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MinnesotaMark
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   Posted 12/2/2009 9:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi All. Glad I found this forum. I have been suffering from GERD for a number of years and have recently be diagnosed with a medium size Hiatal Hernia and Barrett's Esophagus- no dyspalsia. I currently take 40mg Prilosec and they work only if I eat smart. I don't plan to be on them forever- so in the past month I have aggressively researched and tested various natural remedies for chronic GERD and moderate to severe heartburn. I have found lots of different things that work for me (and collected concensus from the internet and friends as well). I thought I would share the list for other people to try. Obviously taking a holistic approach (smaller meals, less fatty foods, no big meals before bed, etc., etc.) is best- but occasionally you are going to eat something and you are going to get whacked! :-)

*Remember* what works for me might not work for you. You will need to experiment...

----*UGH* STOP the pain NOW remedies

D-limonene, 1000mg gelteb, 98.5% food grade orange peel extract.
Apple Cider Vinegar (must be raw, unpasteurized and unfiltered)- take 2tbsp with water and honey
Candied Ginger (3 x 1.5inch pieces best before meal- but can work after, just takes longer)

----Minor Pain, need something to soothe

Raw almonds, they must be raw, unsalted, etc. If they are roasted it will make HB worse
A few slices of green (grannies, etc.) and certain types of red apples (gala).
2-4oz. of Aloe Vera Juice- whole leaf or inner filet variety (Lily of the Valley is the brand I use)
2-3 fresh Celery stalks, chew slowly and well to release juices
Organic Ginger tea (1.5g concentration), after meals
Small banana
DGL (deglycerized licorice)

If you have your own natural remedies- add to this post.

Good luck and good health!
-MM

Nolique
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   Posted 12/3/2009 1:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Dear Mark,
 
Thank you so much for the great advice!  I have been trying to research natural alternatives as well and these are great!  Have you been taking PPI's for very long?  Do you get any rebound effect when you stop them?
 
Nolique

MinnesotaMark
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   Posted 12/4/2009 11:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Nolique,

I have taken Prilosec for about a month now. Prior to that I would take them on and off for the 2 week course- depending on how I felt. There is no doubt in my mind that I will see a rebound if I were to stop. I may try to wean down to 1 per day with some natural supplementation and change in diet. I am not sure I want to take these for the rest of my life and given that I have Barretts and a HH (both very curable) I will likely go for a Nissen and a Halo360 procedure.

MM

Alcie
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   Posted 12/5/2009 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mark -
You should go through the testing before demanding surgery. Find out if a fundoplication (whatever type) will help you.

I never had much luck with Prilosec. No one PPI works for everyone. I had good acid reduction with Nexium and Aciphex. The Nexium was covered by my insurance.

I believe in a change in diet, but mainly in finding out what I eat that causes the reflux, not adding supplements. Of course, if eating something works for you that's great. I just found that I had food triggers, eliminated them and have almost no reflux anymore. Unless I cheat and eat a doughnut or some chocolate. OK, a lot of chocolate! I was able to avoid surgery for many years even though I had a really bad LES. The Nexium stopped the acid and prevented damage. I only needed surgery after an accident pushed my stomach into my chest.

Now I have gas problems. Another thread!
Alcie
 
 


MinnesotaMark
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   Posted 12/6/2009 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Alcie-

Thanks for your suggestions. I agree. I am scheduled 01/19 to go through extensive testing at the Mayo clinic in Rochester. Even if I think that I am a candidate for the surgery they may tell me otherwise. I may not have any surgery other than for Barretts. Lifestyle changes- diet and excercise seem to be helping so far. I just hope that I am able to heal and with time go off the drugs. Hopefully, I have not done irreversible damage via my hiatus hernia.

MM

mattnapa
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   Posted 12/6/2009 10:03 PM (GMT -6)   
 A couple ofthe most important natural cures I would recomend are Glutamine, Magnesium and probiotics. In the probiotics realm Dr Ohhiras has an exceptional reputation. I myself am just getting ready to try them for the first time. Also if you take probiotics you need to get a good water filter to remove the chlorine which will kill many of the good bacteria otherwise

MinnesotaMark
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   Posted 12/6/2009 10:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Mattnapa- I have heard that about Magnesium too! Any idea about about the dosage? I am already taking probiotics- just started a couple of days ago- 5 Billion critters per day. Aside from drinking filtered water, I have also heard that you need to have a relatively acid free stomach as well. Could be wrong? MM

mattnapa
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   Posted 12/7/2009 6:51 PM (GMT -6)   
 Mark- You might want to check out author Martie Whittekin and her website and radio show at healthy by nature.com. She has archived Mp3's of her weekly radio show. There is a lot of great info there if you have MP3 technology, but there is a good deal of text material as well. And she is very much oriented towards digestive issues. As for the stomach acid question that is a big one. I was involved in a discussion on this topic at another message board (heartburn help forums), hopefully it is O.K to mention them. in general the message is that too little stomach acid is under-reported, and that full levels of stomach acid is neccesssary to digest properly and to kill of toxins and allergens which will otherwise creat less than optimal health. However with people suffering damage from reflux going to places itr is not supposed to be the quesytion becomes somewhat trickier. I am going to check into the magnesium question a little further before I answer. I have only been involved in this a couple of months and am just know trying to come u[p with a regimen, so some of the details are still escaping me.

mattnapa
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   Posted 12/7/2009 8:50 PM (GMT -6)   
 I think the Magnesium thing is going to be somewhat case dependent, and is complicated. If you check out Martie's info maybe we can compare notes. There is transdermal magnesium which seems to avoid some of the problems with digesting too much magnesium. I think up to 100mg/per day is safe. I have arecomendation to take 500 to 800 at bedtime, and if your taking a multi and have a high magnesium diet this would probably be about right. Also there is a school of thought that taking sodium bicarbonate helps get magnesium into the cells.
                                                                                      

MinnesotaMark
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   Posted 12/7/2009 11:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the information mattnapa- I will do some digging. MM.
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