My gastroscopy...ugh!

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zeldagoblin
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   Posted 6/30/2010 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I went in pretty unhappy about the idea of sedation, merely because I just think an amnesiac is utterly stupid and pointless. The nurse said it was so that if you need to come in again, you wont be too nervous because you won't recall it. I also didn't want it because I just can't get the day off work tomorrow.

So I opted for throat spray instead, as I had that before for my nasopharyngoscopy and knew my enemy, so to speak.

I got in there and they sprayed me, but instead of waiting to let it work like the ENT guys did, they just laid me down on my side and poked the scope in...well I went nuts! I gagged uncontrollably and yanked the scope out, and the nurses and doc tried to talk me down. The nurse told me not to pull the scope, and that I would gag but I must try to swallow and breathe etc etc, but my heart was racing nearly pounding out of my chest and I was sweating and shaking and crying! The main upset was that I felt I couldn't swallow because of the spray, and hadn't gotten my head around that.

Anyway it took me a long time to let them put the scope in again, and when they did I gagged and gagged constanlty throughout the procedure. The nurses had to hold my hands to keep me from yanking the scope out again, and I was whimpering the whole time like a child.

No wonder they don't want you to remember it. I was in shock and shakey afterwards.

They confirmed my "tiny" hiatus hernia, and also found some "minor inflammation", which they took a biopsy from to determine whether or not H.Pylori is present.

I was tested for H.P before, and it was negative, but I recently had campylobactor poisoning, so maybe that could have led to it? I read somewhere that food poisoning can be a cause.

So no real news, and i am REALLY nervous about motility tests now, as I don't feel I did very well there at all.

On the plus side, I love the spray, I had relief from the globus for the half an hour my throat was numb. First time it's totally gone away in 11 months.

The search continues...

couchtater
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   Posted 6/30/2010 2:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm so sorry you had a bad experience.
The sensor for the manometry is a lot slimmer. It shouldn't be so rough.

Joy

Oscar's Mum
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   Posted 7/2/2010 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Next time take the sedation. I handled the gastroscopy fine with the throat spray but I didn't like it one bit. I would have the sedation next time. Do you still think it's utterly stupid and pointless?

Alcie
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   Posted 7/2/2010 8:40 PM (GMT -6)   
There are meds that aren't as bad, just relaxing, not so amnestic. I will allow a little diazepam, but not Versed (midazolam). Since I have fibromyalgia and am post-polio I need a muscle relaxant an hour and a half before surgeries and this works for me. It's called a tranquilizer, but in small doses (1-2 mg) it's the best muscle relaxant there is.
Alcie
 
 


zeldagoblin
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   Posted 7/4/2010 3:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Oscar's mum, yes, I do still think it's pointless, because the nurse told me, the drug doesn't kill pain, stop gagging, or even relax you, she categorically stated that its sole function was to take away the memory. She also said that it with sedation you don't get throat spray, so you are likely to gag or fight even more. It seems the risk of injury to the throat would be greater with the sedation, but you just wouldn't remember the actual experience. My GERD related throat pain is my greatest issue. In addition, some of the patients in recovery who had been under sedation said they could still remember it, so it makes absolutely no sense to me.

Alcie, I wasn't told of any other drug on offer, I asked about alternatives, and she said the spray or the amnesiac were my choices. Are you in the UK? I feel the UK is not well equipped in terms of health treatments, and offer very little choice and control to the patient. You "get what you're given", as Mum would say.

couchtater
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   Posted 7/4/2010 8:03 AM (GMT -6)   
I fought the versa and they gave me the "michael jackson drug". I don't remember any of both proceedures. They were both done the same day.

Joy

MayOK
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   Posted 7/7/2010 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Yep, that's propofol, the Michael Jackson drug. Had it for my endoscopy and colonoscopy in the US. Didn't feel a thing. Don't remember a thing. It is a lovely, lovely drug. Am I allowed to say that?

Moo'sMum
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   Posted 7/7/2010 11:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with other posters. Go with the sedation. I don't remember any of my ERCP procedure and I'm happy about that. It's not stupid and pointless if it achieves its function of making you not remember plus I didn't gag once with mine cause the sedation made me so relaxed.

lilitiger2
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   Posted 7/8/2010 7:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm totally with the sedation, have had three times and the total sedation by far the best ! last time Ithought I was getting versed and fentanyl but doc only gave versed, awful! I apparently gave them a very hard time (I wonder why?). some people are fine with no sedation and others like it, i'd just go with whatever my personal comfort was. My sister likes staying awake and conscious for the colonscopy so she can "watch the movie"..not me! I don't need to watch the movie, very happy with the highlights!

zeldagoblin
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   Posted 7/8/2010 2:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I know it sounds like I am anti sedation, but I'm not. I had one done under total sedation, and was quite happy. The thing is, even if this stuff had relaxed me, I would have accepted it, but the nurse was very clear. It does nothing to help the process. I would rather not risk side effects from something that won't help things along, specially since I might damage my dental work or my throat more than it already is.

If a tranq or relaxant had been offered, I would have jumped all over it.

Alcie
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   Posted 7/11/2010 7:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Zelda
I'm not in UK, sorry for you. At least here we can insist on what meds we get. I'll refuse a procedure if they won't work with me.

I can't take generic propofol, and somethime it's the only kind places have. It's got sulfite, and I'm allergic. Versed is useless in my book and I refuse it in writing, hand it to them when I go in. I've had fentanyl, but that just makes me vomit for the next 6 hours and does nothing for pain either.

I'll take diazepam, related to midazolam (Versed), but not as amnestic and a better muscle relaxant. I take it an hour and a half before procedures because I have fibromyalgia and post-polio.

Beyond that there's not much available, so I am forced to do without. I've got a colonoscopy coming up in a couple of months. Hurts like all getout for 10 minutes, but no nausea, get to watch the show, can drive myself.
Alcie
 
 

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