sea weed might help seal the LES, testing, im not sure

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mock turtle
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   Posted 7/30/2011 10:52 PM (GMT -6)   
ok so a lot of the old timers, and those who have been searching endlessly for cures around the net know that the alginate in UK and canadiian preparations of gaviscon are stronger than that found in the usa

evidently, alginate forms a seal or a "raft" at the top of the stomach, helping the LES to keep things sealed down there.

many months ago i tried to make this stuff up in my kitchen, but without much success

i had read that alginate comes from sea weed

but after giving up

ive just taken to eating wakame (seaweed) at the end of each meal

an low and behold, sometimes, often,not always, its seems to kind of put a lid on my tendency to reflux

i dont know for certain if this is true

the more i struggle with my illnesses ... the more i realize how complicated things are and how difficult it is to prove that "this" does "that"... and i struggle to figure out cause and effect

so hay...im not promising anything, and im not selling anything

but the sheets of sea weed , that the japanese use to roll up sushi...ive been eating one 8 by 11 inch sheet of the stuff after dinner each night and noticed that i seem to reflux less at night.

so since everybody agrees that sea weed is good for you ..all those nutrients and stuff...and its cheap

i just thought id share with the board what it is im trying lately as i struggle with LPR

Post Edited (mock turtle) : 7/30/2011 10:56:15 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 7/31/2011 4:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Someone on another site felt better after eating fresh spinach.  So maybe leafy greens can be just as helpful.  I frequently eat swiss chard from my garden.  But I can't say I am better overall since it came into season.

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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 7/31/2011 3:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I use Gaviscon for breakthrough symptoms but try not to have it too often cos of the aluminium. I'll look into seaweed after my hols!

MMM
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mock turtle
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   Posted 7/31/2011 7:24 PM (GMT -6)   
i wish we in the US had a gaviscon formulation with as much alginate as you do in the UK

im told that although the products have the same name, the companies that manufacture are different as are the ingredients

best wishes for a grand holiday
mt

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   Posted 8/1/2011 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi mock turtle,


>the more i struggle with my illnesses ... the more i realize how complicated things are and >how difficult it is to prove that "this" does "that"... and i struggle to figure out cause and effect


I find this to be the case too!

What i try to do is limit all the variables (eating the same stuff at the same times), then add your test supplement in like your seaweed. Monitor any progress for 2weeks to a month for affect.


Restaurants for me are the wild-card factor. I ate at a new one last night cause my family was visiting, now i am having some minor symptoms.

Now i am worrying all morning of what i could have possible ate to cause this.



I try to minimize eating out... cause your really cant control what they put in prepared foods.

-Jesse

mock turtle
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   Posted 8/1/2011 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Jesse
restaurants, are so problematic...so many unknown ingredients

and then..

and then add family BBQs, picnics, get-togethers,

relatives and friends trying to convince me all my problems are "in my head"

and then yes "cause and effect"...reflux is the result of the simultaneous confluence of 3 or 4 or more events

choice of food

les opening when it shoudnt (tLESr)

stomach distension

position of hiatal hernia if any

afferent signals in the vegus nerve from brain to GI tract as a result of stress etc

and who knows what else

i struggle

mock turtle
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   Posted 8/1/2011 10:14 AM (GMT -6)   
i just want a rubber inflatable plug, tied to a string, i can swallow after every meal, inflate and plug the LES for 2 or 3 hours, deflate, withdraw and start over ;) ;) ;)

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   Posted 8/1/2011 10:51 AM (GMT -6)   
I like that mock turtle! I have always wondered why they havent just made a a clamp type object that goes around your esophagus that has has a nob that attaches to your chest that you can tighten whne you arent eating. Seems like it would be a simple design and would cure acid reflux?

elsiem
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   Posted 8/1/2011 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
You guys might be on to something here. If they can put pace makers in to regulate the heart why can't they do the same with the LES.

Lets get inventing............

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 8/17/2011 5:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Mock T, how are you doing with the seaweed?

The bits of research I've seen point at it being a good thing for eradicating Helicobacter. If it seemed to help, perhaps it would be worth getting retested for Helicobacter? ?

Have you looked into spirulina?

Thanks for your Bon Voyage; certainly had a good holiday. My GERD was so good that I was able to drink a little red wine - big treat!! However, return flight got cancelled, leaving me trapped at the airport with no wheat free food and a stomach that was expecting dinner. Eventually got packed off to a hotel for the night, which the kids found highly entertaining, and I did get a proper meal there. However, the messed up meal times and a night of poor sleep has set my reflux off again. My stomach expects food every time I wake up so after a bad night's sleep I always feel like my stomach has been digesting itself! And it was somewhat stressful so I guess that didn't help either. Am hoping to get back to how I was feeling before all that!

I think (fingers crossed) that I have resolved most of my side effect issues and that my improvement was due to having had an uninterrupted 4 week run of Lansoprazole . . . I think .......
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