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starryblu
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   Posted 9/14/2011 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
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aciphexo
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   Posted 9/14/2011 10:41 AM (GMT -6)   
I've heard of stomach pain symptoms with GERD but haven't been able to figure out why stomach pains occur with GERD. I thought GERD basically is because of the acid backflowing into the esophagus - so why would the stomach start to ache/hurt?

daddypig
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   Posted 9/14/2011 11:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, sorry you have sufferered, and dont worry bout being worried, its natural. I was, which led me to this forum and some really helpful folk. I suggest you read Dencha'e journal, in the resources section, and listen to what people say about relaxing into it. That might make sense after the op, it did for me. For now get some soup in the cupboard!

I moved on to tinned spaghetti pretty quick, so it should be things that you can chew down well by tim you go away, remember you might not feel like eating much. My last meal was a large dominos pizza I am four weeks after op and a ways from wanting - never mind managing - one yet. I have had their chicken bites though, they went down fine after three weeks.

My advice is get some mints, dont go home without painkillers and anti sickness medication and when you feel gassy have a walk around. The food takes care of itself. Hang on to why you need this surgery and best of luck!!!

Kevin

MOUSY90210
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   Posted 9/14/2011 2:21 PM (GMT -6)   
This is my story ...

I had the Nissen in 2000 - it was scheduled for the laprascopic but during the op, the surgeon discovered that my liver was too big for my body (not enlarged) and was also attached to the diaprahm - so I ended up with laprascopic scars and the open Nissen - if he woke me up asked if he could slice me open I would have not had it done, as I asked him prior to the op to make the smallest cuts possible - so this is a psycological problem for me - I hate the scar. My op was 2.5 hours I had a nose tube for a couple of days, lost an incredible amount of weight (normal weight 45kg - after the op 39kg) and had double pneumonia. I was very good with the post op diet, did everything the doc said I should do, but during my recovery period I experienced problem with water, it made me sick, the doc's answer was - don't drink it.....

Well it is now 11 years later, I've had many scopes testing the wrap, all dr's say it is perfect, but I'm not and have an appointment with a Prof in November - been waiting since March for this appointment as this doctor is so busy - he is a specialist in Pretoria and apparently trains all SA doctors on this procedure. I have had the Heli Bactor Pylori virus - tested postive 2x although after this years scope I tested negative - thank you for that.

I can vomit, I suffer with a very uncomfortable feeling on my chest bone, have such bad heart burn that the food / drink actually comes back into my mouth - the same happened prior to the op. I'm always nauseous and hate the sick feeling I'm getting, actually don't want to eat as I don't want to feel nauseous. Even Ice Tea does its mouth wash without my approval - lol.

Anycase, I am ready to have this op redone - I will actually ask the prof to do it again for me as there was a time that all felt ok, I can also only imagine because of my case that maybe the wrap has come loose but because of my liver being in the way, alllooks like it's ok. The doc that did the op said that my hernia was quite big although the test showed it was small. So maybe with my liver having re-attached itself to the diaprahm wich the doc said it will do again, there is nothing that can stop that, I can only think that it is keeping everything nicely "tugged in " which is probably not the case.

I certainly don't want to drink anti-acids for the rest of my life.

If you have had the re-do op, please let me know what your opinion is.

Thank you

daddypig
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   Posted 9/14/2011 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   
You are very welcome. People here were good to me. And still are. You'll get better enjoyment out of food, and life. If they've done the tests then it's right for you. Dont worry about being brave, all you can do here is vent and ask. People will understand, even if you dont get all the answers you might like. The recovery seems short term pain for long term gain. Many here will tell you the complete recovery takes a year. I can see that it will continue to improve but for me, whAtever the diet, I can sleep flat and drink coffee and lie and play with my 2 year old daughter. I could do all this within days, and after two weeks I stopped my three pills altogether. Fingers crossed it lasts! Keep your chin up as us Brits say, and yes roll on pizza! (I should be clear that I meant my last meal before the operation was that yummy pizza...the memory keeps me going!)

