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soliver38
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   Posted 11/15/2011 5:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Denise...today i had a very dangerous issue.last week i tried some rice with yogurt for lunch i had no problem .Today i cooked the yogurt and i start to eat suddenly i felt like somebody struggeling me i couldnt respire nor talk. i called my doctor you know what he says?Thats good it means ur wrap is working good...he put me out of my mind and he says take little oil...wich i did.,and things become better... but now i feel afraid what should have to eat or what i can eat.why last week i could eat the same menu not today??/..i m sure you have the good answer

Post Edited (soliver38) : 11/15/2011 3:52:16 AM (GMT-7)


opnwhl4
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   Posted 11/15/2011 8:11 AM (GMT -6)   
You are at the peak swelling time now and have to go easy with your diet until it goes down. Eat very slowly and chew well. You will eventually be able to tell when something hangs up and wash it down with water or something.


Take care,
Bill
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Nissen 6/06 and 5/09
#3 on 8/24/11

soliver38
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   Posted 11/15/2011 8:53 AM (GMT -6)   
opnwhl4 said...
You are at the peak swelling time now and have to go easy with your diet until it goes down. Eat very slowly and chew well. You will eventually be able to tell when something hangs up and wash it down with water or something.


Take care,
Bill
Thank you Bill..i am a bit released by your reply...and i guess you are right.Even water doesnt go down normally.i heard the water draining slowly making a sound like the last quantity of water and foam going through the tube of the toilet.... even small amount of water make that soundZzzzz.about lunch i told the doc about my issue he advise me to drink oil not water....now i am back to jello creamy potato with milk....again thank you Bill for your answer...by the way how many redo you had ,i understand your last nissen were on 8/24/11?

Post Edited (soliver38) : 11/15/2011 6:58:10 AM (GMT-7)


dencha
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   Posted 11/15/2011 9:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Solivar,
I agree with Bill...you're at peak swelling.  You may want to go back to soft or semi-liquid foods.  You should be able to drink water, my friend.  Just take it easy...don't gulp it down.  Drink in sips. 
 
It's very normal for swallowing to get worse as peak swelling is reached.  It is to be expected.
As Bill said, just take it easy.
Take care,
Denise

soliver38
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   Posted 11/15/2011 10:45 AM (GMT -6)   
dencha said...
Hi Solivar,I agree with Bill...you're at peak swelling. You may want to go back to soft or semi-liquid foods. You should be able to drink water, my friend. Just take it easy...don't gulp it down. Drink in sips.

It's very normal for swallowing to get worse as peak swelling is reached. It is to be expected.
As Bill said, just take it easy.
Take care,
Denise
Denise...Thank you again...i just had supper with vegetables it was ok...but hearing the sips draining in the wrap ..also i had toast with cheese...thanks again...

dencha
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   Posted 11/15/2011 11:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Solivar,
Glad to hear you found something to eat.  Don't worry about the water draining...it's fine.  Just look at it as evidence that your wrap is working!
Have a great day... yeah
Denise

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   Posted 11/15/2011 12:22 PM (GMT -6)   
soliver-

I have had 2 redos, 1 on May 18th '09 and the last redo was on Aug. 24th '11. My first redo was perfect, but was destroyed when they had to repair a tear in my esophagus. all is good again.

Take care,
Bill
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Nissen 6/06 and 5/09
#3 on 8/24/11

soliver38
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   Posted 11/15/2011 2:19 PM (GMT -6)   
opnwhl4 said...
soliver-

I have had 2 redos, 1 on May 18th '09 and the last redo was on Aug. 24th '11. My first redo was perfect, but was destroyed when they had to repair a tear in my esophagus. all is good again.

Take care,
Bill
Bill...when you start feel that you have normal appetite I already lost 3.7 kg in less than 2 weeks...will my appetite return to normal or i will stay under the normal for longtime?!!or never come back like before.. Now evrything ok with you after your last redo?!!!I mean you can eat everything you want and same amount like before?

Post Edited (soliver38) : 11/15/2011 12:23:17 PM (GMT-7)


dencha
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   Posted 11/15/2011 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Solivar,
You're too worried, although I understand why. Not being able to eat much is TOTALLY normal. Please go back to my journal (I gave you the link at one point, or it's in the GERD Resources section of the main page.) EVERYBODY eats less in the beginning and loses weight. Some surgeons expect their patients to stay on liquids ONLY for up to 6 weeks!
Don't jump to conclusions that you'll be like this forever. I'm sure Bill will be by soon to let you know about his eating history. Once you're past the peak swelling of your wrap, your eating will gradually improve and the amount you can eat will increase.
You will be fine. :-)
Denise

opnwhl4
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   Posted 11/16/2011 12:40 AM (GMT -6)   
soliver-

I have been eating fairly normal for about a month or so now. This last redo was completely different for me because I didn't have any complications. I was stuck in the hospital with my first redo for 3 plus weeks due to a leak in my stomach.

