oh no! Endo to check if I wrecked my fundo.

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Alcie
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   Posted 8/9/2010 3:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I should have known better than to even try a half a pill of Darvocet-N.  I only heaved 4 or 5 times, but some blood came up.  I have nausea and mid sternum pain.  Now my GI doc wants me to come in tomorrow morning for an endoscopy to see if he can see anything wrong with my wrap.  And I've got the worst gag-reflex I've ever heard of. :(  
 
I'm really scared that with my intolerance to anything in my throat that I'll jerk or heave and he'll wreck my wrap further - and I won't have any sedation because I have to drive myself the hour and a half to get there.  No, there's nobody available out here in the boonies to drive me.
 
To make it worse, I have a lower front incisor that is splinted to the tooth next to it, and it hurts when I even bite a piece of toast. (Actually I use my tongue instead of that tooth for biting.) 
 
This is all from the wreck I was in a year ago that pushed my stomach into my chest, etc., ad nauseum.   
Alcie
 
 

Moo'sMum
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   Posted 8/9/2010 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh bugger that sucks for you!!!! Hope everything goes ok. Will they give you the throat spray?

mitsie
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   Posted 8/9/2010 4:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Alcie where is your GI located.   
 
Maybe someone you know is located near you!
 
 

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   Posted 8/9/2010 4:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Alcie-
I sure wish you had someone who could give you are ride. You don't want to have a dry heave attack with that thing in the wrap. I am praying it just did very minimal damage and will heal on it's own. Didn't you say they wanted to dilate it once before? If I remember that correctly, maybe you did it yourself? Good luck and I pray everything is still intact. If not, I am a redo survivor!

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Bill
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Moo'sMum
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   Posted 8/9/2010 5:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Or could you stay at a hotel/motel for the day and get taxied there after the endo then snooze the day away?

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   Posted 8/9/2010 8:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Moo's Mum has got a good idea. Why not see about that?
Joy

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dencha
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   Posted 8/9/2010 8:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry to hear you're having so many problems, Alcie. With the problems you have with gag reflex, and the risk of hurting your tooth, or moving during the scope, it would probably be a good idea to spend the night there and get the sedation.

I've had an endoscopy with light sedation and no sedation, and if I have to have another one to check my wrap, I believe I'll take the sedation, because I'll be so worried about the doc screwing up my wrap even further, I don't think I'd be able to relax enough to cooperate as I should.

Good luck, Alcie.
Let us know how it goes.
Denise

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   Posted 8/10/2010 6:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Alcie,
 
I sure hope you found someone to go with you today as I hate to think of you having the scope without medication. 
 
We will both be having a scope today - I will be glad when my procedure is over as I am sure you will be happy to have your procedure behind you also.
 
I am sending many good vibes your way and please know I care.
 
Kindly,
Kitt
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Alcie
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   Posted 8/10/2010 8:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the replies guys!  Moral support goes a long way to releiving anxiety.  Even with nothing to drink I'm refluxing and stomach is doing a Cha-cha.  Gas is rumbling in the gut.  I hope I don't **** in the middle of the procedure.
 
I'll be on my way in a few minutes.  I'm driving down to my husband's office, but he's rearranged his schedule so he can drive me home (and leave my old truck until).  I'll have to wait around a few hours, but at least I can have sedation.
 
I'm still refusing Versed because it does nothing for pain and only makes you forget what went on.  Amnesia is useless if you are struggling and wreck the wrap further.  Propofol is OK and wears off faster and doesn't leave you loopy.  With my gag reflex they'll be happier if I'm out completely anyway.  I just have to make sure it's not the generic one!
 
Kitt - Best wishes!  I hope you have an easy procedure and the results are good.
Alcie
 
 

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   Posted 8/10/2010 8:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Alcie,
I'm so glad you're going to have the sedation. Good move. Who cares about the truck. It'll be safe until you go back to get it. Good luck, and best wishes for a great outcome.

Kitt,
I forgot you're having your procedure today. Good luck to you, as well. Hopefully they'll find everything is chugging along just fine. It's good that you have thorough medical professionals who want to be sure they've covered all bases.

Both of you...relax and go with the flow!
We'll be thinking of you and cheering you on! yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Denise

mitsie
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   Posted 8/10/2010 8:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Alcie and Kitt
 
Good luck with your tests today.
 
