Anyone have GERD symptoms but their endoscopy results came back as normal?

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judy02
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   Posted 6/17/2010 2:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Just wondering if I'm alone with this or not??
 
I had a 2nd endoscopy done today...both times they've come back as normal, yet I still get constant acid build up and reflux...So frustating lol

couchtater
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   Posted 6/17/2010 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Have they done a manometry or a barium swallow on you, yet?

They tell more about swallowing than anything.

Joy

judy02
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   Posted 6/18/2010 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
No...the consultant didn't offer it. I'm not so sure whether it's worth asking for it or not. I do get indigestion and bloating which I'm now wondering is causing acid reflux and whether I actually have too little stomach acid...

I've ordered some natural remedy type medication to help with indigestion and bowel trouble...to be honest, I'm beginning to lose faith in mainstream western medicine in regards to this problem, it's done very little to help me so far :(

coreysmom
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   Posted 6/19/2010 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Judy, I understand your frustration. I have read, though, that some people that do have GERD don't show that they have damage to the esophagus.

I'm with you on wanting to use natural remedies. I highly recommend checking into Nutrition Response Testing. You can google it. I've had great results for other health problems and now I'm using it to help the acid reflux.

judy02
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   Posted 6/20/2010 10:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the empathy coreysmom :)
 
Yeah I have my up and down days with my health as probably a lot of us do. My GERD has calmed down the last few days. Now I'm just bloated all the time, I feel like food is just not moving down in my stomach like its meant to...leading me to believe I may have had too little stomach acid, causing the indigestion. I've not felt at all hungry the last few days. I'm even wondering now whether I have gastroparesis, something I will go back to the doc about if things don't improve with OTC indigestion remedies. I finally quit taking Nexium yesterday, as it hasn't helped reflux so far and now with all my indigestion, I'm wondering if I'm making the bloating symptoms worse...I did read apple cider vinegar can be a good natural remedy for acid reflux, it's meant to keep your stomach acid/alkaline levels about right apparently, you can google that also ;)
 
Good luck in your quest to get well also!

LosAngelesMaria
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   Posted 6/30/2010 11:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I had the same problem while I was on PPi, I guess your stomach needs acid to digest food. I quit the PPIs that I took for almost 2 years. Bloating is gone. But I had a terrible time after I quit, the rebound was horror! My doc said I should have never stopped taking them suddenly; I should have done it slowly, taking them every other day, then every two days and so on. Now acupuncture and herbs are helping me at the moment. My endoscopy was also normal, but that doesn’t check if the LES is working, which I think it is the core of my problem.

Alcie
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   Posted 7/1/2010 7:19 AM (GMT -6)   
For bloating, refluxing you can try to figure out if you have food triggers. My allergist helped me get mine under control.

I kept a food log for a couple of months, listing foods, drinks, medications, and what symptoms and the time of everything. After I had a list of possible foods, I did "challenge testing." You eat something simple, like bread or milk - just a teaspoon (or maybe a tablespoon if you think you may need to start with a higher quantity) to start. Then wait 20 minutes and record any symptoms. Then you double the dose and wait another 20 minutes. 1,2,4,8, and ending with 16 teaspoons or bites or whatever measure. Wait at least a couple of hours and go on to another food.

I ended up with a weird list of foods: gelatin, maple syrup, nearly all processed foods, pork, corn syrup ... and much more. When I started googling food allergies and the specific foods I came up with sulfites. There was my whole list! You could end up with MSG, which is in just about the same foods, or something completely different.

Eliminating specific food triggers stops the heaving, refluxing of the stomach. It won't cure a bad valve or stop acid in any way. Now, after haaving had to have surgery because of a bad accident, I don't reflex into my esophagus any more, but my stomach can still heave.

It's possible for trigger foods, or just refluxing for unknown reason, to trigger the heart to beat very fast. I still get this when I eat my trigger foods. It's called cardio-esophageal reflex.
Alcie
 
 


Alcie
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   Posted 7/1/2010 7:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Sorry, that should have been reflux into my esophagus, not reflex. The last cardio-esophageal reflex is spelled correctly. They're not the same thing.
Alcie
 
 

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