Some GERD Questions for you all

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mikex
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   Posted 8/6/2009 7:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello,

Recently, I've been having heartburn in the early mornings around 2 am - 5 am. I never have it any other time of day, and feel perfectly normal at any other time - no upset stomach, no heartburn, no problems. When I finally get up in the morning and eat breakfast, it utterly disappears, not to return for 24 hours. I have done a lot of research on it lately. I tried several over the counter meds before bed (Maalox, Gaviscon, Pepto-Bismol, Tums, and tried a PPI - Omeprazole - for 14 days) and none helped much. I raised my bed 4.5 inches at the head and it didn't help. Then last night I got up after feeling it, and went to sleep in my Lazy Boy chair, which can raise my upper body a lot more, and that stopped it cold.

So ... it seems the solution is going to be mechanical for me, since GERD can't be "cured". I am going to look for a bed wedge today that can raise my bed even more to duplicate the effect of sleeping in the chair.

Any other suggestions though for over-the-counter that can get me back to horizontal? What about Famotidine? What about any combinations of drugs? Any home remedies?

stkitt
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   Posted 8/6/2009 8:01 AM (GMT -6)   

Hello Mike and welcome to HealingWell and the GERD/Heartburn Forum. I am so glad you found us.

Due to how your stomach is situated, try lying  on your left side. This reduces acid traveling back through the esophageal valve between the stomach and the esophagus.

For some people who suffer from indigestion or heartburn that keeps them up at night eating a red apple after dinner helps. Apples have been known to work wonders.

You may want to discuss the heartburn with your physician as perhaps another PPI taken at bedtime would be helpful for you.

Wishing you the best,
Kitt


 

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dencha
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   Posted 8/6/2009 8:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mikex,
Welcome to the GERD forum. There are lots of people here who've experienced the same symptoms you're struggling with. I'm sure you'll get many other helpful responses.

I think you could raise your bed a bit more. Have you checked out the bed risers at Bed Bath and Beyond? They're cheaper than the ones at a medical supply store, but they'd have them as well. I found a combination of bed risers AND a wedge to be the only thing that really worked when I was at my worst. Actually, I used the raisers, and added some boards under them. The only problem with the wedge, is that you can slide down, which puts your back into a bad position, and can cause it to hurt. I still used it for years.

Did you take the Prilosec about a half hour before dinnner? If not, you might try that. I always kept a bottle of Maalox handy. Also, a swig of water was very helpful.

Nighttime GERD symptoms is very common, because if you LES isn't working, the gravity that keeps the acid in the stomach isn't helpful when laying down. The acid can reflux right up into your esophagus when you're lying down. The fact that your symptoms are helped when sleeping in the recliner is pretty good evidence that your LES is loose and not doing its job.

I don't know of anything (other than the Nissen Fundoplication surgery--which I had on February 27th--and many others here have had) to get you back to horizontal. Joy (couchtater) here, is scheduled for an alternative procedure called Esophyx, which is very new. My GI doc didn't like the procedure, because it is so new and it doesn't have a track record yet. She's lucky enough to live in an area where there is an experienced surgeon doing it, so we're looking forward to hearing her story!

Best of luck in finding an answer to your GERD problems. We've all been there! Members of this forum will do their best to answer your questions, and offer support and encouragement. You're in a good place!
Take care,
Denise

mikex
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   Posted 8/6/2009 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
OK thanks for the suggestions so far!

On apples, yea I just Googled GERD + apples and saw a lot of hits about that, also apple cider vinegar too. I'll put it on my list to try tonight.

On raising my bed, I called a local med supply store and they said they have wedge pillows. If I raise my bed any more with blocks or whatnot it's going to start looking pretty weird! Or I can sleep in the chair for a while - the cats seemed to get a kick out of me doing that.

