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Trev
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   Posted 5/23/2011 3:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all it's been awhile since i posted but i have been having problem of late.

I have gotten heartburn like the rest of us but this time it's unreal sad , it all started when i went out with my mate's just over 2 week's ago, i had about 12-14 pint's of lager and a few shot's.

Ever since then i have acid reflux from hell when it start's i feel like i am unable to get a proper breath for maybe's 1hr (basically till it settle's) is this normal (Ofc i stress which probably's make's it 100x worse) ? Then after i get relief from that i get the normal burning throat which is knacking as of right now! Also pain in my back which i guess is a symptom of it.

I went to the doctor's and i asked my lung's to be checked on a precautionary measure and she said everything was fine there... And she gave me Omeprazole 20mg tablet's, now these sort of work they gave me a little relief but when the breathing hit's in nothing help's.

So basically the few question's i wonder is... Is this how it start's from one bout of bad acid (from drinking)? How long can this last for?(ever ?) And also is it normal for my breathing to be affected? I have never had any problem's in the past with my breathing whatsoever.

Cheer's for any reply's Trev.

Post Edited (Trev) : 5/23/2011 5:45:53 PM (GMT-6)


couchtater
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   Posted 5/23/2011 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Your breathing problem probably is coming from acid getting into your windpipe.
IMHO I'd not drink that heavy ever again.
Joy

Trev
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   Posted 5/23/2011 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
couchtater said...
Your breathing problem probably is coming from acid getting into your windpipe.
IMHO I'd not drink that heavy ever again.


I plan on staying off the drink for awhile now till i atleast pull myself around... How long can this episode last because it's driving me crazy cry ?

couchtater
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   Posted 5/23/2011 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   
It all depends on how much damage you did.
Joy

Trev
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   Posted 5/23/2011 6:08 PM (GMT -6)   
couchtater said...
It all depends on how much damage you did.


Hopefully it's not irreversible because i couldn't go on like this forever mad ...

I normally drink that much or close to it, but i think the problem was i vomited quite abit so must have produced alot of acid i guess :S?

mock turtle
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   Posted 5/23/2011 6:37 PM (GMT -6)   
alcohal does damage and, weakens the lower esophageal sphincter (les)

how long will this last you ask?

i suspect you may have to be as good (little or no drinking) as much as you were "bad" (drinking too much) and maybe for at least as long

heres the rub

there is research that indicates the hiatus in the crural diaphragm does as much to keep the contents of the stomach down as does the les and that stomach distention from heavy loading (food and or drink) stretches and stresses the anatomy down there giving rise to impairment

http://ajpgi.physiology.org/content/292/1/G329.full

im no professional so my advice is worth exactly what you paid for it...but if it were me id stop drinking all together until i got better and eat very small meals while hoping you have not induced a hiatal hernia and that things will in a few months time resume the proper shape

there are cases of remission with effort but the odds are not in our favor

do you know your trigger foods? and the list of do s and donts that seem to apply to most?

btw you know about laying off coffee, chocolate, spearmint peppermint etc, right?

to stop inhaling reflux let me suggest you sleep in a bed inclined at the head at least 8 inches up at the head, or in a reclining chair tilted back no more than half way.

good luck to you

Trev
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   Posted 5/27/2011 11:00 AM (GMT -6)   
couchtater said...
Sinus can't affect the reflux but reflux can affect the sinuses.
Come over to the GERD forum and we can discuss it further. We're very knowledgeable about reflux over there.


Took this from the other post i made about my sinus problem you said that my acid can also affect my sinuses is that true? Also can it be affected in causing a virla infection in my throat? And i am guessing my sinuses are draining back down my throat as nothing is coming out my nose (one side is blocked) which would explain the taste of blood sometime's?

dencha
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   Posted 5/27/2011 12:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Trev,
I'm coming into this conversation a little late, but I thought I'd weigh in with some thoughts.

When you have trouble breathing, what is it like? That would make a difference as to what the cause might be.

Yes, reflux can affect your voice, your sinuses, your lungs...lots more than just your esophagus.

You can have a flare up that heals and gets better, but it's likely that you've got an underlying issue--hiatal hernia, weak LES, etc. or no matter how much beer you drank you wouldn't be having this problem.

