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rlopez75
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   Posted 8/11/2009 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   
 I had my lap nissen fundoplication yesterday at 7:30 am At USC Medical Ceneter. I'm still verry dizzy, and feel verry weak. The hospital has WiFi scool   Last nite was the most painful nite of my existance. I guess they inject air in your body in order to extend your insdies so the doctor can see what hes working on. The bloated pain was awfull and I couldnt pass the gass. I also hadnt eaten since sunday nite and my stomach was cramping really bad. [b]But I could burp and swallow instantly[/b]. Best of all my palpitations went away!!! They started my liquid diet this morning and had me walk and that kick started my bowels and was able to pass the gass. From 1 to 10 I'm a 2-3 for pain rite now with liquid Viccatin.
 
They keep shooting me up with morphene last nite so I stil feel loopy. nono
 
 
FOr those waiting on their surgery, its well owrth it. I feel some what normal again all ready and the burning and esophogial spasms are a thing of the past now.
 
sorry for any typos or bad spelling. i'm still verry loopie. Just wanted to report the success. turn wink tongue yeah

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opnwhl4
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   Posted 8/11/2009 1:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Congrats! Welcome to the club. Don't worry about being loopy and writing here. I sure had my bad days and nights of typing. The pain from the gas is horrible, but will subside. The more you walk the faster it should go away.
Isn't WiFi great at the hospital! Kept me from going insane.

Take care,
Bill

rlopez75
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   Posted 8/11/2009 2:11 PM (GMT -6)   
They gave me an italian icee with lunch and i ate a bit and now i feel bloated again. I walked 2 laps around the floor and now am ready for a nap...the surgeon told my wife my innards were verry inflamed.

The doctors aid told me i might be going home today. I rather stay one more day but he made a good point about infections here. Don want that.

wiFi is my savior. I havte watching "hospital" tv so this is awsome.

Thank you Bill.

dencha
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   Posted 8/11/2009 2:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi rlopez,
Congratulations on becoming a member of the "Wrapped Club"! You were so smart to bring your laptop to the hospital. I don't even know if they had wi-fi in the hospital. My night at the hospital involved lots of walks around the nurse's station. My night nurse got me right up to walk, to ensure that the gas pains would subside. She told me to get up and walk whenever I went to the bathroom. I continued the walking on a treadmill at home, so my gas/shoulder pain was very minimal. I would recommend that you walk as much as possible.

I don't know if you're still in the hospital, or are already home, but you should definitely get some Gas-X. You can take that as much as you'd like--more than what the box says. I think that you'll find it helpful with the gas. Of course (I'm sure you know) that the Gas-X only works on your GI tract, not on the loose gas in your body. A nurse in the hospital thought I wanted the Gas-X to relieve the leftover pumped in gas. Duh.

Keep posting your experience!
We'll be here cheering you on!

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Denise

racinrays
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   Posted 8/11/2009 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Congrats!! Wishes for a speedy recovery!!

Ronee'

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   Posted 8/11/2009 5:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Hooray for you! Hope your feeling well soon.

Joy

rlopez75
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   Posted 8/11/2009 5:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Thansk guys. The pressure has subsided to about 10%. I have been walking quite a bit today. My nite nurse wasnt the best, last nite. I was telling her of how much pain I was in and she would just stand there and look at me.

I'm getting released today. my surgeon came by today and told me I was doing better so he rather get me out of here instead of sticking around and risk infection.

I sure will keepposting my recovery. More of us need to comment on how well this surgery can go. Too many horror stories out there.

LdyJane
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   Posted 8/11/2009 6:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Congratulations and stay with us as you go through your recovery. The gas-x does work on all of the gas, even the stuff that caused the shoulder pain with me...I took so much of it, I bought stock in the company!

This website, healingwell, is the only website I stayed with, primarily because of the great people with great information; other websites just have constant bickering and naysayers..got away from them very quickly!

Feel better soon! and welcome to the happily wrapped club! (btw, I'm 13 months on mine!)
Janice

k9lov3r
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   Posted 8/11/2009 8:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hope you have a speedy recovery. I am scheduled for the 19th. Hap al my preops and everything so for is a go. I am starting to get a cold so am pushing the vitamin c and starting on some antibiotics. I hope I kick this cold ecause I son't want to have to postpone this. I have a rough time with colds because of the acid reflux they get a hold of me and won't let up. I have a constant sore throat and cough from the gerd so am hoping I cna keep the runny nose at bay so far I am not running any temperature so that is a plus. I see you spent the night in the hospital I was hoping to go home after the surgery but am now accepting the fact that I will probably be spending the night. I met with the anestheologist today and she thought I was spending the night but was not sure since it was being done laproscopically. Take care of yourself.
Mary

opnwhl4
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   Posted 8/12/2009 5:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Hopefully you are at home resting now. Remember to go slow with the foods and chew, chew, chew!

