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dianadunk
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   Posted 11/18/2010 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello!  I have been reading all the posts on this procedure... I have had GERD horribly for years... so I had the procedure last week. So far so good, I knew I would lose weight, which I need to. So far I am down 8 pounds. But, I am not able to eat much still. Even potatoes are irritating my stomach.  No reflux anymore YAY! But I am having LOTS of spasms... LOTS! Called the Dr and he said it is normal and they should decrease gradually.  I researched my surgeon well, he has done 500+ of these nissen wraps. So, I will keep on reading and learning!
I also suffer from Crohns, sacroilitis, and chronic constant iritis!
Diana

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   Posted 11/18/2010 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Diana,
 
Hello and welcome to HealingWell.  I am glad you joined us.  I know you will be hearing from members of our Wrapped Club and they are truly wise !  They are also very supportive so stick with us !
 
Kindly,
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couchtater
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   Posted 11/18/2010 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   
You're still new in the healing. When I was at your point all I could do was drink broth, eat jello, and suck on juice pops.
My doctor had me on a strict diet of liquids until week 3. Then pourable foods for a couple of weeks. Then soft foods for a few more weeks. Then slowly add solids.
I'd stay away from potatoes. Even though they are soft they have a tendency to get stuck at this point. No bread, steak, or potatoes until week 12.
Joy

mam1298
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   Posted 11/19/2010 7:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Recovery takes a long time, well at least for me. I had a full wrap and hernia repair done on March 1st of this year. I noticed a couple days ago that I am not running to the sink to "throw up" saliva when my esophagus goes into a spasm when I drink fluid while eating. I can now stay seated if I chose unless I want to get rid of the extra saliva but I don't have to go through the throw up motion anymore. I too lost about 20 lbs which I needed.
If you would have asked me back in April if I would have this surgery again, my answer would have been NO WAY!!!
I rarely have any GERD issues or indigestion problems. So the surgery was a success but as I said, the road of recovery is a long one.
Patience is needed for this. I wished I had known about this website before I had the surgery as I could have prepared myself and I wouldn't have gotten so depressed about my decision.
Hang in there and take it slow. I was given the best advice by a poster here that I needed to pamper myself and allow my body to heal. Once I started taking the one day at a time attitude everything seemed to be much better, emotionally for me.
The gas you will get will be less down the road but remember to have GAS X or something to help with the pain and bloat you might get.
Best of luck to you and just remember to pamper yourself and allow a good year for a full recovery.
Nissen Fundaplication 3/1/2010 (full wrap)
Hiatal Hernia 3/1/2010
Thyroid Removal 1990

dianadunk
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   Posted 11/19/2010 8:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Ya'll, and I am so avoiding mashed potatoes now! I am having a hard time eating anything as I am not at all hungry! Just have to force myself. I drink one ensure a day, and that is all the protein I am getting. I have my post op with the Dr on Monday. And, just found out yesterday that my grandson has whooping cough! The dr prescribed a z-pack as a preventative since I am on TNF meds for the arthritis and crohns.
 
Diana

dencha
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   Posted 11/19/2010 10:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dianadunk,
Welcome to the Wrapped Club at Healing Well! yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah We're so glad you've joined us! I found this forum as I was looking for information when I was close to the decision to have surgery. Thank goodness for this forum...it gave me the courage and information I needed to make the decision to have the surgery. I didn't really have a choice, since my asthma was out of control as a result of reflux.

My surgeon put me on liquids in the hospital, soft foods at home, and on Day 5 when I saw him for a post op visit, he put me on solid foods that could be chewed to a liquid. That gives you a tremendous variety. At this stage in your recovery, it's expected to not be able to eat more than a tiny amount at a time.

Your stomach is swollen, and my surgeon told me that the swelling is interpreted as fullness.

Also, when telling me that I could eat solid foods, he actually brought up mashed potato as an example of a soft food that can get stuck at the wrap site.

If you make sure that you take small bites of solid foods, and chew, chew, chew until it is liquid, you shouldn't have any problems at all. If whatever it is you're eating doesn't chew to a liquid, spit it out.

