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Vortex
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   Posted 4/26/2010 9:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I have been having mild heartburn on and off for 4 years, which I mostly controlled by altering my eating schedule.  In the past year the heartburn became more frequent so I had an endscopy 1 month ago which showed active esophagitis at the gastroesophageal junction and a small hatial hernia.  I am not sure if the hernia has been causing my GERD or if I am just hypersecreting.  I have also developed hoarseness recently due to the GERD. 
 
My recommended Prilosec therapy for months but I am concerned about the side effects.  Has anyone had any success with DGL and/or HCL Betaine, or any other holistic remedies?  One complication I have is that I am on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet for Crohn's Disease so I cannot have some of the alkaline foods recommended for GERD.  I realize holistic remedies may take longer to work than drugs but if I can sidestep the PPI's I am willing to wait.  My only worry is that I might be too far into the GERD for any holistic remedy to help.

Moo'sMum
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   Posted 4/28/2010 5:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Vortex
I've just been to a naturopath as I was fed up with going to the doctor and being given drugs and then having it come back again once I was off the drugs. I have had GERD on and off for the last 5 years. My symptons were always severe chest pain followed by vomiting and lots of bloating.
So far what she has recommened to me really seems to be working. I am taking 2 pysillum husk tablets and 1 sliperly elm tablet 1/2 hour before meals and 20ml of aloe vera juice. Then when I'm eating I take a vegetarian digestive enzyme. She also recommended eating mango each day and papaya if you can get it. I have been doing all this for over two weeks now and my tummy is definately starting to feel better not so raw plus I haven't had really bad heartburn since I started. The other important thing she said was no alcohol not a drop and no chocolate (I consumed both in fairly regular quantities :-) ) Plus don't eat anything with any tomato products in it.
She feels confident I'll eventually be able to go back to these foods but need to completely abstain until everything heals. I was so desperate I would have done anything she suggested to get back to normality again and so far so good seems to be working. Fingers crossed.

Perksie
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   Posted 5/1/2010 4:53 AM (GMT -6)   
DGL = waste of time (took it for four months), HCL betaine- well that depends whether your stomach is producing too little or too much acid. There will be some benefit if your stomach is producing too little acid, but in your case the hiatus hernia will most likely be the culprit.

I've tried so many products (spent in excess of $1k trying different things). The only thing I can honestly say works is a chinese herbal medicine called YANG WEI SHU. Google it and you should find it. 100% herbal and works a treat.

Another product called wei tai 999 works pretty well too, not as good as the above though.

Adam

Moo'sMum
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   Posted 5/1/2010 10:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Adam
I'm really interested in the Yang Wei Shu. I googled it and found a site selling it but can you give me a little more info. Do you still have to take it daily or did it make your symptons go away and stay away after one bottle full?
It sounds like the answer to my prayers.
Cheers
Moo's Mum

Perksie
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   Posted 5/2/2010 7:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Moo'sMum,

I was on 80mg Nexium a day, depressed, gave up, no hope, etc. I'm sure you know what it feels like. I had gastritis as well, and acid was making it's way into my mouth when I slept.

In my quest to find the ultimate natural cure, I stumbled across Yang Wei Shu when looking at Chinese medicine. When I received it, I had results in 24 hours. No reflux, no bloated stomach. Thinking it was too good to be true, I cut my nexium down to 40mg and still no reflux. After four more days I stopped taking Nexium altogether and had zero reflux symptoms.

I continued for a month until the bottle was empty, and remained reflux free. After the bottle was empty, I still got reflux maybe once a week (and nowhere near as bad)- but this was a breakthrough for me. I continued without it for a few weeks with very mild reflux (enough to get by with antacids). I then made the decision to continue taking it, but only at half dose. That seems to keep it under control. I do occasionally take a few days off, but usually I have some mild symptoms return.

My doctor actually called me "ignorant" and "silly" as Nexium is tried and proven, whilst what I was taken was not. Well, all I can say is: if you're getting reflux on 80mg nexium, then in my opinion, Nexium isn't effective.

So, to answer your question- yes, I still take it daily, but at half dose. Without it, I would still be getting some symptoms. I actually have a perfect working LES, so I believe it is food allergies which cause my reflux.

My advice to you is to try it for a month at full dose- if it works, cut back to half dose. Consult your doctor of course!

All the best,

Adam

Moo'sMum
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   Posted 5/2/2010 8:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you so much for this info Adam. I'm going to try this. I'm pretty sure my reflux is a weak LES since I started getting it after being pregnant with my second child. It'll be interesting to see what happens. Will keep you posted.

mitsie
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   Posted 5/6/2010 1:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi I am wondering if anyone else has tried Yang Wei Shu?   I am thinking about trying some.   I have tried alot of things and nothing seems to have worked yet.
 