I'll be thinking about you.   

Moo'sMum
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   Posted 8/10/2010 4:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Best wishes and god bless Alcie and Kitt today. Keep us updated!

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   Posted 8/10/2010 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope everything went well.
Joy

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Alcie
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   Posted 8/10/2010 7:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks again.  All's well, according to my GI.  He says the wrap's intact, no hernia, just inflammation of stomach and duodenum and a little in esophagus.  He had no explanation for the vomiting blood, the mid-sternum pain that comes and goes, the sudden reflux and burping.  Go home and take Nexium.  Get a cardiac echo.
 
I respect this guy, but no explanation???  I'm not fine, or I wouldn't have gone through this!  My PCP, who happened to be in the hospital said I don't have a heart problem that came on suddenly, and I should still get a barium swallow, even though the GI is adamant. 
 
I did one really good thing - insisted on only Diprivan (brand-name propofol with no sulfite).  They were going to only get me loopy, but I insisted that with my horrendous gag I would need a bit more, and I got it.  No Versed hangover or after-effects!  Yay!  Not sleepy at all.  I only had a sore throat (no spray needed when they knock you out, and no inability to swallow afterwards), and they didn't dislodge my loose tooth.
 
I do have one complaint - I couldn't get any pain medication until I was sitting in the recovery chair and got my own tramadol from my purse.  I take only two a day (breakfast and lunch) and the first one had worn off 3 hours before I could get mine.  The GI insisted he "doesn't give narcotics."  So I lay there crying, didn't want to sit up.  It takes an hour and a half for tramadol to releive pain when it's gotten bad.   Next procedure I will take the med I need pre-op, and they can just sift through the tablet particles.  Patients do have a right to not be in pain!  It's posted everywhere. (Propofol and Versed are not pain relievers.)
 
I should probably have not had the coffee (2 cups on an empty stomach) they gave me - bad nausea a couple of hours after I got home - took Zofran (chewed) and a tsp of Paregoric to stop the nausea instantly.  (I recommend Paregoric to stop imminent vomiting.  It's great for serious coughing too.)
 
I'll take the Nexium and give up coffee, even though it's my only little food pleasure.  I don't feel like eating, but I haven't since the vomiting episode.  It could be too much coffee causing gastritis.   :(
Alcie
 
 

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   Posted 8/10/2010 8:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Alcie,
Glad you made it through the procedure and came out in one piece! It is difficult when you're in a facility like a hospital. You're at their mercy. They should have been more understanding about the pain you're in. Glad you're out of there and back in your own home.

Are you going for the barium swallow? I had one that didn't show all that much. I'm positive that my wrap is screwed up in some way--a stitch came loose, it's twisted a bit...something is off (from all my asthmatic coughing post-surgery), but the barium swallow showed everything intact. Go figure.

Get some rest...take it easy on the coffee. It's definitely hard on the stomach--caffeinated or decaf...too much acid!
Feel better, and be glad you've got that endoscopy behind you.
Take care,
Denise

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   Posted 8/11/2010 12:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Glad to hear it al went well but understand your frustration at no explanation for your symptoms. Hope the B Swallow will give you some answers.

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   Posted 8/11/2010 5:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Alcie,
 
I am glad all went well and I agree, patients have the right to pain control.  I thought of you when I was going through my procedure X 2 as without med I would have left the building.  LOL.
 
I posted my experience under the "Road" thread. 
 
I agree with you that not finding any answers to what is going on is  discouraging.  I am glad I do not have a hole in my heart but sure would like to know what happened.
 
Wish you the best.
 
Thanks to others for well wishes.
 
Kitt
 
 
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Alcie
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   Posted 8/12/2010 10:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Kitt, I read your story. I's glad your heart is not the problem!

I would have happily gone through it without meds, but I would have jumped around too much for the doc to do a good job, with my awful gag reflex. And I ws concerned that I could further damage my wrap!

I will never allow Versed though, as it has nothing to do with pain, and it's purpose is only to give you amnesia. I vomit with Fentanyl unless given several doses of Zofran over the next 6 hours or more, and it doesn't do much for my pain either.

