Restrictive diet

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judy02
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   Posted 11/28/2010 3:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone. I guess I'm just having a bit of a down day with my symptoms. I just wondered with everyone here, with your symptoms, how restrictive do you find you have to be with your diet?
 
I've discovered I am sensitive to wheat, as well as caffiene, anything acidic and fatty.
 
I dunno, a diet with no wheat, very little fat and acidic stuff just seems very restrictive, and sometimes I can feel a bit disheartened, and I hope I don't have to be like this forever. Although when I stick to this diet, I do feel well again so I suppose I should be happy that I have found something that works, and helps me, but part of me is also hoping I'm not going to have to be this restrictive forever :(
 
Unfortunately, I've gone down the prescription meds route, and a few different PPI's but they don't seem to work for me.

couchtater
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   Posted 11/28/2010 4:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Is this gerd related or allergy related?
My diet is restricted from peanuts, peanut butter, and very greasy foods. I've found after my surgery through trial and error that these will cause irritations to me. Nothing else affects me.

You will be restricted for about two to three months after surgery from those things.
Joy

judy02
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   Posted 11/28/2010 5:07 PM (GMT -6)   
couchtater said...
Is this gerd related or allergy related?
My diet is restricted from peanuts, peanut butter, and very greasy foods. I've found after my surgery through trial and error that these will cause irritations to me. Nothing else affects me.

You will be restricted for about two to three months after surgery from those things.
Hi, to be honest I'm not sure, maybe a combination of both :S Wheat seems to be a food intolerance/allergy, and fatty and acidic stuff tends to aggrivate acid problems. I haven't had surgery though, usually if I follow a strict diet I can keep the acid problems away, but it's a VERY strict diet, sigh. Maybe I'm just moaning too much, and had a bad day. I caved and ate quite a lot of chocolate yesterday and am now paying the price lol. Sometimes I can go weeks or months of being good then have a bad moment. I did only give up wheat a few weeks ago though so maybe it's still taking time to get out of my system?

couchtater
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   Posted 11/28/2010 6:15 PM (GMT -6)   
It takes sometimes two months for an allergen to get out of your body.
Joy

Alcie
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   Posted 11/28/2010 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Judy -
You need to find out if you have celiac or just a wheat allergy. My allergist considers intolerances or sensitivities to be allergies. Celiac and allergies and intolerances can all develop and are not necessarily something you are born with.

The gold standard for celiac is still the biopsy. If you have celiac you have to avoid wheat and gluten religiously. With the intolerances you can have a little. That's where I am.

Are you sure it's really wheat allergy? Have you had skin test? Lots of things are added to wheat products. I'm very sensitive to the sulfite preservative used in the frozen dough used for pizza crust and all the baked goods made in grocery stores. (They don't really mix their own dough!)

You can do a "challenge test" if you are only suspecting wheat allergy. Find a pita bread that has no extra stuff added, no other grains, etc. Cut a small piece of one, about a tablespoon worth. Eat that and wait 20 minutes. If you have no reaction you can eat two pieces and wait another 20 minutes. Then you eat 4 pieces, then 8, then 16 and stop. If you don't have a reaction you can figure it's not the wheat but something that was added.
Alcie
 
 

judy02
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   Posted 11/29/2010 4:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Hmmm, I don't know. I'm having another blood test for celiac soon and hopefully a biopsy as well. Although I've been eating gluten products now, which don't have wheat in, but have barley or rye in them and I seem to be ok with them. I also don't have any bowel problems, it's just upper GI symptoms, so I don't know if that rules out celiac or not? But all the main wheat based food, bread, pasta, cakes, biscuits seem to not sit with me well. Biscuits affect me the worst.

Thing is, part of me is fed up of experimenting, I am sick of being ill all the time, making myself worse again isn't really tempting...

Post Edited (judy02) : 11/29/2010 3:20:41 AM (GMT-7)


Alcie
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   Posted 11/29/2010 6:02 AM (GMT -6)   
The blood test for celiac is not highly accurate, gives false negatives. Eat a bit of wheat instead of avoiding it in the days before the test. If you avoid wheat it will surely show up negative. You should also get a scratch test for wheat. Allergy is not the same as celiac.

The people I know with celiac get severe symptoms - belly pain, vomiting, diarrhea - from eating wheat.

Allergy could trigger gastric reflux (GERD), hives, itching, also belly pain, but should not be as severe.

There are preservatives in refrigerated and frozen doughs. These are as likely to cause intolerance reaction, often migraine headache, as a reaction to wheat.
Alcie
 
 

judy02
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   Posted 11/29/2010 8:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I've heard the skin prick test for food allergies is not 100% accurate as well though.

I'm eating gluten containing products, just not ones that include wheat, and as celiac means not eating gluten, I'm thinking it should still be more reliable as I'm not going gluten free even if I'm not including wheat if that makes sense.

AcidAway
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   Posted 12/2/2010 12:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Check out this post for a list of alkaline (anti-acid) and acid foods.

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=1942384

You may be cutting stuff out of your diet that you don't need to. For example, I've found that for me onions and spices actually suppress acid reflux.

judy02
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   Posted 12/2/2010 6:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks. I'm just really fed up today :( All it takes is just one moment of eating too much of the wrong thing (in my case, chocolate haha) and I'm ill for days, or even weeks later! I can't go out, and socialise or enjoy my life anymore because of how I feel.

AcidAway
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   Posted 12/2/2010 10:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Here's something easy to try that might work for you. Go buy some chewable calcium pills or some of the calcium supplements that you swallow with water. Take/eat 2 every hour for 4 hours and see if this helps your acid reflux.

Before I switched my diet to where I was eating mostly alkaline foods, I would take up to 10 calcium pills at a time (5000 mg of calcium) to stop my acid reflux. It worked great! I think on some days I even took up to 20 calcium pills (10,000 mg). However, I found that if I took too many, I would get diarhea. That's why I'm suggesting that you start off with just 2 pills per hour.

Calcium is a great acid neutralizer and you may find that this will work for you. I actually take the calcium-magnesium-zinc supplements now as all three minerals are great acid neutralizers.

And instead of chocolate, you might want to try molasses. Molasses is an alkaline (anti-acid) sweetener that has tons of calcium and other minerals that neutralize acid. When I'm craving something sweet, I will pour some molasses into a bowl and just kind of dab away at with a spoon until it's gone. People think I'm wierd for eating molasses this way, but I don't get acid reflux!

I had to try molasses a few times before I developed a taste for it since it has such a strong taste. However, I've found that I can satisfy my sweet tooth with molasses and no longer crave chocolate. As you can see from the list of foods I previously posted, sugar and cocoa, the main ingredients in chocolate are highly acid-causing. Molasses is in the More Alkaline category which means its a fairly strong anti-acid.

Alcie
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   Posted 12/2/2010 11:18 AM (GMT -6)   
There's a post from Percycat on the allergy forum where I and another have responded with suggestions on how to keep a food log and how to do challenge testing. Don't do challenge testing at home if you have life-threatening reactions!

My reflux was triggered by food intolerances/sensitivities, or as my allergist calls them, allergies. It starts as a stomach problem, then it goes into tachycardia.
Alcie
 
 

judy02
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   Posted 12/2/2010 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the tips guys :)
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