I had the TIF surgery april 9th friday will be 4weeks.    I think I am still getting acid reflux.    I am really sad this doesnt seem to have worked.     Maybe I just havent healed enough yet.
 

couchtater
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   Posted 5/6/2010 2:21 PM (GMT -6)   
mitsie, you're still healing. You'll have some mild reflux for a little while longer. It took almost two months for me to feel totally normal. Remember don't lift anything over 5 lbs for another two weeks. Then slowly increase the weight by five lbs every couple of days.

Joy

mitsie
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   Posted 5/6/2010 6:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Joy
 
Thanks for answering.....you have given me some hope.
 
They have given instructions that I can lift 25lbs now.    maybe not a good idea yet.
 
I have been lifting my dog on the bed.   she just weighs 25lbs.
 
maybe I should guit doing that for now.
 
Arlene

Nana Monster
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   Posted 5/6/2010 7:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I personally know 2 people who have used Essiac Tea for this problem. It not only fixes the problem but helps to repair the damage
from the acid reflux. My man's sister-in-law told him about it as it came recommended to her. My man used it and was fine for over
a year until he started drinking again and it came back so now he has cut down on the booze and back on Essiac. I used it for other
problems including possible skin cancer which are now healing. My best friend is using it for her skin cancer and it's dying off, too.
Essiac is Sheep Sorrel, Slippery Elm, Burdock Root and Turkey Rhubarb. If you go into Essiac Canada.com you will go into
Rene Cassie's web site....it's very informative. Good Luck.

Nana Monster

couchtater
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   Posted 5/7/2010 5:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Dog is too heavy for now. Let him jump up or buy him some steps.

Joy

ep10
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   Posted 6/1/2010 6:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Bringing back an old post.. I had read that honey can help GERD and ulcers. Anyone had experience with this?

judy02
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   Posted 6/3/2010 5:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Perksie said...
DGL = waste of time (took it for four months), HCL betaine- well that depends whether your stomach is producing too little or too much acid. There will be some benefit if your stomach is producing too little acid, but in your case the hiatus hernia will most likely be the culprit.

I've tried so many products (spent in excess of $1k trying different things). The only thing I can honestly say works is a chinese herbal medicine called YANG WEI SHU. Google it and you should find it. 100% herbal and works a treat.

Another product called wei tai 999 works pretty well too, not as good as the above though.

Adam
Hey Adam, where did you buy YANG WEI SHU from if you don't mind me asking? Does it go by another name at all? I've only found one website that sells it, but hoping I can buy it from somewhere where it's not being posted internationally...hopefully I can get it locally from somewhere (I'm from England). Thanks.
 

DENZKIE
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   Posted 6/4/2010 2:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi all,
 
I am also one of the people looking for the best medication for my stomach problem.  For sure its GERD,  Keep burping, vomiting specially after eat. Also, I cant imagine why I feel so dizzy everyday, feel like I'm drunk or I'm just came off roller coaster which really made me think that I nearly dying. Sometimes, I felt numbness of my arms/legs and lower part of my neck.  My doc. gave me omeprazole together with domperidone for a month but its seems doesn't work.   I also tried pariet, nexium,mosapride citrate, tagamet but still seems all doesn't work. What I scared of was  I  cant eat well that cause of loosing my weight a lot.
 
I saw some information that ginseng root and rice gruel really help for healling the damage part of LES. I want to try also this YANG WIE SHU... Hope it work for me. thanks for posting this medicine.
 
I am really fustrated as of now, this symptoms really killin me... confused
wHo ever cured their gerd.,..please kindly share us how?? We will really appreciate.
Thanks,
 
Dennis
 

Alcie
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   Posted 6/4/2010 9:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I can't imagine there's such a thing as too much acid - in the stomach, that is. PH should be 1. It doesn't get any lower. But if it's getting into the esophagus, then there is a problem. Beware of nearly all "natural cures." A few actually help some problems, but it's mostly just taking your money. Without testing there is no way to diagnose why acid is getting into the esophagus.

Pregnancy is unlikely to do much to the LES alone, but it certainly does often cause hiatal hernias - which can mess with the valve! You could have a weak LES, of course. I did, but it was from polio. There aren't too many people left who've had that though. In any case you need a barium swallow to check for the hernia and also for abnormal swallowing. It will show reflux, especially when they tilt the table so you are lying down.

Barium swallow is my favorite - not invasive, no shots, no anesthesia. It can diagnose more than most other nasty tests. Just have the plumber's helper handy. (Look it up.)
Alcie
 
 


couchtater
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   Posted 6/4/2010 10:04 AM (GMT -6)   
To Dennis,
I cured my Gerd.
I had the surgery.