I think some surgeons don't trust their patients to be aware of their eating, and expect they'll forget and swallow something that will cause problems. I never had an ounce of trouble following the eating protocol I described. When you go to your surgeon, see what he/she says about what you should do.

Bread should be toasted, and if you want beef, use a slow cooker, and cook it to oblivion. If you can't chew it to a complete liquid, don't swallow it.

Expect your swallowing/spasms to get worse before it gets better. Your wrap will be at maximum swelling at week 2, then begin to resolve and get better.

Don't drink ice water, as it can cause spasms. Warm tea can help food go down and calm down spasms.

Good luck with your recovery! You've definitely come to the right place.
Ask questions...anything you're worried about. It's likely someone here has experienced it.
Take care,
Denise

dianadunk
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   Posted 11/19/2010 11:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Denise! I also have asthma, and the reflux as causing so many problems, my teeth were rotting ( not a nice thought!), and my tonsils were eat up, looked like swiss cheese. Once they mentioned the surgery I jumped on it!

dencha
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   Posted 11/19/2010 12:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dianadunk,
You definitely made the right decision. I found the recovery much better than I expected, and better than the reflux symptoms. Those of us with asthma don't have a choice, and it sounds like your symptoms were bad enough that the surgery was the only option no matter what!

Be patient. If surrender to your recovery, and follow it wherever it goes, you'll find that things go much easier. Let it lead you. Don't try to force it, don't get frustrated, relax, and let your recovery take its sweet time. You will get better...we've all been where you are.

Have a great day!
Denise

ZhyKitty
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   Posted 11/19/2010 2:17 PM (GMT -6)   
HI Dianadunk!

Day 17 here - you wont believe how much things are going to change when you get just a bit further out.
I just had my follow up yesterday and my surgeon said I could try anything I wanted to at this point except bread and meat.
I've discovered that rice and mashed potatoes still get stuck - and most foods still dont appeal to me - but I'm able to eat like 3/4 of a cup of anything that does if I go REALLY slowly and if it will sit on my stomach. Don't feel bad if yours is still really touchy. Mine was too, especially when I was at the point where you are now. Every day gets a little easier, a little better. I know that you're loving not having the GERD - I know I do....to me the little things we are dealing with in healing are nothing compared to that....
...but keep on talking about them because it can be kind of quirky! lol
You're not alone, and it's just going to keep on getting better. : )

Cat

dianadunk
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   Posted 11/19/2010 5:27 PM (GMT -6)   
oh thanks guys! Day 8 has been the worst... does not help that I am not able to take my crohns meds and it is flaring bad... I will keep you all posted and thanks again for the kind and encouraging words!!

Diana

dianadunk
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   Posted 11/21/2010 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hanging in pretty well today, but having diarrhea ( I also have crohns), not very hungry, but I will survive!!! I think I may be "dumping", not pleasant!

Alcie
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   Posted 11/21/2010 8:02 PM (GMT -6)   
If you feelyou aren't getting enough protein, you can always eat baby food. Add a little salt and it's not bad.

Chicken is considered "soft diet" because it can be chewed (or thrown in the food processer) until it's mush. Stay away from beef for a month. Avoid bread and anything sticky, like bananas for a while yet. Potatoes are ok if you add milk or water until it's like a thin milkshake.

Anything that triggered reflux before will continue to trigger some reaction. For me it's tachycardia.
Alcie
 
 

Hamsa
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   Posted 11/22/2010 10:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I am also new; I just had the surgery 12 days ago. I can't believe how exhausted I am even though I can have the soft diet. The doctor told me to drink more water and I'm doing that. I read another thread where people reported being tired for a long time, so that comforts me, but I'd be so grateful for any responses.

couchtater
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   Posted 11/22/2010 1:47 PM (GMT -6)   
You're consuming fewer calories right now so you're weak. Try some high protein shakes to supplement your diet. Muscle milk, boost, or ensure are good.
Joy

dianadunk
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   Posted 11/22/2010 3:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I had my post o today, and he said everything I was feeling was very normal. He said I was right on track... and I feel a little better today than I did yesterday! :) I ate a piece of Tilapia today, YUM, it was so good! But I fill up very very fast, and eat very very slow!