Now the vomiting is another issue. If you drank all that alcohol (shots, too smhair) then all that alcohol burned on the way down, and also on the way up. On the way up it was joined by lovely stomach acid, which is enough to do its own damage.

Your esophagus is likely irritated, as is your sinuses. Are you hoarse?

Does your problem happen mostly at night?
Does it bother you to eat?
Do you know basic GERD triggers? It is true that alcohol relaxes the LES and makes reflux more likely, but your symptoms are continuing long after the alcohol effects have worn off.

Have you been to a doctor? The esophagus and stomach tissue takes time to heal--longer than some other tissues.

If you can describe what your difficulty breathing sensation feels (and sounds) like, I might be able to provide some suggestions.
If this continues, a doctor visit might be a good option. There are some good prescription drugs out there that might help in your healing.
Good luck!
Denise

Trev
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   Posted 5/27/2011 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
dencha said...
Hi Trev,
I'm coming into this conversation a little late, but I thought I'd weigh in with some thoughts.

When you have trouble breathing, what is it like? That would make a difference as to what the cause might be.

Yes, reflux can affect your voice, your sinuses, your lungs...lots more than just your esophagus.

You can have a flare up that heals and gets better, but it's likely that you've got an underlying issue--hiatal hernia, weak LES, etc. or no matter how much beer you drank you wouldn't be having this problem.

Now the vomiting is another issue. If you drank all that alcohol (shots, too smhair) then all that alcohol burned on the way down, and also on the way up. On the way up it was joined by lovely stomach acid, which is enough to do its own damage.

Your esophagus is likely irritated, as is your sinuses. Are you hoarse?

Does your problem happen mostly at night?
Does it bother you to eat?
Do you know basic GERD triggers? It is true that alcohol relaxes the LES and makes reflux more likely, but your symptoms are continuing long after the alcohol effects have worn off.

Have you been to a doctor? The esophagus and stomach tissue takes time to heal--longer than some other tissues.

If you can describe what your difficulty breathing sensation feels (and sounds) like, I might be able to provide some suggestions.
If this continues, a doctor visit might be a good option. There are some good prescription drugs out there that might help in your healing.
Good luck!
Denise


Hi Denise

The breathing issue feel's like a can't get a full breath in to my lung's.

The problem breathing seem's to happen randomly but normally a few hour's after a meal.

It doesn't bother me as i am eating altough my throat does, i have never really had bad acid reflux apart from when i drink or ate to quick this just come on all of a sudden really bad.

Yeah i went to the doctor he checked my lung's and said my lung's/breathing sounded fine, and put me on 20mg Omeprazol one a day. Seem's to help so so, Also while thinking on what does Omeprazol do doe it limit the amount of stomach acid that is made?

It's really driving me crazy and the sinus headache's and tasting blood is probably making me more anxious, which in turn probably's make the problem 100x worse mad .

Also while thinking on what does Ome

Post Edited (Trev) : 5/27/2011 4:51:08 PM (GMT-6)


Trev
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   Posted 6/1/2011 6:49 PM (GMT -6)   
So... Been doing ok with my daily dosage of omeprazole and decided to try and go without it to see if i could.

Big nono it felt like i couldn't catch a proper breath and felt like every small breath was going to be my last, so i took a tablet and about 30 min's later feel's like i can breathe again altough limited but much,much better than before.

So can this last forever will i be taking omeprazole for the rest of my life? Also i plan on going to my doctor's tomorrow, is they anything is can ask to be done (i.e test's,change of medication e.t.c) ?

Cheer's

dencha
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   Posted 6/1/2011 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Trev,
If your LES is not working correctly, then yes, you will be dealing with GERD the rest of your life. I took PPI's for close to 20 years before having the Nissen surgery. I actually take one a day now, for two reasons--to protect my lungs, just in case (I never had much reflux before the surgery, and even a tiny amount could get me going) and to protect my very reactive stomach from an overabundance of acid.

Unfortunately, once you have GERD it rarely goes away. There is one caveat, though--if you are overweight, you may get rid of it with weight loss. It would at least improve.

Glad to hear that the omeprazole is working for you. You can be thankful for that. Some people get no relief at all from PPI's.

Good luck finding answers! Hope you feel better.
Denise

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   Posted 6/1/2011 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
PS
Most people who have difficulty with GERD and asthma have "silent reflux" which causes problems without causing the traditional heartburn symptoms.