Please discuss this option with your doctor. It is not a horrible surgery. I can eat anything I want with no problems.

Joy

DENZKIE
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   Posted 6/4/2010 7:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joy,
Thanks for this reply
Is it.. you felt exactly the same as I am????  like severe dizziness,.. Vomiting while and after eat. ALso, the numbness I felt??? 
 
Actually I am abit afraid with surgery,.. but if  it is only the option I had,.. I'm gonna go with it I think.. How long it takes if you dont mind asking???
Also, how long you stayed the hospital after  the surgery.
 
Thank you very much for the big help.
 
Kind regards,
Dennis
   

Rent a wreck
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   Posted 6/5/2010 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dennis,
I had the fundoplication 3 weeks ago. the surgery itself was not a big deal, very minimal abdominal discomfort, I had severe neck pain after from my hiatal hernia repair also, but is better now. I was in the hospital for 2 nights due to my pain, but most people go home the day after surgery. If you go in with the mindset that you will be on liquids for a while after and to go slow introducing foods, you will do well. Also no lifting anything heavy for about 6 weeks. My doc told me that I will be eating everything once I am healed and the swelling goes down. I feel good at this point, still only on full liquids, but that's okay. I am in no rush knowing I will be eating everything at some point. The surgery is very worth it as I have no more acid reflux and am off ppi's. If you do have the surgery, make sure the doc has done many of them, mine is also a bariatric surgeon and has been doing this surgery for over 15 years. Good luck.

DENZKIE
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   Posted 6/7/2010 7:46 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks for all of this information and advises..
For the mean time, I'm obseving my self what was the effect of the last medicine that my doc gave to me last saturday. So far, I'm feel a little bit good, no reflux for the pass two days. Also, reduce the syptoms up to 50%, so I hope this medicine will got my GERD gone. I keep drinking ginseng root boiled in water as well and eating rice gruel in the morning & at the night (8:30pm). I think it will go back to normal. The only thing that I always keep on my mind is, decipline my self and be aware of all those food tha cause of reflux while I'm on medication.

I'll keep posting all the improvement.
Thank you very much again. God bless us all

Dennis

couchtater
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   Posted 6/7/2010 8:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Dennis, My gerd was called silent gerd. I coughed constantly and I did get dizzy spells. Otherwise I felt nothing. I was on the strongest dose of PPIs I could take and still had the reflux cough.

I went through the surgery (It was my first time in a hospital since I was born) scared at first. My GI kept saying the surgery won't help you, but it did. I no longer cough or have dizzy spells.

I had very little pain and I stayed at the hospital overnight. I was home by 6:00pm the next day.

Joy

Moo'sMum
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   Posted 6/9/2010 3:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Dennis I had similar symptons as you and it finally turned out to be gallstones. I vomited so much in the last stages before they finally diagnosed me that I lost 6 kilos in 4 weeks. Ask your doctor if they are a possibility for you. I had to have an endoscopy done to sweep my ducts for stones (that was after being admitted to hopsital with severe stomach pains and blood work showing a highly stressed pancreas) and I'm currently waiting on an op to remove my gallbladder. Try not eating cheese, butter or animal fats and see if your symptons lessen. Also when you get the feeling you are going to vomit you can take two panadol and one voltaren which settles the symptons fairly quickly. Worth a shot anyway.

Gerd suffer
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   Posted 6/9/2010 7:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I tried evething for my gerd and hiatal hernia. All the natural things you possibly can imagine. I drink aloe vera, sliperry elm plus ginger tea. I also have changed my diet and added digest enzymes plus ph balance pills. My gerd is a pain. I also work out 5 days a week. Yoga for relaxing the body. Now I am suffering with a bad case of gastritis.  I am going to my doctor tomorrow and see my options.  Ginger juice really helps me... however does not tast good.

coreysmom
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   Posted 7/31/2010 6:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Curious to know if anyone else has tried the Yang Wei Shu. I'm interested in trying it myself.

Moo'sMum
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   Posted 7/31/2010 8:42 PM (GMT -6)   
There is a poster on here called Adam who has tried it and he says it's great. There's another poster somewhere who swears by essiac tea (I think that's how you spell it.) Worth a try for sure.

Liz V.
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   Posted 7/31/2010 8:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Perksie, I am also interested in trying the Yang Wei Shu. Can you tell me where you got it from? I have only found one website that sells it. I'm leery about any chinese herbs that might come from china due to the lead issue. I've emailed them asking where their product comes from.
Thanks!
Liz
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