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Footymad
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   Posted 6/7/2010 7:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi all, i'm new to the site.
I had a nissen fundo last Wednesday (2nd) and i am on the road to recovery now.
Just thought id say how useful i found the site before and after the surgery.
To this day im still finding it hard to understand why i was put in for the nissen as i have not experienced the same symptoms as most of the people on the forums that i have read. I was advised to undergo the surgery after a manometry test showed a clear hiatus hernia, although after the surgery i was told that they couldn't actually find a hernia.
I am also aware that the surgery can be used to fix heartburn and acid reflux, of which i have none.
 
My main symptom was regurgitation of all food after meals, but the majority of regurgitated food did not taste like acid so i assume this is not acid reflux?
 
Never the less i am hoping that the surgery will have helped and im looking forward to introducing some soft food into my diet on thursday, Yay!

cowboy22
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   Posted 6/7/2010 7:40 AM (GMT -6)   
HIYA footymad i was the same as you regurg food and no acid or heartburn.I also had a hiatus hernia.Mine failed at 2 weeks my own fault went mad too much physical work.so pleeeeeeeeeease pleeeease take it EASY DONT lift anything for 8weeks or until your doc gives you the go AHEAD.heal well .keep us updated on your healing:))))))))))

Footymad
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   Posted 6/7/2010 8:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey thanks for the quick reply.
Sorry to hear that it failed are you planning on having it redone?
My surgeon seemed pretty optimistic about my recovery saying i would only need a week or two off sport and that i would only need a week off work and college but after reading other peoples experiences i think i will take it easy for a bit longer as its best to be sure :-)
The irony is it took the doctors 3 years to finally diagnose me with a hiatus hernia only to turn out i didnt actually have one, just hoping now that the surgery was worth while, time to wait and see :-)

cowboy22
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   Posted 6/7/2010 8:09 AM (GMT -6)   
PLEEEEEEEase footy you need longer recovery than that.8weeks no lifting or exherting the diaphram area.Regular members will be here to clarify this but for the surgery to be a sucess in the LONG run its all critical now.The surgeon has given you a new wrap hes done his part so pleese friend take this advice seriously.I had surgery 4th august last yr and felt a NEW man so good that after 2 weeks i mowed my lawn,washed my car,put out the rubbish.That night had acid and food regurg and have been a mess mentally physically for a year and have a redo on thursday.I wish you well but its up to you in this early recovery and i wish you the best of sucess.. :-)

stkitt
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   Posted 6/7/2010 8:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello and welcome to HealingWell and now you belong to the Wrapped Club too. :)



I see you have met one of our awesome members and have receive some good advice. I hope your recovery goes smoothly and know we are all here to support you.



Again welcome,



Kitt

Rent a wreck
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   Posted 6/7/2010 11:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I had my wrap 3 weeks ago and it is really important to take it easy and slow!!!. I am itching to golf, which the doc told me I could after 5 weeks, just no lifting of the bag.
I can tell if I do lift anything heavier than a gallon of milk, soooo please don't go back to activities too early. I went back to work at 6 days after, but at home on a computer and able to take frequent breaks. Also, go slow with the food, it will be a long time before you will be able to eat real food. I am still on full liquids and even that is tough at times. Good luck and keep us posted

Footymad
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   Posted 6/7/2010 4:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the replies, i will be sure to take it easy because i really dont want to have to go through this all again, im only 17 so hopefully i will recover quite fast but i will take your advice and not push it too soon :-)

Rent a wreck, how has your recovery been so far? I've tried things like soup pushed through a sieve and so far its too thick for me to swallow so im sticking to thin liquids of a watery consistency.

Does anyone have any idea of when the stitches come out? I wasnt really given much aftercare advice so not sure if my stitches are ready to come out or not, apparently they will just fall off but there is tape on top so not sure if im meant to pull that off or not?

Footymad
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   Posted 6/7/2010 4:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Also cowboy good luck for your redo on thursday!

couchtater
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   Posted 6/7/2010 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Don't pull off the tape. It will fall off on it's own.