Yes all is good now. This has been my easiest recovery from a nissen by far. And it was done open vs. a lap. Strange huh?! Anyway, you most likely won't be able to eat the exact same amount of food at one sitting as you did before because they use part of your stomach for the wrap. I have gotten back to eating a "normal" amount after the nissens, but I used to over eat and this has helped me maintain a healthier body weight. You may need to eat an extra small meal or so after you have healed if you don't need to lose any weight.

Take care,
Bill
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Nissen 6/06 and 5/09
#3 on 8/24/11

t331
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   Posted 11/16/2011 11:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I am three weeks 1 day post nissen. My doctor sent me home with just a few set of instructions: no bread, no sodas, no lifting over 10 pounds, no sex, and eat soft well cooked funds. As a matter of fact, I had bacon and sliced turkey before I left the hosiptal. I was very careful and chewed throughly so I thought I would be golden when I got home. Wrong, I ate a very small piece of lunch meat and it got stuck. I had drunk a sip of water and it felt like it was going to come out my ears. It would not go up or come down. To make it worse, I swallowed air and had a huge air bubble. Finally, my wife tapped me on the back gently and after 5 minutes, I felt a very small burp. Moral of the story is I started over only eating soups, yogurt, well cooked rice, certain well cooked veggies. Even some of the veggies would get caught but now it is getting smoother. My drinking has improved drastically. I have lost 15 pounds but now I am eating a cup or so of something soft every two to three hours. I feel better doing this. I felt miserable eating more than that. I ate a whole bowl of soup one day and thought my stomach would explode. Thanks, Tim

EllenC
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   Posted 11/16/2011 5:13 PM (GMT -6)   
What time frame is "peak swelling"? It's been 3 weeks today since I had my surgery. I have lost 15 lbs and love that. I am still eating soft foods but can eat toast if I drink a lot with it. I am still sore and if I walk too fast I hurt more. But I see improvments each week. I do get gas a lot and really hope this will go away before I have to get out in the real world! hee, hee.

dencha
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   Posted 11/16/2011 5:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ellen,
Welcome to Healing Well!  The symptoms and eating you described sound just right for your stage of recovery.  Generally peak swelling is somewhere around two weeks, but it varies a bit from individual to individual. 
 
I began participating in this forum in early 2009, and had my wrap done the end of February 2009.  The members here really helped me through--preparing me and supporting my recovery.  Unfortunately, surgeons don't tend to spend much time on providing guidance regarding the recovery.  I've seen it here time and time again.  I guess it's because they haven't experienced it for themselves!
 
I was told on Day 6 post-op that I could eat anything that could be chewed to a liquid.  I consider myself one of the lucky ones.  Many here are told to stay on liquids for up to 6 weeks!  Yikes!  My doctor was confident that I could make my own responsible eating decisions, which I did.  If something wasn't chewing to a liquid, I didn't swallow it.
 
This is not my eating plan, but I did find this resource recently, and think it offers some pretty good guidelines: http://slhhn.org/docs/pdf/keystonesurgical-fundoplication%20diet.pdf You'll have to copy and paste it into your browser, because try as I might, I couldn't get it to become a live link.
 
Although you're not supposed to eat bread, you're right about toast.  Once bread is toasted it can be chewed to a liquid easily! 
 
If you ever get something stuck, try not to panic.  If you relax, and continue drinking and relaxing, you'll be able to get it down.  Sometimes warm tea is the best thing when your throat is spasming, which it will if you've gotten something stuck.  If for some reason you can't get it down, then you can cough it up the way a cat coughs up a hairball. turn You probably won't need to, though.
 
I'd like to be the first to welcome you to our yeah yeah yeah Wrapped Club! yeah yeah yeah There are quite a few of us who've had the Nissen surgery.  If you'd like to start a new thread on the main page, it'll be easier for you to ask questions and get answers.  Here's the main page link:GERD - Heartburn 
 
Glad you've joined us!
Take care,
Denise

EllenC
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   Posted 11/16/2011 11:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Denise!
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