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cowboy22
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   Posted 10/12/2009 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Bile reflux.Im sure my gall bladder has issues after nissen.Drinking Water ,bowels slowed up,bile taste.Have had it tested today and waiting for results.My temp was abit low today and bp up until i drank water.Will i have this bile taste forever if i get gall bladder out. ive heard it could be dangerous to to have too much bile poisoning organs should i worry  cheers for help.

opnwhl4
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   Posted 10/13/2009 12:28 AM (GMT -6)   
What test did you have done?

Bill

cowboy22
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   Posted 10/13/2009 1:13 AM (GMT -6)   
have ultrasound tomorrow and bloods.woke up this morn heart tate up thirsty and feel chilled.bowels slow slight back pain.

opnwhl4
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   Posted 10/13/2009 2:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Ask for a hida scan if you can. The ultrasound will only tell if there are stones, but won't show how it is functioning. A hida scan will show how it fills and empties. This is very important. Mine had no stones, but wasn't working. Don't let them tell you if there aren't stones it is fine.

Bill

carotabi
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   Posted 10/14/2009 8:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello I am new here

Can Gallbladder problems come with Major acid refux...?
I have acid reflux for first time very bad and lots of pain in the right side and right below rib cage in the middle, I guess where the liver is...
I have the pain for a while, had an ultrasound in the ER, no stones, they told me it is stress and a muscle strain....I know it is not it

last week I had severe heartburn, like I had swallowed Vicks! Dr told me to take Prilosec, it helped with the burning but not with the acid reflux
I am now not able to eat anything, at times I had problems breathing...

I have HIDA test scheduled for Tuesday

Can Gallbladder problems other then stones cause Acide Reflux

AcidStorm
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   Posted 10/14/2009 11:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I'd like to know this too, my reflux is worsening day by day and I have some mild pain in my right ribs (gallbladder area). It is like a downward spiral. :(

opnwhl4
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   Posted 10/15/2009 1:41 AM (GMT -6)   
It surely can! We have discussed that fact that it seems a lot of gerd sufferers also have gallbladder issues. I have no idea why.
My gallbladder didn't have any stones either, but wasn't working. The hida scan showed that. I don't miss that dang thing. Caused me way too much pain for too long. It's been 4 years ago this month I had mine removed.

Bill

carotabi
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   Posted 10/15/2009 2:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Bill
so even after it was removed you still have problems with GERD?
it did not fix that just the pain?

stkitt
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   Posted 10/15/2009 3:30 PM (GMT -6)   

Howdy All,

There have been cases when after the gallbladder is removed the "acid reflux" goes away.  Having the diseased gallbladder removed does relieve a great deal of stress off the body and thus would reduce the build up of acid, as stress is one of the causes of acid reflux.

However there is no relationship between acid reflux and gallbladder disease, other than the fact that the diseases can give similar symptoms and therefore can be difficult to distinguish from one another.

 
While classic acid reflux disease will cause heartburn, at times it may only cause upper abdominal pain. When it does, the pain is usually located in the upper epigastric area, the region just below the breastbone in the center of the body.

Classic gallbladder pain is present in the right upper quadrant, below the ribs on the right side. At times it can radiate to the back or around the right side, and if the gallbladder is infected, may be associated with fever. If there is involvement of the bile duct, there may be jaundice or elevation of liver enzymes. In around fifty percent of patients with gallbladder disease, the pain can be in the epigastric area instead of the right upper quadrant. If there is no fever or liver enzyme abnormalities, this might be difficult to distinguish from acid reflux disease. While an ultrasound of the gallbladder can confirm gallstones, that does not mean that the symptoms are from gallstones.

Many times people will undergo surgical removal of the gallbladder and continue to have upper abdominal pain. Ultimately, it may be found that the symptoms are related to acid reflux disease. It  is important to try to rule out acid reflux disease prior to gallbladder removal, especially if there is no fever, jaundice or liver blood test abnormalities that would essentially rule out acid reflux disease.

Most people, in the absence of such findings, should undergo upper gastrointestinal endoscopy as well as treatment with a trial of acid-reducing agents such as proton pump inhibitors prior to gallbladder removal.

Dietary treatment can be beneficial in both conditions, with a low fat diet most appropriate for gallbladder disease, and a caffeine-free diet, with avoidance of lying flat after meals the best for acid reflux disease.

I hope this helps clarify the connection between the two diseases.

Gentle Hugs to all,

Kitt


stkitt
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   Posted 10/15/2009 3:36 PM (GMT -6)   

Bill,

I am with you on this one, I had gallbladder disease without stones and had my gallbladder removed.  My gallbladder was found to have sandy grit like material but no stones. This did not show up on test prior to surgery.
 My reflux  did not start until years later.

Hugs

Kitt


opnwhl4
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   Posted 10/15/2009 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
carotabi-
I still had the gerd symptoms, but the gallbladder pain went away. I had the GERD prior to having gall bladder issues. I don't mean to say that they are connected disease wise, but it is very common for someone to have gerd and gallbladder issues. Not necessarily at the same time.

Bill

carotabi
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   Posted 10/15/2009 10:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for posts and advices
going to GI tomorrow hope he will help me :)

stkitt
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   Posted 10/15/2009 10:21 PM (GMT -6)   

Hey there, I think Bill and I are trying to say the same thing and I am glad you are seeing a GI tomorrow.  :-)

I wish you the best of luck and hope you get your answer.

Kitt


 

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   Posted 10/18/2009 11:23 PM (GMT -6)   

stkitt
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   Posted 10/19/2009 5:27 AM (GMT -6)   

Hey Bill,

You are getting really good with Photobucket............now I will have to master that one..........  turn

carotabi,  Wondering how you made out at the GI appointment ?

Take care,

Kitt


 

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mariex800
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   Posted 10/20/2009 3:23 PM (GMT -6)   
 
I came across an article regarding to galdbladder thing.
It stated too long and too much use of PPI is the suspect of galdbladder issue.
I am not entirelly sure - just wondering if it is truth....
 
Cowboy,
After my surgery, I have really bad bitter taste too. I am taking carafat just to see if it alleviate my issue too... I believe it is bile reflux.
 
I recall one of my dr mention sour taste is --> Acide Reflux and bitter taste is Bile Reflux... All these crazy reflux such!
 
 

carotabi
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   Posted 11/8/2009 12:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Went to see GI
he was very rude so no more of this Dr
had a hida scan and scored 25%
Dr sent me to see the surgeon who said I needed to have GB removed
I had surgery MOnday
I still cannot eat
still have reflux and some heartburn
still take prosec for now.
I lost 28 lbs
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