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nmcvicke
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   Posted 4/9/2009 12:45 PM (GMT -6)   
about a month ago I went in to the doctor for a stomach ache. I had nausea and I assumed it was the flu but I had been home sick from work for three days and wanted to get it checked out. I started feeling better I think in part thanks to Omeprazole I was given. In about a week after my first sickness one night I went out to a mexican resturant and then has some wine and smoked some tobacco (not cigarettes). The next morning I was really sick again and had to call in sick for two more days and slowly got a little better to where I was manageable enough to go to work.

I ended up not getting 100% better at the end of that week and went in to my primary care physician. They ran some blood test and urine and strep test. It all came back negative for anything. That weekend I still did not fully recover and went ahead and let my doctor know. They set me up for a C.T. scan the following Friday and i went in got it and wanted for the results. The next Monday (Three weeks after my intial illness) my doctors nurse called me and said everything looked fine and that it looked like the problem had come from my lymph nodes in the stomach. I said thanks and I had been feeling better (not 100%) so I decided to wait it out and hopefully my stomach was just sore from being so sick for awhile.

Well its been almost 4 and half weeks now and I'm still not 100% better. I seem to have all of the symptoms of GERD. The couple of times I've tried to go without medication for the day (Omeprazole) I get some pretty bad acid indigestion. On top of it all when I wake up in the morning I often have NO appetite until around the middle of the afternoon for any sort of food. My stomach growls sometimes like its hungry but I have no appetite and it is hard to shove food down my throught when my brain doesn't want it. Normally by night time I feel near perfect and can usually eat whatever I want. I still watch what I eat, trying to avoid certain acid causing foods, and don't eat three hours before bed.

I guess my main question is, why do I have no appetite in the morning even though I feel hungry? Also why do I feel worse in the morning than at night? And does it sound like I have GERD?

Thanks for any help. I would be happy to answer any question you all may have.

dencha
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   Posted 4/9/2009 6:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi nmcvicke,
Your symptoms and story are very complex, and I don't know if I can respond in a way that will help, but I'll try.

I can only tell you about my experience with GERD and gastritis. When I would have a big gastritis/GERD flare-up, my appetite would diminish to almost nothing. I could only eat maybe an eighth of a cup of very bland (my favorite was egg custard) food, and I would feel full immediately.
I would have to baby my stomach--eating either egg custard or yogurt--until well past when the stomach seems to be perfect again.

I didn't have any spicy food, rough food, like popcorn, alcohol, etc.--generally for 4 months at least--until my stomach was back to normal.

When my gastritis gets going, morning is the most uncomfortable time. It actually feels better when there is food in my stomach.

I don't know if your situation is in any way similar to my situation, but I thought it might give you some ideas.
Good luck, and feel better!
Denise

nmcvicke
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   Posted 4/9/2009 6:58 PM (GMT -6)   

Thanks for the response.  I had never heard of Gastritis before and I looked that up a little and that sounds similar to my symptoms as well as GERD.  I got real sick on Tuesday after not feeling good for a few days as a result of going to my best friends bachelor party where I drank more than I ever have before (normally just a 1 or 2 drink type of person).  Seeing as how Gastritis can be caused by alcohol I will make sure to mention that to my GI Specialist when I see him in 10 days.  Hopefully he'll have more answers for me.  I'm just getting real frustrated with it sometimes and I appreciate your help and advice.

 

Nic


dencha
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   Posted 4/10/2009 9:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Nic,
I have/had GERD which has been exacerbated by gastritis to the point of burning my esophagus and causing horrible asthma that was uncontrollable. Chronic asthma was what led me to the GERD surgery (Nissen Fundoplication), which has really helped my asthma. My GERD is under control, but I'm still struggling with gastritis. I'm fortunate to have a wonderful family doctor who knows me very well, and works hard to help me heal my stomach.

Hopefully your doctor will help you get to the bottom of your stomach. Until then, baby your stomach (no bachelor parties!). Maybe you can get it feeling better.
Take care, and heal well!
Denise

chambershex
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   Posted 4/16/2009 6:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey nmcvickle, the symptoms your describe are almost identical to mine. I've had my 'condition' now for over 2 years so I might be able to give you a head start on what I think is going on... The loss of appetite feeling you get in morning I would guess is caused by stomach/esophageal inflammation. From my experience whenever I feel nauseous, or have any other gastrointestinal symptoms (excessive gas etc.), it seems to overide my appetite. Once I have been able to reduce pressure in/on my stomach by belching or passing wind, the loss of appetite/nausea subsides (takes about to the middle of the afternoon like you). For a normal system increased gas etc. shouldn't cause a problem, but it is likely you have some gastritis and/or esophagitus which is sensitive to pressure (even if this doesn't show up on gastroscopy - although mine did). I still, after all this time, am a bit baffled as to the exact reason why we feel worse in the morning (as are all the numerous specialists I've visited), but it is possible it is caused by a few factors:

-Build up of gas in your system overnight. Also take notice of the amount your swallowing - reflux can cause a thing caused waterbrash (rush of saliva from your salivary glands), which naturally makes you swallow more. Swallowing also causes air ingestion (i.e. gas). However, if you find you are swallowing a fair bit, do not spit, as saliva contains alkaline chemicals which can neutralise acid (which is why waterbrash occurs).
-Overnight acid exposure. I have personally never consciously experienced night time reflux, but it is possible. Eating three hours before bed is good, but also try and sleep on your left side, and definately not flat on your stomach.
-Some unknown neurological problems. It might be possible that there is some malfunction in the regulation of stress hormones, which effect our bodies metabolism in the morning. This is all speculative, however.