Mary, I would bet you will stay atleast one night and possibly 2 depending on how things go. My first one I had to stay 3 days and I was only supposed to stay 2 days with the redo. That didn't happen! Good luck with yours on the 19th.

Take care,
Bill

stkitt
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   Posted 8/12/2009 7:48 AM (GMT -6)   

Good Morning rlopez,

Congratulations........you are now a certified member of the Wrapped Club.  I was so happy to read you may be going home today.........whoooo hoooooooo.  That is awesome and I am sure you are thrilled to be feeling better already.

I am glad to hear they gave you treats, an italian icee.  Just like going to the Mall,  LOL.

Sorry your night nurse was in a funk and was not much support. (((((((((((Hugs)))))))))))))

Keep on posting your recovery as we are all here to support you and cheer you on.

Take care and keep moving forward.

Kitt


 

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rlopez75
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   Posted 8/12/2009 10:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you guys. I'm at home now, as of last nite. I feel very weak, dizzy and verry bloated. More in my stomach than my chest. But I still cant take a deep breath. pretty nausous too so i'm taking the meds every 4 hours for that. I'm only taking the vicotin at nite to sleep longer.

I ate a 1/2 cup of broth last nite and 1/2 a jello cup and then took 15ML of liquid vicotin and felt like I was going to explode when I went to bed. I cant believe how little intake my stomach can take right now. its like my whole digestive system is starting life over again.

This did a lot more for me mentally than physically. Though I feel drowzy, weak, and in a bit of pain, it in no way compares to how I used to feel with the hernia and acid in my chest. I started to get palpitations again today but its because i started to lay down flatter than at the hospital and I'm really bloated and my innards are still swollen. I can feel the pressure over my heart. Not too worried about them though, like I used to.

For you guys with the GasX, do you swallow the gell caps? Has any one tried taking Mylanta? I'm affraid the caps will get stuck and hurt.My nissen seems to have tighetend up a bit due to imflamaiton. I'm guessing this because it feels tighter now that I have started to eat every 4 hours. Even the syrapy liquid vicotin gets a bit stuck. My Surgeon said it would get better once the swelling went down in a few weeks. or he would dialate it with a GI scope.

opnwhl4
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   Posted 8/12/2009 2:42 PM (GMT -6)   
It will swell quite a lot over the next couple weeks or so. That's normal. Don't get to anxious to have it dilated. I went that route the first time and it doesn't feel very good. How much you can eat will be drastically less for a few weeks. Not only because of the swelling, but your stomach is smaller now from the wrap. A 1/2 cup of broth and jello is quite a lot for the first few days.
Things may seem to get worse for a few days, but it will get better about week 2 or so.

Take care,
Bill

rlopez75
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   Posted 8/12/2009 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you all for te kind words.

Thank you Bill. You allways have great input!

My surgeon told me to stay away from all meats, all grains, and anything highly acidic or carbonated. He said I could "experiment" and see what would go down comfortable from there on out. So I have mixed some apple juice with Danimals drinkable yogurt and Gerber fruits. I take a few sips with a straw of each staggerd every couple of hours or when my stomach starts to moan. Using a starw helps to limit the amount of air being swallowed as well.

My wife will be heading out later in the evening to get me some Swansons low sodium broths. My sister made me some killer chicken breast broth yesterday but it gets bland after a while.

LdyJane
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   Posted 8/12/2009 5:41 PM (GMT -6)   
chewable gas-x!!

Take it easy with food, let your stomach rule you right now, not your head! and if you need to eat a small amount 6-10 times a day, so be it! I'm surprised about the straw, they were outlawed with my surgeon. A tip to help as you go: sip or drink very warm to hot liquids before trying to eat anything; it helps to relax the muscles in your esophagus and allows the food to go done much more smoothly that way. Make sure you eat very small bites and chew the beejeebies out of everything!!!

Janice

mariacarole
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   Posted 8/12/2009 6:45 PM (GMT -6)   
RLopez,
Good luck, sounds like you are progressing normally.  Today is my 3 week anniversary.  I too felt really awful for the first 3 or 4 days and couldn't get comfortable.  I was a little nervous when the Dr sent me home after only one night, but was glad for the peace and quiet of home.  Good luck with the food.  I have found small, teeny amounts are the best way to go.  I am fitting into my
"skinny" clothes now.  Still not 100 percent, but then I am a senior citizen!  God luck with the recovery.  This is a good forum.  Everyone is supportive and sharing.  Have a restful night and a good day tomorrow.
Mariacarole

dencha
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   Posted 8/12/2009 7:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Rlopez,
Yes, as Janice says...chewable Gas-X. I sent my husband for Gas-X and he came home with all kinds--gel caps, some strips that melt on your tongue...my favorite is the chewable, though. Have your wife look very carefully at the boxes, and not to give up. It DOES come in chewable!

