Bria has not posted since 2006. 
 

May I kindly suggest you start a new topic thread for yourself if you feel comfortable doing so, so everyone can recognize you as a new member and welcome you.

I will lock this thread down.

Thank you for your understanding.


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