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sissy2011
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   Posted 1/30/2011 1:50 PM (GMT -6)   
      hey i am new to this site and just had a nissen wrap done on the 18th of jan. i have had severe reflux for about 15 years. and my dr told me that i could eat regular food, that i just need to chew it up good. well i have been tryin to do that but i mostly eat soft stuff like jello, oatmeal, ect. but i am havin so much trouble when i swollow. and right now my throat is hurtin so bad and my stomach is burnin. plus i find that i am gettin very depressed with this. i have already lost over 20 lbs, and i really need to loss the weight, but i want to eat. im tired of soft food. plus i cant do nothing, all i do is sit around or lay in bed. and thats not me. i love to clean house and work in the yard. is this normal to be so depressed that all i want to do is cry and im not supose to do that cause my throat closes everytime i do cry.  i really hope this makes some sence. if you any ideals that my help me please let me no. i feel like im goin crazy. im so scared i will do something to undo this surgery.plus my dr said that i have a tube in my throat, cause everytime i swollow i fell something, is that normal also?

LdyJane
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   Posted 1/30/2011 2:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Dr.'s instructions vary, but I'm very surprised that he said you could eat regular food. My instructions, if I remember correctly, was liquids or very soft foods for 4 - 6 weeks; you're only 2 weeks out and you're probably pushing it.
It is not unusual for people to feel depressed after this surgery too; you wonder if you've done the right thing, or have you really screwed things up!
I think you're pushing food and that is aggravating the already swollen esophagus; this is a major, major, surgery and you have to allow yourself time to heal.
If you're not taking any meds, you may try childrens motrin, this will help with the inflammation and swelling.
I don't quite understand your statement about having a tube down your throat, but my sense is that you've moved to quickly with your foods and you've probably aggravated the esophagus.

couchtater
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   Posted 1/30/2011 2:26 PM (GMT -6)   
LadyJane's right. It sounds like you're pushing the solid foods too soon. I was on liquids until the fourth week.
I know you miss the solid foods, but right now you sound like you are too swollen inside to enjoy anything but things that turn to liquid in your mouth.
Here are some good ideas for food which you should be very filling for you: Jell-O, muscle milk, Gatorade, Edy's fruit bars, chicken broth, beef broth, vanilla pudding. I lived off of these things for the first four weeks.
The most important thing to do is to chew your food very well and not to eat more than a half cup to 2/3 cup of food at a meal.
Joy

dencha
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   Posted 1/30/2011 2:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Sissy,
Welcome to Healing Well! So glad you've joined us. You're now a member of our Wrapped Club! yeah yeah yeah yeah

Unfortunately, doctors tend to send us off with very little guidance. That's why sites like this are so helpful.

You are now approaching the most swollen your wrap will be. I'm not sure if your doctor told you, but your wrap becomes increasingly more swollen over the first two weeks. At the two week point your swallowing is probably the most difficult it's going to be. Don't panic. This too, will pass.

I also had a surgeon who released me to solid foods once I saw him at the five day mark. Surgeons have different eating protocols. Many will say liquids for a few weeks, then soft foods, etc. However many others will tell you that you can go ahead and eat solid food--with the caveat that it is chewed to a liquid.

Personally, I was very happy with the eating protocol I was given. My surgeon said that some soft foods can cause more problems than solids chewed to a liquid. He mentioned a "bolus of mashed potatoes" that can get stuck at the wrap site in early weeks.

He told me not to eat bread or steak, but gave me the responsibility of making good choices.

If you take small bites, and chew, chew, chew, until whatever it is you are eating is a full liquid, you'll be just fine. The main thing is small bites. Don't swallow anything that won't chew to a liquid.

Surprisingly, crackers and toast chew nicely to a liquid. Just experiment.

Most importantly as others have said, take it easy on amounts, and understand that your upper GI tract has been revised, so it is very inflamed and swollen. Don't worry. You will get better. Don't focus on the bad things right now. Get your mind thinking of other things...read a good book, watch TV, invite a friend over for a visit. If you sit and feel sorry for yourself (we've all been where you are, believe me!), you'll just feel worse. Don't let your mind got there. If it starts wandering into negative territory, turn it right around!

Glad you've joined us. You'll get lots of support and answers to questions here. This place was such a godsend as I recovered from my surgery.
Take care,
Denise

LdyJane
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   Posted 1/30/2011 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I think you've gotten the best advice out there; Denise and Joy know their stuff....funny Denise, crackers were one of the few things I could eat!! Joy, very good suggestions for food choices!

sissy2011
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   Posted 1/30/2011 3:13 PM (GMT -6)   
  thank you so much for answering my post, and yes it has really frecked me out. cause my dr said that most of the swellin would be gone after the first few days. tue will 2 weeks since my surgery and like i said i just feel like i have a big knot in my throat. i still am careful about drinkin or eatin anything that is hot or cold cause he said it will cause spasms. plus i have been have severe back pain since my surgery. im used to havin back pain cause i have a rod in my back from my shoulders down to my tail bone cause i have scoliosis, but this is just a different pain like i have been liftin weights. it hurts to take a deep breath. is me bein depressed normal?

dencha
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   Posted 1/30/2011 4:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Sissy,
I suspect your back pain is related to how they moved you off the operating table after your surgery. They heave-ho and treat you like a bag of potatoes! You're dead weight, and can't help out. I've had all kinds of pains after surgery because of that. If you already have a back problem, it makes sense that that's where you'd get the pains.

So...now you know. Your wrap is soon going to reach peak swelling. You can understand then, why it's so hard to swallow.

You know that just chewing your food well isn't enough. You need to take tiny bites and chew it until it disappears. There's a difference.

So reset your outlook...choose interesting and nutritious foods that can be chewed to a complete liquid and become your own personal food processor! Tiny bites!

Stay away from ice water or iced drinks, but be sure to keep your liquids up.

You do not have a tube down your throat. I think what he meant is that there was a breathing tube down your throat when you were under general anesthesia, and that you're still feeling irritation from that.

The "lump" that you feel is the swelling and irritation. Think about it. Your upper GI tract has been revised. The doctor took the top of your stomach, wrapped it around your esophagus, and stitched it there. He also repaired a hiatal hernia. That's a lot of pulling, stretching, and stitching.

A little depression is normal, but if it continues you should contact your primary care/family doctor and discuss it with him/her. It's not good to let it get out of control. You've been through a lot, but if you understand what's happening with your recovery, and realize that you're going through what you need to go through to improve your quality of life, you can feel good about that.

At two weeks, you shouldn't be doing housework and yard work! You're recovering from major surgery! No heavy lifting--nothing over 5 pounds for 6 weeks (I believe--someone correct me if I am wrong).

Relax, take a deep breath, and think positive thoughts.
We're here for you!
Denise

dencha
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   Posted 2/1/2011 8:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Sissy,
I was thinking of you, and hope you're feeling better tonight.
Denise
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