My doctor sent me home on soft foods...I ate yogurt, egg custard, squash, applesauce, cream of wheat, mashed potatoes and low-fat turkey gravy (we have a good source in the area--some store-bought gravies are not too good). I made myself a bunch of chicken broth, but never used it all. I went back to my surgeon on Day 5, and he moved me to eating "anything that can be chewed to a liquid"--which is pretty much anything. I even bought Carnation Instant Breakfast, but never needed to use it. It's just important to take small bites and chew a lot.

Yes, your stomach capacity goes down tremendously--it doesn't take much to fill you up in the beginning. My surgeon said it's because there is swelling in the stomach, and that swelling is interpreted as fullness.

I've always heard that straws actually increase the amount of air you are getting in your stomach, because when you sip through a straw you get all the air in the straw as well. Are you sure you heard the directions correctly? That would run counter to everything that I've ever head. In fact, I'm 5 months post op, and I still pass up straws when I eat out.

Toasted bread is much easier to chew to liquid than untoasted. Crackers chew easily as well. Chicken chews to a liquid really easily. I also make a pot roast in the crock pot, along with potatoes and carrots. It cooked for hours, and even the beef was very easily chewed to a liquid. Even if you didn't want to try the beef, the carrots and potatoes would be tasty and soft. I intended to eat just the veggies, then tried the beef and found it fine.

I agree with Bill...don't jump the gun and go for an endoscopy/dilatation. Your doctor could actually do some harm if everything is going well. I read a post from someone who was doing just fine until the wrap was dilated, then she started getting reflux. As Bill said, it's normal for your wrap to become increasingly swollen over the next two weeks, so don't be surprised if your swallowing gets a bit more difficult before it gets easier again. Also, I remember Day 4 was a challenge for me...don't know if that's common, but don't worry...that too will pass.

Don't worry about the little aches and pains, or even a bit of "reflux" feelings that might pop up from time to time. They're all a part of the healing process, and will resolve over time. Also, the smaller stomach capacity changes...by about 3-4 months, I was back to normal.

Good luck! Hang around this forum! Your posts chronicling your recovery will be very helpful to others who are trying to make the decision to go ahead with the surgery. We're here to support you and cheer you on! yeah yeah yeah
Have a great night!
Denise

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dencha
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   Posted 8/12/2009 7:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mariacarole,
Sounds like you're doing great! Congratulations on your three week anniversary! You made it past the two-week swelling, and came out the other side! It's very normal to still be recovering at 3 weeks...whether you're a "senior citizen" or not!

You'll get feeling stronger and stronger, and your eating will get more and more normal. I think it's always important to continue to eat slowly and chew carefully, though. I'm still, at 5 months, chewing very carefully. I'm finding that certain things irritate my wrap--part of my problem is that I have a very reactive and sensitive stomach, and since the wrap is made from my stomach, it doesn't take much to get it going.

Overall, though, my recovery is still so much easier than I ever expected. I'm actually having to think about watching what I eat, so I don't gain my weight back!

Hang in there...every week will get easier and easier. I just wish I'd found this forum long ago, so I could have avoided the steroids I used to keep my lungs going! Oh well, better late than never!
Take care and eat well!
Denise turn

rlopez75
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   Posted 8/12/2009 10:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks to all for the great insights! And thanks for clearing up the chewable gasx. I totally forgot about those because I used to use the mint gell caps.

No, I wont go for dialation premauturly because of what I have read now from you guys. I will give it time. I need to loose the 30 pounds I put on any ways.

When I use the straw I suck untill the liquid hits my tongue, hold pressre to the straw by plugging it with my tongue, and then bleed the air out the side of my mouth. I realize that swallowing the air displaced by the liquid would be counter productive. But I found a little system that, for me, seems to be working. My Surgeon did worn me but I tend to be a little hard headed at times..lol!

I have quit the Vicotin as it was making me feel worse. It took the pain away but for some reason would rase my heart rate when resting. I started taking childrens Tylenol when needed. And trust me, as bad and sweet as it is I rather deal with the bit of pain that I have with no drugs.

I have found that eating 1/4 to a 1/3rd cup every few hours works for me. I'm sticking to liquids for now. My stomach didnt like the gerber or Yogurt.