On the doc, yea if I can't "fix" it myself (it looks like I'm onto a solution that will work) I'll go see him, but I am going to retire early in a couple of months and I'll have to buy my own health insurance. My record is pretty clean now and I don't want this condition in my medical records yet, because I don't want anything to make my chances on buying health ins. at a good rate to be hindered. Such is the way it is with our screwed up health ins. industry. I'll let you know how it goes.

stkitt
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   Posted 8/6/2009 8:37 AM (GMT -6)   

Mike,

Sounds like you are dealing with your heartburn very proactively...........good for you.

I understand about the medical insurance.  I took early retirement too but was lucky enough to be able to be added to my husbands health insurance.  Lost my dental thow and his insurance would not allow me to have dental.  You are right, health insurance is a tough issue for many.

Please do keep on talking with us............we love new members and we are all here to help each other.

Kitt


mikex
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   Posted 8/6/2009 11:00 AM (GMT -6)   
One thing I don't understand.

Acid is in the stomach - OK.
Acid is getting up into the esophagus causing heartburn - OK.
What I don't get is why, after taking an antacid, doesn't it stop the heartburn? Aren't they neutralizing the acid? If not, why not?

couchtater
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   Posted 8/6/2009 6:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Sometimes it's not strong enough. I take two 40mg of nexium and a 300 zantac and still have trouble. Sometimes I'll even have to eat 8 tums on top of it! Good luck.

Joy

mikex
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   Posted 8/6/2009 6:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow couchtater! I'm a long way from taking that much, but I might end up there. We'll see what happens tonight with my new 12" wedge pillow.

dencha
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   Posted 8/6/2009 7:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mikex,
Your wedge should help a lot...the only problem will be that you'll need to reposition yourself from time to time during the night, because it's natural to slide down a bit. Good luck, and sweet dreams!
Hope you get a great night's sleep. Keep that Maalox and water next to the bed, just in case!
Goodnight...
Denise

mikex
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   Posted 8/7/2009 4:58 AM (GMT -6)   
The wedge worked! No acid pain in the morning! But oh boy it sure wasn't pleasant to sleep on. The store said I could exchange it for another size if I wished. I am going to take it back and try a 10". If that works it should be more comfortable, if it doesn't work, then I can just get the 12" again and learn to live with it.

dencha
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   Posted 8/7/2009 5:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Glad to hear it, Mikex! My wedge is about 7-8", so there are other options as well. Hopefully the 10" will be just the ticket!
Have a great day1
Denise

mariex800
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   Posted 8/7/2009 1:29 PM (GMT -6)   
 
Hi Denise,
Do you still need to sleep on a wedge after surgery?
I am sleeping on a 16" - but not much fun.
I kept on sliding off of it.  Some nite, I am ok - and some - I find myself up quite a bit...
Marie

couchtater
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   Posted 8/7/2009 4:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I found a solution to sliding off my wedge... Put it under the top mattress. I don't slide off and don't get back spasms from the bending.

Joy

mariex800
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   Posted 8/7/2009 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
 
That is a great idea :)
Thanks.
Marie

dencha
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   Posted 8/7/2009 7:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Marie,
I still have our bed elevated, and don't sleep on a wedge any more. I'm so used to having the head of the bed up that it seems really strange to sleep flat. Because of the many years I've slept elevated, it just feels more comfortable to me! My husband has GERD, too, so he likes it up.

When we sleep on a flat bed, I usually use my wedge, just because I'm accustomed to it. There have been times since my surgery that I've eaten too late, and the pressure on my wrap is uncomfortable, so the wedge has been useful at those times. I don't use it to stop reflux--just because it feels more comfortable to me. Go figure. Mine isn't very high though--maybe 6 inches high.

Before surgery,when I was on a flat bed, I'd have to put a bunch of pillows under the wedge, and on top of it, too-- to get myself up to almost sitting. Now it's just the wedge, and no extra pillows. It's so much more comfortable.

I guess I'm just a creature of habit!
Take care and have a great night!
Denise
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