Esophageal spasms with weight loss - acupuncture, anyone?

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Uncle Leo
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   Posted 7/28/2009 8:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello everyone,
I've had esophageal spasms for about 9 months now.  It was diagnosed through a manometry, a horrible test, but useful if you're having problems swallowing.  the gi can really learn a lot from this test!
 
Unfortunately, with the esophageal spasms I've had nausea and vomiting and have lost about 45 lbs in the past 7-8 months!
 
I've had all sorts of test to try to figure out why I have the vomiting and nausea and everything's come back negative.  So it seems it's the spasms that aren't allowing the food to go down, and eventually, they come back up, along with everything else in the stomach!
When I say I've had a lot of tests, I mean, endoscopy, cat scans (abdomen and head - to rule out neurological problems), cancer testing, 24 ph test, ultrasounds, esophagrams...you name it!
 
I've been put on all sorts of medicine, from motility drugs to proton pump inhibitors (about 4 different ones - noene helped), recently anti-depressant, as well as calcium channel blockers and even nitrates (not all these drugs at once of course!)  And nothing seems to work! I continue to lose weight.  I may go a day or two where I don't throw up, and then all of a sudden it's like it flares up and I can't eat or drink anything.
 
I even had one GI that told me not to come back because he didn't have an answer for me! (he shouldn't even have a license!)
 
Finally, last week, I decided to try acupuncture, and went to my first treatment yesterday.  The acupuncturist also gave me some herbs to drink.  It's only been one day and she told me I may not feel a difference after the first treatment, but so far, I feel different.  I feel like I have more energy and I haven't thrown up or felt nauseous. Now, I'm still getting full quickly, and still feel a lump like some food is stuck, but it's gone away after a little while!
 
I'm going back for a second treatment on Thursday...let's hope this is really helping.
 
Well, I just wanted to share, and would love to hear if anyone else has had a similar problem, or has tried acupuncture and if it's helped.

dencha
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   Posted 7/28/2009 10:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Uncle Leo,
Welcome to the GERD forum! I'm sorry to hear that you've been suffering for so long without getting help from your doctors. While I've never had an acupuncture treatment, I've heard that they can be amazingly effective. I definitely think it's worth a try...you've given the doctors every opportunity to help you, and they've failed. It's very hopeful that you've already noticed some relief. I truly hope that you continue to respond to the treatments. Acupuncture is an ancient medical treatment, and it hasn't been around all these years without being effective!

Please be sure to keep us posted with your acupuncture treatment and response. If it helps you, I think a lot of people may want to give it a try.
Hopefully someone will respond to you soon, and who knows...maybe someone here has tried acupuncture!
Again welcome. This is a very active forum, and you'll get lots of support, encouragement, and information here!
Best wishes!
Denise

Uncle Leo
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   Posted 7/29/2009 10:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Den,

It's just frustrating that none of the medicine have worked. My current doctor seems to have done all the appropriate tests, and medicines, so it's not like I don't think he's trying or even dong a bad job... he's even suggesting I may want to try botox injections.

I even have an appointment for another GI next month, but I'm not sure what else he's going to do that hasn't already been tried!

That's why I'm trying an alternative. I was able to have a pretty good meal last night, a day after acupuncture, but today I'm not feeling great. Having some spasms and mucus. But at least I haven't thrown up!

Let's hope the acupuncture helps. I have to stay positive and believe it will! I'll do another post after my next session too.
Spasms are bad...


Uncle Leo
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   Posted 7/31/2009 8:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Had my second Acupuncture session, so I thought I'd give an update, in case anyone's interested. Would still love to hear if anyone else has tried it!

The day after my first treatment I was feeling more energetic. That night I was able to eat pretty well, a grilled chicken cutlet, and rice and beans. For me, in the past 6-7 months, that's a lot. Lately I would have to have either just the chicken (and maybe not even the whole thing!), or just the rice and beans, or I'd end up throwing up.

The second day was like a took a small step back, but wasn't as bad as I'd been. Just didn't feel as well, and couldn't eat dinner. I had the herbal tea the acupuncturist gave me, and I felt better afterwards - was even able to eat a little bit. Before I would spend literally 24 hours w/out being able to eat or drink anything! so this is an improvement.

One thing the acupuncturist told me was if I threw up, to try to eat a little bit again after a while, even if it's just a small cup of soup.

Now, I had my second acupuncture treatment yesterday, so let's see how the next few days go.

I'm still not feeling 100%, but I'm doing so much better than I was, just last week! I'm down to 45 lbs lost in about 9 months! and I wasn't even that overweight. I'm weighing 155, and I'm 5'10"

I'm going to be going twice a week for a little while, then once a week after that, and I have herbs that I have to take every day.

Sorry for droning on... Let me know if I should continue posting my progress - if anyone's interested. And if you've tried acupuncture, please let me know how it worked for you!

Uncle Leo
Spasms are bad...


stkitt
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   Posted 7/31/2009 8:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello and welcome to HealingWell.  I have been off for a few days on vacation but I am so glad to see you have joined us.
 
I also am very interested in your accupuncture.  My sister used accupuncture when she had cancer to help with her pain control. 

On HealingWell we strive to seek a balance between alternative and traditional approaches. I feel strongly, both approaches have value for anyone seeking healing.

Please do continue to share your progress with your accupuncture treatments.

I wish you peace,

Kitt


 

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Uncle Leo
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   Posted 8/2/2009 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, took a step back today. My esophageal spasms have taken the better of me. Haven't been able to eat or drink anything since about 10am this morning.

When I get to this point, I can't even drink anything, and I feel thirsty and weak. In the past it's taken anywhere from half a day to 2 days!

Not giving up on acupuncture yet, as I know it takes a while.

Meds haven't helped any, so...

Anyone else have bad esophageal spasms ot the point you can't eat or drink?
Spasms are bad...


Uncle Leo
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   Posted 8/4/2009 8:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Had my third acupuncture session yesterday. After feeling sick most of the weekend cause of the spasms, I feel better today. Not perfect, but better.

Asked the acupuncturist why I basically took a step back and felt worse, and she said that my problem is with the nerves that control the esophagus. they are causing the spasms. She said some days I'll feel better, and some days worse, but over time with the treatment it will get better. It's like a line moving up, but the line is not straight, it'll go up and down.

Gotta keep the positive attitude!
Spasms are bad...


stkitt
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   Posted 8/4/2009 8:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for the update and I do believe your acupuncturist is right. This is one of those disorders where you will take 2 steps forward and one step back. 
 
Keeping your good attitude is a plus to dealing with this disorder.  I am glad to hear you felt better after acupuncture tx.
I look forward to hearing how you continue to do with your treatments.
Kind regards,
Kitt
 
 
 

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