Post Edited (daddypig) : 9/14/2011 4:33:46 PM (GMT-6)


Alcie
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   Posted 9/14/2011 4:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Starryblu -
I think I'd reconsider going back to work so soon, also the vacation, since you have a large hernia repair. 2 weeks is barely enough time for an easy fix, let alone one where thay'll be pulling your stomach back down and repairing the diaphragm. You'll still be on liquid diet after 2 weeks, maybe with added milk (full liquid) or soft diet if you are healing well. 2 weeks is about time for the first checkup, when they might let you eat more, but not everything.

Mousy - These operations aren't guaranteed, and they don't last forever. So sorry you had a bad experience with your first one. I need a re-do also, am hoping they can do it lap.

I hope you will start your own thread and keep us up to date with your progress. They may be able to do the re-do laproscopically, or if not, maybe you can ask them to trim out the old scar and make it look better.
Alcie
 
 

daddypig
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   Posted 9/14/2011 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Mousey, sorry I cant help either but fingers crossed someone else will be able to relate. An inspiring story is Bills, have a look at his thread, dealing with his THIRD redo. A real inspiration.

couchtater
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   Posted 9/14/2011 4:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Starryblu,
If you're job is more than sitting in the forklift I'd hold off for at least four weeks going back to work. If it's just sitting then you can handle half days at two weeks, but it still might be pushing it.
You know there is a lifting restriction of five pounds until the six weeks mark.
You might could handle laying on the beach providing someone else does all the carry of everything for you. You'll be weak from the liquid diet and will wear out quickly. Also your glue or tape will just begin to start peeling off your cuts. You will want to keep them clean until fully healed.

PS. It's totally normal to be scared. In my mind I was backing out of having the surgery all the time. But I finally told myself, "you can't keep going on like this. You need this to feel better again." I was surprisingly relaxed the day of the surgery as I walked into the hospital.
Joy

Tduga1
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   Posted 9/14/2011 7:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I was told no lifting over 15 pounds for six weeks. I have a threenyear old and a one year old so that was kind of hard.

I has my surgery on July 1st and am not ashamed to admit I was pretty nervous. The people on this site were great and did a great job explaining what the recovery was like. For me, having the surgery was a blessing. I am back to eating whatever I want and I am not taking any PPIs.

To be honest with you the first couple of days were very tough but they pass fast and after about a week I felt so much better. I would say it took about six weeks to feel normal again but even now I can not eat as much. I went from 180 to 160 but am now back up to 165 and feeling good.

Good luck.

opnwhl4
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   Posted 9/14/2011 8:40 PM (GMT -6)   
starryblu
welcome to the forum. I just had my 3rd nissen on 8/24 and I was quite anxious my self about it. Sounds funny to me after having 2 prior nissens, a knee surgery, a lung surgery, and a surgery to repair a torn esophagus all since 6/06. Mine was done open this time due to all the scarring from my previous surgeries and the torn esophagus repair March 1st. So it is definitely natural to feel anxious and scared going into this surgery. My surgeon this time was the one who did my lung surgery, so I was very comfortable with my surgeon. I have seen him about every 2 months since 2/08 due to nerve damage I unfortunately got i unfortunately got from the scope during surgery. Not much room in between the ribs.
My 2nd nissen actually was perfect, but in order to fix my esophagus my Nissen was destroyed. I am at 3 weeks today and have eaten fish, chicken, frog legs, and anything I can chew to about a liquid goes done fine.
I also think 2 weeks is a bit early returning to work. You will probably still be dealing with tiredness still then. I know I do things that seem to be easy and find I get tired out quickly. As for the vacation, shouldn't be a problem there. Just relax and it may help with your recovery.

Take care,
Bill
opnwhl4
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stkitt
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   Posted 9/15/2011 8:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Starryblu,
 
Hello and welcome to HealingWell - I am Kitt and I am thrilled that you found us.  I look forward to getting to know you better. 
 
I think you have made a very wise decision in choosing surgery and yes you are anxious but that is OK, you are normal.  I have GAD so I understand how it makes it harder for some of us as we overthink to often but try to stay in the moment and take this surgery one step at a time.  I believe you will make it through and know we are all here to support you.
 
Here is a link you may find helpful from another of our members:
 
Denise's Nissen Fundoplication Surgery:
My Forum Journal


 
 
Just click on the link ......................
 
Keep posting here with us, we are here to help and support!
 