I feel like the Nexium is reducing my acid and the sore throat is a little better, but as I totally expected, the reflux is still with me. I'm back to where I was before the accident that gave me the giant hernia. NERD. Only now I reflux with every food and drink or even with nothing at all.

I wish I had a clue as to what is irritating my stomach. I'll have to look up all my meds. Maybe it's my vitamin pill.

I've contacted my surgeon hoping for a second opinion, but I'm not expecting an answer.
Alcie
 
 

kittehmom
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   Posted 8/14/2010 3:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Alcie - I'm so sorry you are in pain. I absolutely cannot take vitamin pills, I throw up just thinking about them! Try childrens vitamins, liquid form, taken after eating. Maybe the coffee and the vitamin mix is irritating the lining of your stomach. I've recently experienced mid sternum pain and started to freak with the new symptom. A couple of gas x strips and it went away! I'm like you and I love my coffee; it's going to be on of the things I miss most. I'm glad to hear that its not your heart, but I know you are frustrated not knowing what is causing your problems.

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   Posted 8/14/2010 4:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Kittehmom,
I can have coffee, a frappocino from starbucks without pain. Maybe if you milk it alot it won't hurt you.
I can eat chocolate coffee beans, about four at a time, too.
But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone pre-nissen.
Joy

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Alcie
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   Posted 8/14/2010 9:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Kittehmom - You may have an idea there. It could be a med mix causing the heaving problem. OTC, herbals and foods can cause problems when combined that they don't when taken separately - just like Rx med combinations!

I had an incident of nausea needing Zofran today quite a while after eating a few cashews, but right after taking my vitamin. After checking my food and med log, yep! there was the noontime tramadol!

Joy - I've gone off coffee for a week now. It was already almost all decaf and 1/3 milk. I'm thinking it could be the acid, maybe the acid combined with the tramadol? I replaced the coffee with a cup of green tea. Since I was already hardly getting any caffeine I don't miss it horribly.

I'll skip the cashews and vitamins and see if the refluxing/stomach heaving against the (hopefully still intact) new valve/wrap.

Combining ideas from posters and my own food log may be providing some clues to the reflux mystery. Thanks guys! Of course there is still the question of why it all started with taking Darvocet and trying to throw up.
Alcie
 
 

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   Posted 8/14/2010 9:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Alcie-
I bet kittehmom maybe on to something. I had this problem about a year ago. It took me a couple weeks to figure it out. Sorry I didn't remember that. I remember how horrible it was to nausea every morning.

Take care,
Bill
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Alcie
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   Posted 8/15/2010 9:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Bill and others -
I think you're all onto the cause of the current refluxing/heaving (gotta find a name for the little jumps that aren't actual reflux, just stomach heaving and unhappy). I forgot to eat right with my morning pills and tea and the stomach went off on me again.

Since nothing seems to be coming into the esophagus with the little heaves when I'm vertical, I'm hopeful the wrap is there even if stretched or something. I still have the sore throat after 2 1/2 weeks. But I have a lot of post-nasal drip going on - seeing ENT Tuesday - really bad deviated septum from airbag broken nose may be causing chronic sinus infections.

At least I know coffee is not the entire culprit, although it could contribute to the irritation. That probably still needs some weeks to heal. I have to find some more things to drink. I've always hated water. I'll stay off the vitamin, maybe look for a different one.

Keeping the food/meds log is helping!
Alcie
 
 

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   Posted 8/15/2010 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Alcie, hope you are feeling better. My husband, found something for me today, that I think will be a blessing for sure after my surgery on Friday :). He brought home slim fast cappucino flavor and it is delicious... I know I can't have coffee after the surgery, but I'm thinking a warm smidge of this will at least satisfy my taste. I'm getting ready to post the "whys and how comes" of my wonderful husband's search for flavor for me.

Bless each and every one of you. I've spent hours and hours starting at page 155 reading your posts and I am so much calmer and more centered and I may have found a backbone I didn't know existed, courtesy of all of you who've suffered so and are so brave.
C

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   Posted 8/15/2010 4:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry guys I'm going to jump on my nautral healing bandwagon again. Alcie I really think you should try aloe vera juice and New Zealand Manuka honey to help heal the inflammation in your stomach and esophagus. Both of these things really helped me when I had lots of inflammation.
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