dencha
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   Posted 11/23/2010 11:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi dianadunk,
Your eating is totally normal at this point, and the amount you can eat will gradually increase, as your stomach swelling subsides.
Glad to hear you've had a good visit with your surgeon, and are feeling better!
Things will get better...just relax and give your body time to adjust and recover.
Take care,
Denise

ZhyKitty
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   Posted 11/23/2010 12:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Dianadunk - you'll be able to eat more every few days....I'm on day 21 post Nissen and last night I was able to eat 6 bites of sweet potato without problems and a bite of chicken - which got stuck but eventually went down and didnt upset my stomach when it got there. You have to remember to go slow and chew your food to a liquid when you do eat.
Personally, I love being able to get full so fast. I had some weight to lose and it's coming off beautifully.
I'm a little weak but I do whey protein shakes to help with that - you might try it, they taste wonderful. GNC sells Whey protein in lots of flavors and you add them to 1% milk. Good and good for you as long as you're drinking enough water.
Hang in there! Every day gets a little better! : )

Cat

dianadunk
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   Posted 11/27/2010 12:06 PM (GMT -6)   
day 16, things have been going well until yesterday. I began running a fever, low grade, and it comes and goes. My head feels like is will explode... I am sure it is my sinuses... yuck! thanks for the advice onthe protein shakes, I am going to try that. The one thing that is driving me NUTS is the spasms.... awful!
Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving!
Diana

couchtater
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   Posted 11/27/2010 1:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, I had painful hiccups all the time.
Joy

dencha
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   Posted 11/28/2010 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dianadunk,
You've probably already done this, but if you're running a fever, be sure to call your surgeon to report it.
Hope you had a great Thanksgiving, and are feeling better today!
Denise

Johanas
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   Posted 1/9/2011 1:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Had Nissen Wrap Re-Do 7 days ago.  I used a top surgeon at a top grade hospital, but am getting worried.  I was told to begin full liquids on day 3, including foods like grits.  On day four I was able to eat a half portion of grits as well as cream of wheat on day 5, but by the end of day 5, I could not even get one bite down.  Things have only gotten worse.  as of now, I can barely swallow one can of ensure per day, plus a few ozs. of apple juice.  Even one tiny bite of grits or pea soup gets stuck.  I am also feeling reflux at night, while lying down.
 
My first surgery was five years ago by a different surgeon.  I was eating soft eggs by day 7.  It worked great for a few years, then everything came back.  X-Ray showed it came undone.
 
Last week, I was told when I left the hospital that I would be on soft foods by day 14.  I don't see that happening.  Plus, I am scheduled to fly to Italy in less than 3 weeks.  I will be there for 10 days.  I don't know how I am going to survive the trip.  Please advise.

Hamsa
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   Posted 1/9/2011 4:00 PM (GMT -6)   

I had the same question after my surgery, which was on Nov. 9. I was supposed to go to Paris for Christmas, but I quickly realized it would be a bad idea. If you can postpone your trip you should definitely do it. This surgery is a significant shock to the system. Besides that, you need to be in a comfortable place so you can manage your diet. It's essential to eat small quantities of soft things. Pasta may not be good for quite a while. I'm two months out now and I still have to be careful. Today I gave in and had a few pomegranate seeds, then I ate some quinoa too fast and it was horrible.

If there's any way not to go on that trip, you should not go. I asked people what I should do about my trip and that's the answer I got. I'm mercifully glad I followed their advice.

Hamsa

 


couchtater
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   Posted 1/9/2011 7:55 PM (GMT -6)   
The food getting stuck is from the swelling inside. It's very common. The reflux is from the food not getting by the wrap and getting trapped. You need to switch back to liquids atleast for another week or two. Until the swelling goes down. Keep your meals small 1/2 cup to 2/3 cup.

I'd wait on the trip if you can.
Joy
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