Stomach pain 4 months after Nissen

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TheBadger
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   Posted 6/20/2011 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

I had a Nissen Fundo just over 4 months ago now and have been eating most things for a while now. Bready things I have avoided mostly as they seemed to give me an upset stomach. However the past few days since I returned from holiday in France I've developed these quite severe stabbing type of pains in my stomach. When I press my stomach the pain is even worse. While I was on holiday I did eat a lot of crusty bread which I'm not normally used to since the op an also, it being France I drunk more than my fair share of wine and spirits. Could this be what's causing the pain? I would have thought though after 4 months I would be ok to indulge in this. Its not the first time I've had alcohol since the op. The pain is actually getting worse this evening :(

Gritty
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   Posted 6/20/2011 3:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Ouch! You could be overdoing it but then again I'm eating and drinking normally after 13 weeks. It could be gas pain. Did you have a 360 degree wrap or 270? I'd check it out with your surgeon if you can just in case it's something else. I still get some pain from my scars if I've been doing a lot of bending or lifting so maybe that's it. Keep us posted how it goes.

couchtater
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   Posted 6/20/2011 3:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Sounds like you've irritated your stomach. You might be having some gastritis. See your doctor.
Joy

dencha
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   Posted 6/20/2011 4:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi TheBadger,
Welcome to Healing Well! Sorry to hear you're experiencing discomfort. Of course you know best how you're feeling, and as Gritty said, be sure to ask your surgeon or GI doc about what you're experiencing.

Like Joy, when I read your post I immediately thought of gastritis/irritated wrap. When your stomach becomes inflamed, so does your wrap, as it is made of stomach.

If you have good insurance you might ask your GI doc to prescribe some Carafate Suspension, which is great for coating your esophagus, wrap, and stomach, and therefore help in healing.

It would make sense to run it by your surgeon or GI doc. Four months seems like a mighty long time, but it takes a full year for the complete healing of the wrap. It's a tricky thing for some people (me included)...if you have a reactive stomach, then you'll have a reactive wrap. Even now, 2 years post op, if I overdo it with alcohol, coffee, and other irritants, I can have a few days of stomach/wrap complaints. I always figure the things I ate were worth a little pain!

Good luck...hope you feel better soon!
Denise

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   Posted 6/20/2011 5:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Badger -
I'll go along with the others and just add a few tidbits.

You could be eating a bit too much. Your stomach is considerable smaller now than it was. Keep meals much smaller than you used to. It's a great reason to eat healthy.

Bread, wheat, make gas. This often causes stabbing pain in the large intestine. A loop of the large intestine comes up right under the stomach and it's really easy to mistake pain there for stomach pain, especially since the stomach has been moved during surgery. Pushing on it will hurt worse.

Booze, especially wine or fresh beer with live yeasty beasties, can do the same thing. Enjoy just a taste or you can get those critters fermenting anything that's down there.
Alcie
 
 

TheBadger
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   Posted 6/20/2011 9:52 PM (GMT -6)   
That's really informative advice. Thanks guys. I'm not sure if I had a 270 or 360 degree wrap. It's quite tricky here in the UK to go back and see your surgeon but I do have a scheduled follow up anyway in early July. For now though I'll do as you say and make an appointment to see my general practioner. I may be able to see someone today. My hunch too is that ifs some kind of irritation brought on by poor diet and alcohol so I may need to lay off a bit for now - not good news as I'm off to a music festival this week :( I'll see what the doc says though.

Gritty
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   Posted 6/21/2011 1:13 AM (GMT -6)   
I hear you Badger, my 1st follow up isn't till next month but you can still phone the surgeons office. Out of interest where did you have it done? If it's Manchester there's a good chance we had the same guy.

TheBadger
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   Posted 6/21/2011 2:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Just to update, I saw my GP who wasn't really helpful at all. Didn't really seem to know what it was and said to eat bland foods for a while whilst giving me a prescription for Omeprazole which I'd hoped I'd seen the back of! I guess I'll try and be careful what I eat for the next few days and see what happens.

TheBadger
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   Posted 6/21/2011 2:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I had it done at Cambridge but the follow up wasn't even with the surgeon but a nurse.

dencha
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   Posted 6/21/2011 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi TheBadger,
If your problem is caused by stomach inflammation, it'll take some time to heal. I've had gastritis that lasted a couple months before it began to heal. I was actually hospitalized with it (it was affecting my lungs--before my Nissen) and my GI group did NOTHING to help me, but change my PPI. There is no quick fix. It just takes healing time.

Now, I don't know if that's what your issue is, but if so, it will take time to get better. Whatever is causing your problem, I hope it gets better soon!
Denise

TheBadger
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   Posted 6/27/2011 6:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks very much. I've gone back on omeprazole now to see if that helps which is a little demoralising given that's what I had the op for to stop taking it! Hopefully if it's what you say it will be only temporary!

Alcie
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   Posted 6/27/2011 6:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Even if your wrap is OK you can get some irritation and nausea, and a short course of a PPI can correct it. I sometimes go on them for 3-6 days for just nausea.

I sure wouldn't put up with only seeing a nurse for a visit. Doesn't your surgeon at least have residents who do some of the visits? I don't mind seeing them because at least they are seriously educated and trained and esperienced.
Alcie
 
 

TheBadger
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   Posted 6/28/2011 8:47 AM (GMT -6)   
The surgeons are really busy, as are the registrars. I saw a nurse who was relaying back what I was saying to the surgeon and coming back with his answer. It was a ridiculous situation. Next time I go as I've had to put up with symptoms I was not warned about for quite a while now I'm going to be very firm!

dencha
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   Posted 6/29/2011 12:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi TheBadger,

Perhaps if you put everything in writing, it would be easier to get your communication across. I'm fortunate in that I've got one of the few family doctors (PCP) who uses email to communicate with his patients. He says that his doctor friends fear that email will eat up all their time, but my doc feels it's actually saving him time, since communication through a middle-man is much more difficult.

If you typed/wrote whatever you wish to communicate, perhaps your doctors would be better at both receiving and responding to your questions and concerns.

Just a thought! Good luck with it all.
Denise

TheBadger
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   Posted 6/30/2011 4:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Denise,

Thanks for your advice. I'll start off by writing a. Few things down for the appointment so I don't forget anything and if I don't get everything answered to my satisfaction I'll make an appointment to see the actual surgeon this time. I think it's next week so not long now.
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