Don't do sports for at least three months. You can sit in a desk at week two, just don't carry books over five pounds.

Stay on liquids for at least three weeks then gradually sample thicker foods like very thin grits or mashed up noodles.

Joy

Rent a wreck
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   Posted 6/8/2010 7:15 AM (GMT -6)   
I have stuck to broth , jello, juices, protein drinks, ice cream and water. Have tried mashed potatoes, but still too thick and my esophagus spasms afterwords. I also still have to crush all my medicines. Creamy soups are still tough as well. Just stay with the liquids for now, my doc told me some people take longer than others for the swelling to go down. I may be going for a dilitation of the esophagus if it doesn't improve soon, so I can increase my diet.
My stitches took about 3 weeks to come out. One of my incisions opened up and still looks pretty nasty, but not infected. Will leave a nice scar I am sure.
hang in there, it takes a while for "normalcy" to return.

Alcie
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   Posted 6/8/2010 10:31 AM (GMT -6)   
I agree with Joy: recovery needs at least 3 months!!! This was major surgery. You can walk, but avoid any lifting or running or jumping. If you tear your stitches inside you could end up worse than when you started. Take the summer off sports!
Alcie
 
 


dencha
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   Posted 6/8/2010 12:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Footymad,
Welcome to the "Wrapped Club" at Healing Well!  I'm sure you're right--your youth will definitely make the recovery a lot faster.  As far as eating goes, everyone is different.  A lot of people will tell you to stay on liquids because that's what their doctor told them, or they had difficulty swallowing anything else.
 
However each of us has unique ways to heal and our eating needs will vary.  I went with my surgeon's recommendations, and started solid foods after 5 days.  I enjoy eating, and weeks on liquids would have been really hard for me.  He tells his patients that they can eat anything that can be chewed to a liquid.  Of course that puts a lot more responsibility on you, to follow those directions and not try to eat things you shouldn't.
 
If your doctor allows these types of foods, take small bites and chew carefully and long.  You'll find crackers and toast will chew to a liquid, but bread can't.  If you're chewing something that doesn't cooperate, just have a napkin handy and discreetly get rid of it.  Don't try to swallow it anyway.  Also, you'll want to pay attention when you're eating, or you'll forget and swallow something you shouldn't. 
 
Mashed potatoes aren't always easy to get down in the beginning.  Crispy crackers, on the other hand, can be chewed to a complete liquid and are no problem.  Bananas can be kind of sticky and can give you trouble.  It's variable, and you'll have to experiment.
 
Good luck with your recovery.  Listen to those who have recommended that you take it easy and give your insides time to heal.  This type of surgery leaves your outsides pretty unscathed, and it's easy to think you're all healed.  Your GI tract has been dramatically changed, and it will take time to heal.
Be sure to stick around!  There are lots of experienced members here who will be happy to support you through your recovery.
Take care,
Denise
 
 
 

tirali
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   Posted 6/9/2010 11:34 PM (GMT -6)   
whoa this is crazy- I had this surgery 2 months ago and I too am 17, was told I had a hernia but didn't actually, and had the surgery for regurg. up until a couple weeks postop, i was afraid the surgery hadnt worked because some things could still come up, but i guess this is just stuff that hadnt gone through the wrap yet- you have to eat SLOWLY! and be patient with your healing, even though it's hard when all your friends are being active etc. good luck!

couchtater
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   Posted 6/10/2010 4:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Tirali,
I'm glad to hear from you. How's things going for you now? I remember you being worried about the surgery at first. Is everything good now?

Joy

tirali
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   Posted 6/10/2010 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Joy,
Yes, things are going much better. It was pretty hard the first couple weeks, I had to cancel a trip and was pretty close to going to the ER because my pain wasn't managed well enough, but I'm feeling 99% great now! Thanks.

lawrapped
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   Posted 6/13/2010 12:57 PM (GMT -6)   
HI!  I am new to this site.  I am 2 years post opt and still have some side effects.  NO More Acid reflux and that is wonderful!  Bad bloating and gas problems and major diarreha.  Anyone else have long term side effects.  I had hiatal hernia and 1/3+ of my stomach had pushed thru my diaphragm and into my chest plus the acid reflux.  Still have some chest pain and am afraid the hernia is back.
 

couchtater
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   Posted 6/13/2010 5:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Ouch! Welcome to Healingwell,

Have you had any tests done to find out the cause of your problems?