Now to the practical stuff; you probably have GERD, so it is a good idea that you are on a PPI to try and heal your gastritis. Give it time, for me it took about 6 weeks to heal. Also make sure your take it in the morning, not at night. If you take it at night I found it would wear off by the next day. You mentioned the 'rebound' effect when you stopped - do NOT stop cold turkey (the acid rebound will undo all of the weeks of healing in a few days). What you have to do to minimise rebound effects is, at the end of your treatment lower the dosage for about a week (assuming your dosage is not the lowest possible) and eat ONLY bland, simple foods for this time. If it is already the lowest dosage, switch to a H2 antagonist for a week instead (e.g. zantac) and once again, only bland foods should be consumed. The best staple food is rice. Avoid tomato, alcohol, fatty foods, spicy foods, garlic, onion, chocolate, minimal dairy, minimal red meat for one week. Then after that gradually introduce stuff back in. And most importantly, really try not to think about it when you come of the meds, try to be as occupied as possible for that time period.

And thats all for now! If you have any other queries, feel free to ask. But for god sake, do as much exercise, be as socially active, and happy as possible in this period. Do not let this thing get chronic. Trust me. Don't let it wear you down.

nmcvicke
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   Posted 4/16/2009 9:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks a ton for you guys advice. I will try to abide by most of it. I sure do miss beer though! Hopefully I will be able to get back to normal lifestyle soon! Will Gas-x help with build up?

dencha
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   Posted 4/16/2009 6:42 PM (GMT -6)   
No Beer! You'll have to baby your stomach until it has felt healed for quite a while. It'll be worth it in the long run. I agree that it'll take a few months (maybe about 4 or so). The longer you baby it, the sooner it will be cured.
I miss the beer, too! Hopefully you'll respond quickly.
Good luck!
Denise

chambershex
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   Posted 4/16/2009 6:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm not sure if those anti-gas meds work. I think the best bet is to try and avoid taking any other medication other than the PPI. Just try to watch out for gas producing foods. Here is a useful link http://www.med.umich.edu/fbd/docs/Gas%20reduction%20diet.pdf 
 
 

nmcvicke
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   Posted 4/29/2009 1:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I went to the GI Specialist a week ago Monday and we set up a time to get a scope. He thinks it might either be a virus that gave me gastritis or irritated stomach, or barrett's esophagus, or an ulcer of some sort.

He also put me on Align Probiotic which I took for a week but really just turned into more of a setback I believe than anything. I was doing much better before I took it and the week I took it turned out to be the worst week I've had in a month. I stopped taking it after a week and I think I'm still slowly recovering from it but I believe it might have been a setback. It gave me some flu like symptoms and diarrhea which I hadn't had yet. Is it possible for a probiotic to setback healing from gastritis or an ulcer?

Also I was wondering why it says on the back of Maalox to not use if you have an ulcer. I've been using it probably around once a day depending on how I'm doing and I wasn't sure if I should be concerned since I might have an ulcer to avoid it. Maalox seems to help a TON!

I've also been suffering a lot from anxiety and fear for the last few days because of my symptoms getting worse since I had been doing so well. I've been on Lorazpham for that (.5mg) and it seems to help with the anxiety, and a little with the fear. I'm just scared I will never be able to enjoy life like I used to if something like this is actually chronic!

Nic

nmcvicke
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   Posted 5/4/2009 7:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I think taking my align caused me to have another bout of Acid Reflux. I have finally recovered from it (one week later). I still sometimes suffer from Anxiety (comes and goes) however as well as a loss of appetite most of the time which I believe is in conjunction with my bloating/feeling of fullness.

I am on Omeprazole twice a day at the moment. My parents seem to think I have suffered from a major bug and am slowly recovering. Any thoughts?

Also does anyone else suffer from anxiety/fear/depression as a result of their stomach ailments?

beareilly
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   Posted 5/4/2009 9:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi guys,
Like Denise,I am scheduled for surgery oon thurs.I have had my share of nausea,loss of appetites,gerd asthma,gerd stricture and gerd backwash and constant horrific taste on my tongue.Along the course of the way,I had h pylori.I am still nausea and loss of appetite. I have been on every med and now it comes down 2surgery.I have serious nitetime gerd however I get it 24hours but more in the night.I tried every method known 2man.
I wish u all good luk
Bea

doloro
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   Posted 5/5/2009 3:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I only get nightime GERD symptoms (usually about 2-3 hours after I go to bed) - so bad that I have to sit up in bed or walk around for hours. Mornings are usually fine. Strangely I find sleeping on my stomach is best and I try and turn slowly in the night - worst thing to do is turn quickly?
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