Kindly,
Kitt

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kyheart
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   Posted 9/15/2011 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome Starryblu

Please feel free to come and ask all the questions you like.. we here at the forum are used to replying to and supporting and comforting those who are scared and bothered by what is happening to them and if surgery is in your future.. you are welcome to come here to whine, scream, shout, or cry.. we all understand and will try to support you in any way we can..

I am 62 and had Nissen Fundoplication and Hiatal Hernia surgery on April 1st.. I came to this forum for information and I found friends that knew exactly what I felt and what I was going through.. I am so glad I found them...

Reach for the Sunshine... Rainbows will follow
Sandi

opnwhl4
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   Posted 9/15/2011 9:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Starryblu-
One other thing I forgot to mention. I was very bad about googling everything. Please try to not do this. Hang out here and ask all the questions you want. When you start the google process you are bound to find horror stories, but remember most success stories probably never get on the net because they don't have anything to complain about. I about scared myself out of the surgery because of this. I didn't find this site until after my first nissen.


Take care,
Bill
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couchtater
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   Posted 9/17/2011 9:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Starryblu,
The surgery day is not as bad as I was scared of it being. I have a medical phobia (anything invasive scares me to death).
This was my day:
Sign in at the hospital.
Go to a small prep room and dress in the breezy gown.
Hop onto a small gurney and cover up.
Nurse comes in and asked a million and one questions.
IV is put in my wrist. Scary part for me because it was only my third one in my life.
Orderly comes and takes me to pre-op room.
More questions, two shots in my IV, and an anti-nausea patch placed behind my ear.
Rolled through two large doors into the OR. I catch glimps of a room that reminds me of an OR TV show. :)
They have me slide over onto the table. At the same time they tell me to stretch my arm out on the "wings". While I was doing that the sneaks gave me a shot in the IV to knock me out the same time. ;)
I remember waking up in post-op very groggy, thirsty, and some pain. I'd tell them I was hurting and thirsty. I'd faintly hear someone tell me I'd need to wake up before they give me something before I'd drift off again.
I did feel them move me for an xray, but fell back to sleep again.
I woke up a couple of times as they rolled me to my room. They had to wake me to get me to help get on the bed. Then I was gone again to la-la land.
I woke up again later, asked for pain medicine and water. My parents were in the room with me by then. They got the nurse to get me a cup of ice and a pain shot.
The pain shot woke me up with a start. It was very warm to me. My parents rubbed ice chips on my dry lips and let me suck on the chips one at a time.
I spent the rest of the day in a drugged haze eating ice chips, popsicles, jello, and drinking broth.
I went home the next morning to rest and recooperate.
Joy

MOUSY90210
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   Posted 9/20/2011 1:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Daddypig & Alcie

Thank you for your support, will keep you posted - My appointment is in November, so will start my own thread then, keep looking please - must say, really can't wait for the appointment, I'm already booked for the scope etc, the heartburn is now really getting out of control, have a permanent feeling as if something is stuck in bottom of my throat.
 
Will also read Bill's thread.
 
Yip, hopefully they can fix the scar if they have to 1) redo the op and 2) have to do the open cut. 

Regards

Mousy

Post Edited (MOUSY90210) : 9/20/2011 1:35:32 PM (GMT-6)


MOUSY90210
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   Posted 9/20/2011 1:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Starryblu

Thanks, hope all goes well on Monday, which I trust it will, my hubby had his done two years ago and not a days problem. I think they have perfected the op now and people don't suffer as much as the first ones, also mine was a real horror story that doesn't happen to each and everyone.

Let us know how you are doing and Good Luck !!

Regards

Mousy

MOUSY90210
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   Posted 9/20/2011 1:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Starryblu

Thanks, hope all goes well on Monday, which I trust it will, my hubby had his done two years ago and not a days problem. I think they have perfected the op now and people don't suffer as much as the first ones, also mine was a real horror story that doesn't happen to each and everyone.

Let us know how you are doing and Good Luck !!  wink
Regards

Mousy

Post Edited (MOUSY90210) : 9/20/2011 1:31:14 PM (GMT-6)


kyheart
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   Posted 9/21/2011 6:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Starry

I hope all goes well on Monday and You will come back to us in a couple of days as a member of the WRAPPED CLUB... come share your JOY and your pain.. we are here for you...

Please come to us to ask all of those questions that you think you can't possibly call the surgeon to ask cause they're DUMB... been there done that!!!