Even though its hard at times I'm keeping my cool and taking it easy when it comes to food. I rather deal with a bit of hunger than a bloated, painfull belly.

stkitt
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   Posted 8/13/2009 6:27 AM (GMT -6)   
rlopez,
Good Morning and I hope your day goes well. You have recieve great words of wisdome from our Wrappers. :-)
 
From my experience with any surgery the first couple of days usually go well and then the 3rd - 4th day out you start to feel pretty uncomfortable as your gastrontestinal tract tries  to kick-start itself.
 
I would really pace myself and rest when your body tells you to.  The members have provided you with sound info re diet.  I have also heard that staws are not a good think so perhaps not using one will decrease some of the bloating.
Congratulations for making it through the surgery and well on the road to recovery.
 
With kindest regards,
Kitt
 
 

 

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   Posted 8/13/2009 9:37 AM (GMT -6)   
rlopez-
I want to second what Denise said about breads. They should be one of the last things to add to your diet and toasted does go down WAY easier than non toasted. When you fel ready to try it, start with toast. I also decided to deal with some hunger issues than deal with the bloating when I first had this surgery. Seemed everytime I ate I swalolowed way too much air and was misserable for hours.

Take care,
Bill

rlopez75
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   Posted 8/13/2009 11:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you all again for all the great advice. I have kicked the straw to the curb following you guys advice. Sometimes ones prespective of things is blinded by pain, nausia and all that other good stuff related with the surgery. My wife is lso picking me up some chewable gasX today as its greatly needed.

Today is the worst so far with the painfull inflamation. I decided to start a low dose of Vicotin again taking it more frequently. My palpitations have started again as I can feel my inflamed esophogus resting against my heart, like before the surgery. But I'm being patient knowing that its just part of healing thanks to you guys advice who have had the surgery. If it wasnt for you guys being here to help, I would be freaking out thinking the surgery made it worse. But instead I'm taking retreat in my cozy and comfortable bed, resting.

Again, thank you all. This forum is a god send. I cant waite untill i can help others once my recovery is over the way you guys have helped me.

Rafael

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   Posted 8/13/2009 1:41 PM (GMT -6)   
goodluck keep us up to dated and im glad to hear all is well!:)
griff

opnwhl4
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   Posted 8/13/2009 8:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Rafael-
Very wise decision to be patient. With that you have won half the battle to recovery already. Mind set may be more than half of it actually. When things get overbearing try to remember the long journey you have made and what is waiting ahead. Things do get better and it usually happens without realizing it. If you need to vent or just need to chat or what ever, don't hesitate. Don't hesitate to email either, mine is one my profile and open to all. Those of us who have been through this and some that haven't, understand it's not an easy thing to go through.
I was hoping you would get back to the pain meds if you needed to. It is better to deal with the side effects and stay confortable. Things will seem much worse if your also uncomfortable. I know several people who didn't need hardly any pain meds for this, I wasn't one of them with either one. I beleive I am like Barb and feel pain more maybe. I actually was doing a lot better the first 3 days wth the redo and really didn't have much pain from the insicions, but the holes that leaked hurt so bad I probably wouldn't have noticed them anyway.
If you don't feel up to finding your way here once in a while we do undewrstand and will be waiting here when you can. Now go relax and rest as much as your body needs to. This was a major surgery and it will take a tole on your body.

Take care,
Bill

Post Edited (opnwhl4) : 8/14/2009 6:31:21 AM (GMT-6)


rlopez75
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   Posted 8/13/2009 9:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Bill, finding my way to this forum is what I look forward to every evening before I "dose up" and retreat for the nite.

The surgery its self is decieving because of the five small cuts that apear on the outside. They stiched me on the inside and "glued" the skin so with out my shirt it deosnt look bad at all. I guess thats what was driving me a little nuts in the beginning. It was hard to accept that even though I felt so much better the fisrt couple of days, that it was major surgery. Now I have accepeted it. I also have accepted that I will be hungry and in pain for a while and am comfortable with that as well.

You have to remember that most of you are old enough to be a parental figure to me. Please dont take offense to that as I was told that the majority of the people dealing with this are in their 50s or near it. This started for me when I was 23 years old. So In a way I missed out on a large part of my young adult life dealing with medical exams and misdiagnosis after misdiagnosis. So, in the last few days I have accepted that instead of trying to get back to everything that I missed I will take it slow and enjoy the rest of my life with out having to ever worry about this again.

When I get stressed at times I close my eyes and go away and imagine my self running on the beach with my kids. Its all the things that I want to do with them that help me deal with the mental drain that acompanies the surgery.

So, ill keep posting daily untill the surgery lets me get back to life even if you guys are tired of reading about my daily routine.

Thanks again,
Rafael
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