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Alcie
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   Posted 6/29/2010 9:49 AM (GMT -6)   
What not to do after a Nissen!
 
Yesterday evening I wanted a hot fudge sundae so badly I drove up the the local custard stand and ate a large one.  Bad, bad mistake!  I got so sick with  gas and my sulfite intolerance (yes, it's in icecream and the hot fudge too) I couldn't drive myself to the ER, and I couldn't get anybody else to come and drive me either.  Tha local ambulance takes half an hour to get to us and then another half hour to get to the ER, so I called my husband, an hour + away.  He told me to get the old paregoric and take a tablespoon.  That eased things up enough to stay home and just suffer the whole night. 
 
I'd already chewed up 4 Lactaid tablets which just made more gas, which doesn't burp up after nissen.  My stomach was heaving and I can't throw up either.  The problem was that I'd eaten other foods that produce gas and contain sulfite during the day: broccoli, snap peas and onions in the vegetables. 
 
No more icecream, broccoli, onions ...             Gas still rumbling today.                 Chicken and rice is getting boring.
Alcie
 
 


couchtater
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   Posted 6/29/2010 10:08 AM (GMT -6)   
((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))

I know how hard it is to give up a favorite food. I used to love shrimp. I could eat it anyway. But one day I decided to try snow crab legs for the first time. I had a terrible reaction to them and now I'm allergic to all shellfish including shrimp! :((

Can you eat homemade mashed potatoes?

Joy

Alcie
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   Posted 6/29/2010 3:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joy. Allergy to all shellfish! Sad.

Mashed potatoes will never replace icecream, have few vitamins, and they cause gas, but a little might be better than nothing. I wish the docs would have us told about at least some of the side effects of having fundoplication.
Alcie
 
 


couchtater
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   Posted 6/29/2010 6:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I can eat icecream until my eyes bulge, but I'm left with horrible flatulations the next day.

I just have to limit myself.

Joy

joe1619
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   Posted 6/29/2010 6:49 PM (GMT -6)   
alcie, how is the reflux. did the fundo help. i am now at the point i need surgery, but am concerned about the fundo..it seems pretty crummy and i wonder why surgeons do it other than to make money..it really seems problematic

stkitt
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   Posted 6/30/2010 8:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Alcie,


I can eat ice cream as long as it is not before bedtime so may I have your share? [img]/community/emoticons/eyes.gif[/img] I do have great empathy for anyone who has to have so much restriction in their diet. My hubby has Crohn's and has a very limited diet.



Kindly,



Kitt

Alcie
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   Posted 7/1/2010 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Joe - The fundo stopped all the reflux, but of course not the heaving which is caused by food triggers. I can't burp much or vomit at all, but when my stomach is irritated it can try, and it's uncomfortable. Everyone with a post-fundo valve has trouble with this unless it wasn't done right. So make sure your surgeon has done thousands - I mean it! Experience is key!! And get proper testing to ensure the correct procedure. I have a weak swallow, so I was given a Toupet fundo - like Nissen, but not a full wrap.

I can eat most real foods, unprocesed, except for things that have natural sulfite: garlic, onions, grapes, and pork. Lots of processed foods are first softened or bleached with sulfite: corn starch, corn syrup and other corn products, gelatin (softened pig skin), etc. I'd rather just pop a prepared meal in the microwave, hate to cook, but I'm forced to prepare foods from scratch. It's so tempting to just grab something quick, but the consequences are severe. My trigger foods also trigger tachycardia, and once caused a small heart attack.
Alcie
 
 


kimber9807
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   Posted 7/1/2010 2:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Alice,I hope you feel better soon.....I can relate I had bad gas pains after they removed my gallbladder......Gas is terrible......(hugs))))
im dxed with  herniated discs,fibromylagia , scolosis,ddd,athritis, spinal stenosis , spinal blockage ,gerd,gastric ulcer (2008), pernicous anemia , folic acid anemia and gallbladder removal 3/23/10.
 
meds: Ambien, prilosec otc,  ibuprofren,Ultracet, Flexeril, folic acid , b12 injections,  wellbutrin,zyrtec and benadryl.
 
Just added : folic acid supplement  1 mg a day for the next year and also b12 injections increased to once a month. pernicous anemia and  Folic acid anemia.


lilitiger2
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   Posted 7/4/2010 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Alcie
so sorry to hear about your symptoms
i am on the blandest diet but sometimes just get a craving for something (tonight, green beans...BIG Mistake)...it just sucks sometimes and yogurt, while I love it, just is not always what I want.

anyway, glad you didn't tach and hope you're ok!!
lila

Alcie
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   Posted 7/5/2010 10:00 AM (GMT -6)   
lila - Ah, but I did tach, and that was what made me finally have to give up the ice cream. At least it didn't progress to a full plaque rupture. I knew I couldn't tolerate the store ice cream brands, any of them, but thought the local homemade custard stand was ok. Actually it was probably the hot fudge, but what's ice cream without hot fudge! I do tolerate a few brands of yogurt, just not the Greek ones, that I suspect have milk powder added.

Bland diet is not always the cure for anything. Green beans, or any other legume, including soy will make gas. Spice things up with individual spices, not mixes, which generally have salt and pepper and garlic. It's amazing what a little oregano will do for summer squash. Beets are not something most people think of, and use fresh, definitely not canned. Canned vegetables often have sulfites, which messes with a lot more people than are counted.
Alcie
 
 


babygirl10150
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   Posted 7/5/2010 10:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I caved and had a small 5oz cup of ice cream last night and was in pain the rest of the night. I'm lactose interolerant but can do cheese since it's processed. All of the things that taste good are "bad". :(
Michelle

~Nissen redo 05/10/10~
~Nissen 12/14/09~


Alcie
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   Posted 7/5/2010 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Michelle- It wasn't worth it, was it? Besides the lactose, I have a problem with sulfites, which are found in most foods that are processed.

Try a small amount of yogurt. I can eat Activia, 1 small serving, or Costco frozen yogurt, 1/3 or less their giant serving. Stay away from the really thick types! They have added evaporated milk. (They can still say it's all milk though.) I can't eat most cheeses, especially the tasty hard ones like cheddar.
Alcie
 
 


babygirl10150
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   Posted 7/5/2010 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Definitely not worth it but was darn good! lol I tried to find soy ice cream but didn't see any. I wonder about sherbert or frozen yogurt. I have been getting my appetite back so I've been trying different things to see what I could tolerate and my fav, ice cream, is a no go.
Michelle

~Nissen redo 05/10/10~
~Nissen 12/14/09~


couchtater
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   Posted 7/5/2010 3:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I can't eat fiber one yogurt. I get horrible stomach cramps from it.
Soy dreams makes a good ice cream sandwich.

Joy
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