Please come to us when you hurt and can't figure out why.. it may be something we know about.. gas, air in your body, wrap irritation,moving to fast with your diet... any one of a bunch of things.. we will be here to try to help you through...

Please come to us when you want to yell, scream and shout.. maybe even praise your surgeon... we know how you feel, we really do..

Reach for the Sunshine... Rainbows will follow...

Sandi

MOUSY90210
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   Posted 10/17/2011 2:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Starryblu
 
How are you doing after your op? Have not heard anything from you.  Hope all is ok and that you are now feeling much better already. yeah   
Regards
 
Mousy
 

stkitt
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   Posted 10/17/2011 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Please do let us know how you are doing Starry ............we are all here to support you.
 
Kindly,
Kitt
~~Kitt~~
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green-eyes
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   Posted 10/19/2011 4:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,
I am new here (first post) but we sound so much alike. Same age and same anxiety. I am bi-polar and am very anxious about this surgery. I guess I shouldn't have gotten on the internet LOL. My biggest fear with this surgery is the whole choking thing. I'm not sure if I can handle that. I can take xanax as needed. Does anyone out there think this would help if I feel like I was choking?

opnwhl4
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   Posted 10/19/2011 10:46 AM (GMT -6)   
green-eyes-
Welcome to Healing Well.

The only thing I can relate to you thinking people choke after this surgery is food getting stuck at the wrap. This can happen if you eat too fast or something that your body is not ready for due to swelling. If it does get stuck you can get it to go past the wrap by drinking something and relaxing. If it won't go past your body will get rid of it similar to the way a cat gets rid of a hairball. Your esophagus just sends it back up and you spit it out.
The best way to avoid this is to take small bites and chew, chew, chew. also avoid soft beads and solid meats for several weeks.
Please feel fee to start a new thread of your own instead of posting on old posts.

Take care,
Bill
opnwhl4
Moderator: GERD/Heartburn
Nissen 6/06 and 5/09
#3 on 8/24/11

Post Edited (opnwhl4) : 10/19/2011 10:51:02 AM (GMT-6)


somedaysarediamonds
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   Posted 10/19/2011 12:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi green-eyes,

When it comes down to something as big as surgery I think we're all a little scared and nervous. Thinking about it is always worse than the actual event I think. When I was a little kid I remember always getting a penicillin shot every time I went to the doctor. I remember lying in bed one time with a bad cold and waiting to go to the doc's office. The time came and we went and I didn't get a shot and I remember being almost disappointed. Strange but true. The worry is sometimes worse than the event.

I had the NF on August 1 and the worrying I've done has been good and bad. It's helped me in some ways because I've looked around and learned and listened to others who have had the surgery including a couple of close friends in the town where I live and from this forum as well.

Worrying has also been not so good but we are who we are and we recover and progress at our own rate and in our own time. You can't heal as I do and vice versa. Most people do very well and I just bet you do too.

about the choking: I really never worried about that aspect of the surgery and I never choked once.

Good luck -

Rita

Post Edited (halloweenbaby) : 10/19/2011 12:45:20 PM (GMT-6)


opnwhl4
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   Posted 10/19/2011 12:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Rita-
Good to hear from you my friend.

Take care,
Bill
opnwhl4
Moderator: GERD/Heartburn
Nissen 6/06 and 5/09
#3 on 8/24/11

somedaysarediamonds
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   Posted 10/19/2011 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Bill. It's very slow for me but it's getting better. I have to stop and think that it still hasn't been 3 mos yet since my surgery. It seems a lifetime and I'm not having an easy time but there is slow but sure progress thanks to some natural methods I'm employing.

I think the biggest thing I've learned in this almost 3 months is that no one heals at the same rate. I'm always thrilled to hear someone has recovered quickly, is eating what they want and are back to work full-time but those are lofty goals to shoot for and certainly didn't apply to me. Remember I quit my job as a newspaper columnist and never should have done so.

If I should ever venture out to give someone else advice I think it would really be not to "ever" compare or frame your own recovery to anyone else no matter how good or bad the other person's road happens to be.

We are individuals with our own separate problems, conditions, lifestyles and circumstances and obligations.
Not one of us is exactly the same or even close to it.

I guess I'm becoming a realist in my old age. LOL

Rita
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