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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 9/10/2011 6:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Just spotted this new paper on LPR:

http://www.voiceinstituteofnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Low-Acid-Diet.pdf

It discusses the benefits of a low acid (I.e. A diet with a low content of acidic food) on LPR.

MMM
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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 9/10/2011 6:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Actually it's an interesting read generally on the subject of GERD as well as LPR. The author is pointing out that the "acidification" of food and drink (to keep it germ free) coincides with the surge in the development of acid reflux smhair


MMM
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aeshleyrose
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   Posted 9/10/2011 7:31 AM (GMT -6)   
GREAT article!

stkitt
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   Posted 9/10/2011 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
 
Good Morning ! I bumped up your journal watch thread as continuing all these links in the same thread was the original idea of posting all info in one thread.  That way members can find all the links to random articles in one place.
 
I reposted your info in the journal watch thread.
 
Thanks,
 
Kitt

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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 9/10/2011 9:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Kitt - I actually forgot my own plan :-/
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stkitt
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   Posted 9/10/2011 6:39 PM (GMT -6)   
MMM,  I forget where I put my car in the parking lot of shopping malls.......... devil ..........your in good company.
 
Kitt

sunbeam48
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   Posted 9/11/2011 5:43 AM (GMT -6)   
MMM, Thanks so much for starting a new thread on this, or I might not have seen it.  I also agree that it is good to keep research in one place, but a new title will be noticed by way more people.  This information holds great hope for me and others like me.  The PPI's do nothing for me besides making my hair fall out.

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 9/11/2011 8:15 AM (GMT -6)   
You're welcome Sunbeam. I plan to change the title each time I post a new bit of research, so that it will catch the eye of those it applies to.

It's a great article isn't it? I don't have LPR but I still found it very interesting on the general subject of reflux. I was thinking if you try to have organic food where possible and use fresh basic ingredients (no tins or packets) then that might reduce a lot of the dietary acid they refer to. Then it comes down to following their advice re fruit etc. And no fizzy drinks of course . . . . though I'm pretty sure most folk on this forum gave up fizzy drinks long ago!

Let us know how you get on if you decide to implement any of the dietary changes.

MMM x
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Lifelong stuff: Food allergies, eczema, asthma

sunbeam48
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   Posted 9/11/2011 10:53 AM (GMT -6)   
I already eat much of what's recommended, but I plan to follow this diet exactly as soon as the current food is out of the fridge. The restrictions on alkaline fruits in this diet makes no sense to me, but I will do it anyway.

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 9/11/2011 2:04 PM (GMT -6)   
When you say "alkaline fruits" are you thinking of the naturopathic acid/alkaline theory? The low acid diet referred to in the scientific paper on LPR is different to the "acid-alkaline balancing" naturopathic diet concept. The above paper talks about the pH of food - that is the pH of it as it hits your stomach. They say only bananas and melon have a suitable pH. Whereas in the acid-alkaline balancing concept (which I think involves a fair amount of pseudo-science relating to "acid ash residues" etc) they say fruit is alkalising because although it is acid when it hits the stomach the final 'end product' is alkaline.

If you look at this link
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/food-ph-d_403.html

- you can see the actual pH value of fruits and vegetables. I have studied naturopathic nutrition in quite a lot of detail (but am no longer a practising therapist) and I really never could accept the whole 'acid residue' theories. I know from painful experience that it's the pH of the food as it lands in my stomach that affects my gastritis........

Sorry for the blurb - just thought I'd make the distinction between the two concepts in case you'd already come across the naturopathic version of acid/alkaline (not that I'm against naturopathy - quite the reverse!).

Best of luck

MMM x
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sunbeam48
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   Posted 9/11/2011 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
MMM, Yes, you are exactly right. I finally found the site you mentioned this afternoon, but the internet is dominated by "acidifying and alkalinizing" food lists, not the same at all as the actual ph of foods. So I had the mistaken impression that many fruits were alkaline, and that's not true. I'm a gardener, and can do soil ph tests, so that is an easily-understood concept for me. But "the truth is elusive" as they say....

stkitt
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   Posted 9/13/2011 8:02 AM (GMT -6)   
MMM,
 
If you find a new article specific to a topic on GERD or Heartburn I think it would be ok to start a new thread.  Trying to maintain all articles in one thread will make it hard for members to find the article they were looking for.
 
This is for all members. Thank you for helping me work through this issue.  I want the forum to work the best for all of the members so have at it. :-)
Kindly,
 
Kitt
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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 9/13/2011 9:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes it's tricky isn't it - I was aiming at keeping things tidy but it's harder to flag things up that way. We could keep the same journal icon, which would make it easier to spot threads discussing articles, but threads often get hijacked and redirected over time, so I guess there's no perfect solution.

I like your "only as" motto !

MMM x
New stuff: GERD. Interstitial Cystitis
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies, eczema, asthma

stkitt
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   Posted 9/13/2011 10:37 AM (GMT -6)   
MMM,
 
Glad to hear you like my new motto..............I am liking it to.  It reminds how much I can do with lots of determination and hard work on my own.  :-) :-)
 
I know I spend to much time trying to keep the site easy to follow but sometimes I just overthink things so post away.  This forum belongs to the members.  All of us and each person is important in what they have to share.
 
Loving hugs,
Kitt
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