I think I'm refluxing without the acid!

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dakotagirl
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   Posted 8/9/2008 8:53 AM (GMT -6)   
I think I've finally figured out my issue... I don't have acid issues unless I forget my PPI or eat a LOT of an acidic food. However, I am nauseated every morning and must make myself vomit to get over it. (the foamy white stuff I've posted about previously, and the translucent goo, ending in bile.) Yuck. Not good. So in one of my email newsletters there was an article on non-acid reflux. I really think this is what is happening to me. The acid is neutralized by the PPI, but I'm still refluxing! Nothing has helped. I have a GERD pillow. That doesn't help. I don't eat for a few hours before bed. No help. I've taken Zantac before bed (in addition to my AM PPI). No help. No tight clothes. I'm a few pounds overweight, but I had the same problem since I wasn't. Really, it's been almost FOUR years of this. Every doc has blown me off :( I'm going to call my current GI again on Monday since I think I have terminology for this now.

Anyone else have this problem??? What do you do to help it? Any other advice?
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stkitt
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   Posted 8/10/2008 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi dakotagirl,

I do not have this problem as I can usually control the night time sx by use of my meds and being very careful what I eat before bed. 

Non-acid reflux is when other potentially harmful agents (not stomach acid) are refluxed into the oesophagus such as bile. It has been discovered that non-acid reflux is defined as a reflux that has a greater pH level than 4. Unfortunately, not much is known about non-acid reflux, its symptoms, or the affects it has on the oesophagus.

It has been found that most cases of non-acid reflux occur after mealtime when the contents of the stomach are being neutralized, and the condition is more present in children than adults.

Medical researchers are still trying to figure out the exact cause of non-acid reflux. Currently new technology is being used that can accurately determine the presence of acid or non-acid in the oesophagus by measuring the Ph level.

I looks like you have info newer then what I have so I would surely go to your GI physician to explore this avenue.

Let us know and good luck.

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Gabby123
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   Posted 8/11/2008 5:40 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi...I have non acidic reflux.  I can tell you exactly what it does to your esophagus.  I have bile refluxing up into my throat every day, no matter what I eat or what I dont eat.  I hardly get the heartburn, just the horrible bile.  Yes, it doe s major damage.  The whole back of my throat is scarlet red and I have throat ulcers because of it.  I have a very weak LES so it doesnt matter what I eat stomach contents back up into my throat.  I am constantly regurgitating stomach juices all day long, and I burp up at least 50 times a day.  Its very painful and very disgusting.  I hope you get some relief soon

-Gabbs


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dakotagirl
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   Posted 8/13/2008 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Gabbs - Thank you so much for the info! Is there anything that can be done? What you describe sounds so awful, it makes me ashamed to complain about nausea, vomiting, and the icky tastes I have.

I still haven't called the doc - been super busy at work and just can't stand to hear (again) that it's nothing. sigh...
Pan-colitis and GERD diagnosed May 2003
Osteopenia (hip and spine) diagnosed Feb 2006
Status:  Remission?!?!?
Asacol 12 per day,  Azathioprine 100mg, Aciphex, Forvia, and Pro-Bio
Remicade: 1st infusion 06/17/08:  Next infusion: 10/07/08
Last Prednisone dose:  7/15/08
 
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Gabby123
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   Posted 8/13/2008 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   

dakota,

   No, dont be ashamed because this disease in any form is disgusting.  I'm sorry you have been so sick with this as well.  I am finally getting the surgery done to correct this after 2 years of struggling with this awful wretched affliction.  I'm schedualed for the nissen fundoplication next wednesday and I am praying to God it will be part of my miracle to fix this.  I wish the best for you.

-Gabbs


dakotagirl
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   Posted 8/14/2008 12:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope your surgery and recovery goes smoothly! I will be thinking of you :)
Pan-colitis and GERD diagnosed May 2003
Osteopenia (hip and spine) diagnosed Feb 2006
Status:  Remission?!?!?
Asacol 12 per day,  Azathioprine 100mg, Aciphex, Forvia, and Pro-Bio
Remicade: 1st infusion 06/17/08:  Next infusion: 10/07/08
Last Prednisone dose:  7/15/08
 
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