barium swallow shows reflux after fundo whats this mean

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joe1619
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   Posted 9/17/2010 2:04 PM (GMT -6)   
so the tech said i had esophghitis but the nurse said barium did not show this.  she did say my wrap was intact and fine but i had persistent mild reflux,  is this normal should i have reflux after fundo..i thought he did it too loose

dencha
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   Posted 9/17/2010 4:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joe,
It depends. You're just two weeks out from surgery. It's likely that you're having some reflux getting past your swollen wrap. It's pretty early to get a determination as to whether or not your wrap will, in the long run, provide you with protection from reflux.
I know how frustrating it is for you, believe me. I've been there, and done that. It's hard to wait.
Good luck with everything...hopefully with full healing you will no longer have the problem.
Personally, I think it's too soon to be sure of anything.
Take care, and hang in there!
Denise

joe1619
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   Posted 9/17/2010 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
denise, i havent talked to doc but i had a feeling day 2 it was not tight enough, based on no swallowing issues i felt like nothing was done except all the pain. my wife reminds me in the consult he said i would have my reflux return to normal that it was essentially impossible to eliminate it without shutting the les completely. if thats the case then if everyone did a barium would all have reflux. i dont get it. my wife is about ready to throw me out of the house as i have discussed a redo with another surgeon. she says ive went way off in deep end. honestly i went all in on this as they say in texas hold em. i knew the risks and figured id cure the gerd/lpr and have some other lifelong issues, but is was worth it. but now i feel like i was hosed. the radiologist told me he would look at my last barium and see if it was better or worse. if its better i think i will calm a little, if its worse god only knows. will have to talk about anxiety with kitt :) on that forum plus it didnt help when i asked for more than 2 weeks off work and the dr. refused

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   Posted 9/17/2010 9:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Joe - I can't believe your Dr refused you more than 2 weeks off work. What type work do you do? I have a purely desk job and my Dr was very reluctant to let me go back even half days after 2 weeks. I'm going back Monday but I know I should have asked for a note as well to be able to wear casual clothes. We can wear jeans or shorts but the ones we can wear are all very binding and I'm so swollen and tender, any pressure at all is so painful.. I wish I could afford to stay out longer but I'm the primary income for our family and can't afford to stay on STD and the pay is only 70% of my normal salary plus I will have all kinds of medical bills coming in as had not met the max out of pocket yet for mine and my husband's insurance (I keep double coverage due to various medical issues I currently have including lupus) so may still be looking at bills of several thousand dollars even with 2 insurances. When the pain and swelling started in earnest I saw my Dr yesterday and told him I would like to do half days next week and full days the week after. I'm salary so I'm used to working 10-12 hour days on a regular basis.
I see you are struggling with more issues - I sure know the feeling and I've had to go back on Protonix once a day and Carafate when needed- I sure hope I can get off them as I thought this would be a "cure all" - it's still better than before but I sure would not consider a re-do.

Sirkit
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   Posted 9/18/2010 1:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joe,
It sounds like you're way early in the healing process to begin discussing a redo. At your stage I still was having reflux that gradually disappeared as the swelling went down and the wrap healed. I can't imagine a decent surgeon actually considering doing a redo this early in the healing stage unless there was a clear defect in the structure of the wrap (such as herniation). I also had no problems swallowing or burping after the surgery; I considered myself lucky.

Please give yourself time to heal. You have had a major surgery and it takes some time for things to settle after a surgery. There are numerous stories across this board describing reflux symptoms after the surgery and for weeks afterwards, just like you, just like me.

If you need more time of work I would suggest speaking with a GP and explaining the situation. GP's are used to hearing it all and are typically more compassionate than surgeons (though my surgeon was the opposite).

dencha
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   Posted 9/18/2010 7:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joe,
Your surgeon's lack of experience is showing in the way he is communicating to you regarding what your expectations should be post surgery. At your stage in the game, I was a long way from recovery, and was eating only tiny amounts of food. As I said, the reflux should calm down, but not after the swelling goes down and healing has progressed.

While it is too soon to discuss a redo, I can understand your thinking about it, and I don't think it's a totally bad thing to consider. I also determined that I would have a redo if necessary, early in my recovery. As I've said, I was coughing hard and nonstop because of asthma/lung infection, and I knew that I was likely doing damage. With me, having reflux is not an option. and I very well may have a redo at some point. I'm now going to an asthma doc who is exploring what's going on with me, and is very suspicious that I did damage to my wrap and am getting enough reflux to get my lungs going. (I guess it doesn't take much.)

At this point, you just need to go with the flow. Give yourself a chance to see what your results are (it will take months) before jumping the gun. Take whatever meds you need to be comfortable, and just heal.

Take care,
Denise

joe1619
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   Posted 9/18/2010 6:00 PM (GMT -6)   
denise you did get some relief though right? for me my throat hurts so bad it was hard to eat before. now i cannot go the bathroom because of all the anxiety meds. anyone know how to keep mouth moist, it hurts when its dry because its burned

couchtater
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   Posted 9/18/2010 7:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Drink lot's of water and take mineral oil or miralax.
Joy

dencha
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   Posted 9/19/2010 8:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joe,
Don't go anywhere without a bottle of water. Your dry mouth is likely caused by your anxiety meds, not the reflux. Drink, drink, drink...little sips if your wrap doesn't like to swallow water.

I did not get relief during the first weeks. They are very challenging. Many, like you, worry about the wrap not working. It's a common worry. I had it myself! There is so much healing going on that it's hard to say whether things are going to straighten around. You can't rush it, though. You just have to go through the motions, and eat carefully for a while.

Are you sleeping with your head elevated? Many go right to flat sleeping, but I found that it put pressure on my wrap. I actually still sleep with my head elevated. It just feels better. Some people might not want to hear that, but it's true. Many can manage flat. I can't. Still, I feel my surgery was a success, as my lungs are better than they were before surgery--even with the quirks.

Hey...heal (it will take months) then see how you feel. At that point you can make a decision about where to go from there. It's way too soon to have any idea what's going to happen.

I know it's hard to wait. I know you have worries about your surgeon. Still, you're healing inside, and there's no telling how things will turn out in the end. Try to be patient. I know it's hard.

Take care and hang in there!
Denise

joe1619
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   Posted 9/21/2010 5:21 PM (GMT -6)   
im hurting and the dry mouth hurts the already burnt larynx i dring lots of water. may have drank too much today my stomach hurts. i sleep in a chair and cant sleep in bed. i want to shew gum but i didnt think us fundo folks could do this. i feel i did it for nothing. especially when barium showed reflux. surgeon said if i need a redo someone else has to do it. thats what i get going with an inexperienced doc thats done 50-100. guess im an idiot
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