I've had lots of times when my lungs were bothering me when I'd get a spirometry which showed my lungs to be just perfect. I often get the comment that my lungs are better than my docs!

Good luck!

Trev
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   Posted 6/3/2011 6:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Just read a little in to LPR quite possible what could be affecting me... As many of the symptom's clash :(.

To top this episode off i also have been put on anti's for strep throat it's all happening here !

Really at my wit's end.

Trev
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   Posted 6/5/2011 1:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all again can LPR cause a localised stabbing sensation in your throat? As i am getting pain in the left side of my throat and these anti's are not clearing it up however they have cleared up my sinus problem (which i also reckon was caused my lpr)...

The sensation feel's like they is something stuck in my throat and pushing up agaisnt the side of it (from inside ofc).

Post Edited (Trev) : 6/5/2011 2:31:02 PM (GMT-6)


couchtater
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   Posted 6/5/2011 2:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Could be from the strep.
Joy

Trev
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   Posted 6/5/2011 3:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah i thought that also i am just so under the weather atm it's bad :(... Sinus Infection, Strep Throat and Some shape of acid reflux that is affecting my breathing :(!

Popping to the doctor's again tomorrow to explain how i am feeling because i feel like that i am getting no further forward i have felt like this for 4 week's now, just feel so fatigued and ran down.

couchtater
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   Posted 6/5/2011 8:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Get well soon.
Joy

Trev
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   Posted 6/8/2011 5:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Just a little update been refered to the ENT on the 22nd June so guess they may find something there, in a sense hopefully not or maybes something minor.

Feel's good to see a decent doctor that listened and asked the right question's!

Trev
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   Posted 6/23/2011 8:53 AM (GMT -6)   
I went to see the ENT and he said that my breathing is ok and he has asked for me to get a barium swallow done, so guess i am on the right track.

Also i have a question if any one has ever had a throat scope done... Has any one had this done with out anesthetic? As the doctor done mine without anything and went all the way down my windpipe because i could feel it in my chest! So fricking uncomfortable.

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   Posted 6/23/2011 9:57 AM (GMT -6)   
I also have breathing problems realted to reflux. Ive went to emergencies once and they said that everything was OK, they did x-rays and nothing came up. I suppose that if acid had damaged my lungs it would of came up.

If you have a weak LES (lower esophageal sphicter), a hiatal hernia or a motility disorder than you probably will have GERD or LPR (silent reflux) until you get a long-term solution.

Lets see what comes up on the barium! For now, watch your diet very carefully and stay away from alcohol!

couchtater
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   Posted 6/23/2011 10:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I asked for sedation for my endoscopies.
Joy

Trev
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   Posted 6/23/2011 10:27 AM (GMT -6)   
couchtater said...
I asked for sedation for my endoscopies.


Yeah i thought it was strange that i was offered nothing, i wasn't sure how far he was going to go down he never mentioned... All he did was put some jelly substance on the end of it and inserted it in my nose... I dunno why i wasn't offered anything at all... It all felt a bit rushed as they were running 1 hour late to start with rolleyes

Jeronimo said...
I also have breathing problems realted to reflux. Ive went to emergencies once and they said that everything was OK, they did x-rays and nothing came up. I suppose that if acid had damaged my lungs it would of came up.

If you have a weak LES (lower esophageal sphicter), a hiatal hernia or a motility disorder than you probably will have GERD or LPR (silent reflux) until you get a long-term solution.

Lets see what comes up on the barium! For now, watch your diet very carefully and stay away from alcohol!


Yeah i will be carful on what i eat now and defo stay away from the alcohol !

Trev
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   Posted 6/23/2011 4:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Just a quick question does anyone know what did i actually get done?

They wouldn't have done a bronchoscopy without local anesthetic would they? And also i didn't have to fast or not drink fluid's as they was nothing on the letter.

So that only leave's a laryngoscopy to check my breathing was fine and no obstruction's... This sound about right?

I should have asked the doctor when he said you have any question's but i was just so pleased to get the scope outta my nose that i wanted to up and run.

couchtater
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   Posted 6/23/2011 9:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Most likely it was laryngoscopy.
Joy

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   Posted Yesterday 3:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Can Acid Relfux cause bad back pain? I have a bad pain in between my shoulder blade's.
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