My aunt had the same surgery and her's came undo after they stretched her esophagus. Did you get yours stretched?

Joy

Footymad
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   Posted 7/31/2010 10:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey all sorry a late reply, thanks for all of the advice you have given its came in handy, i hope you are all doing well!

Just a quick update; its almost 2 months for me now, i can now eat anything without any discomfort, other than bloating which is expected so fine. I do get hickups quite a lot but it doesnt hurt so i dont mind that.
My scars seem fully healed but i do still have pain at the largest scar site, I tried a little bit of jogging and swimming yesterday and now can hardly walk.. I read somewhere that the muscle can be damaged during the surgery so im assuming i may have exercised too soon for that muscle.. There is also a little indent and a lump underneath which is weird.. But all is well and i dont regret having the surgery at all.

Thanks for all your help throughout :-)!

couchtater
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   Posted 7/31/2010 12:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Watch that lump. It maybe a hernia developing or not. I had a lump under all my surgery sites they gradually smoothed out, but it's wise to watch them.
My stomach muscles are weakened by my surgery. I've developed a pooch. I can't do sit ups to strenghten them due to back issues.
Joy

Problems too numerous to name. :)

Alcie
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   Posted 7/31/2010 4:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Footy -
I fail to comprehend how they could find a hernia with a manometry. Manometry measures pressure and is used to find the strength of your swallow and may determine if you have backwards motility or nutcracker esophagus. There must have been some other test they were relying on for hernia. In any case you obviously had non-acid reflux. I had that too - because my acid was controlled by PPIs. Since the reflux was a big problem there must have been a bad LES valve at the bottom of your esophagus. That's why you needed the fundoplication.

Bloating is from the gas you can't burp up anymore. Don't drink carbonated anything. No soda, beer, NADA! Look up gas-producing foods and avoid them for now. Maybe you'll be lucky and be able to add them gradually in about 4 months.... or more. I still don't tolerate them at 9 months.

Forget the exercise for 3 months or risk problems. You've already found some. You've had a bunch of big holes poked through your abdominal wall and you don't want a hernia at those sites.


Joy - forget situps. They aren't good for the back anyway. There are lots better exercises - walking and swimming.

Lapwrapped - I had the same thing, but I had a whole lot of dissection around the esophagus to pull it down. No, they don't "stretch" it! It should have been freed up after they pulled down the stomach. That's a critical part of the procedure! You might ask about getting a barium swallow. Non-invasive, doesn't hurt, and they can see right away if you have a hernia, how you are swallowing, where the stomach is and how the wrap looks. I'd prefer 10 of them to 1 scope!

Tirali - sorry you had this so young. Take it easy! It takes 3 months at least to recover and see how things are working.
Alcie
 
 

Footymad
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   Posted 7/31/2010 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't really understand it either. All i know is that the doctor that did the manometry said that during the test it showed a clear hernia on the little pattern thing that came up on the screen. There was a sign of a hernia in an endoscopy a few years before however in more recent endoscopy's and other tests like the barium swallow nothing was found. Its all very confusing but so far i've had no regurg since the fundo so i can't complain :-)

rummaan
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   Posted 8/8/2010 6:10 AM (GMT -6)   
guys i just had the surgery yesterday so far so good. But i still have a little jump go the throat and a slightly sour taste go my mouth every few hours. Has anyone experienced that. The surgeon said you can expect anything so early and it should pass. I also had a lot of tissue around the esophagus because of severe esophagitis so the doc had to do a lot of cutting.

couchtater
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   Posted 8/8/2010 9:38 AM (GMT -6)   
It's very quirky during the first few weeks while it's swelling. The swelling can last anywhere from two weeks to couple of months. Since you had alot of cutting it may take longer to heal.
Joy

Problems too numerous to name. :)
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