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soliver38
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   Posted 11/16/2011 7:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Seems like Denise and Bill are right..things improve day after day...but i am still feeling irritated throat specially in the morning...and after every meal ...not a pyrosis ,just irritated throat with sometimes mid pain...Bill you said your last op was laparotomy its ok since youre feeling great...thank you for replying always to my issues...Ciao

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   Posted 11/16/2011 7:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Solivar,
It's normal to have an irritated esophagus at this point.  It's easy to worry, I know.  We all worried at your stage of recovery.  You're at the very, very early stage of recovery.  With time your esophagus will feel better.  You have to remember that your upper GI tract has been completely revised...things were pulled and wrapped and twisted, then stitched.  While your outsides heal quickly, much more was done to your insides.  You've had a major surgery.  It takes time to feel better, but you will.
I'm glad to hear that some things are getting better!
Hang in there...it will happen!
Denise

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   Posted 11/16/2011 8:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Solivar,
 
I am glad to read your updates and look how far you have come ? You have 2 of the best people sharing their experience with you as I can see you have already discovered.
 
Just stopping in to wish you well and keep on healing.
 
Kindly,
 
Kitt
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soliver38
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   Posted 11/16/2011 10:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I think i have issue with gastric clearance ...i had my lunch at 2pm very light with jello 2.30pm.3 hours later i tried to have toast with cheese i couldnt i felt bloated and dumped ....i had same issue yesterday.. when i tried to have dinner.Do i have to go doc to check the gastric motility or wait another week??

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   Posted 11/16/2011 10:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Soliver-

I still have this issue from time to time since my redo. Remember things were rearranged and still are adjusting to their new positions. I wouldn't worry just yet unless your had this problem before surgery. It does take several months for the insides to heal and adjust.

Take care,
Bill devil
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soliver38
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   Posted 11/17/2011 11:18 AM (GMT -6)   
opnwhl4 said...
Soliver-

I still have this issue from time to time since my redo. Remember things were rearranged and still are adjusting to their new positions. I wouldn't worry just yet unless your had this problem before surgery. It does take several months for the insides to heal and adjust.

Take care,
Bill devil
Bill....it means i have to wait more weeks to start eat like normal...now i am on my 18 day post op.i should wait more 4 weeks ...beside if i drink more than one sip of water i feel water come back into my throat....its early for me yet?right.anyway your so kind to answer and i feel comfortable with ur replies....

soliver38
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   Posted 11/17/2011 11:20 AM (GMT -6)   
stkitt said...
Solivar,


I am glad to read your updates and look how far you have come ? You have 2 of the best people sharing their experience with you as I can see you have already discovered.



Just stopping in to wish you well and keep on healing.



Kindly,
KIT.....thank you for your reply...in fact yes Bill and Denise are very kind...they help me too much..I wish i can be useful for them one day.....


Kitt

t331
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   Posted 11/17/2011 12:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Solliver 38,

I am on day 23 since my surgery. I still have problems eating more than a cup or two of anything at a sitting. I am still only eating really softs right now. If I eat more than that I feel really bloated, a little pain under my left rib cage, and I am not hungry for hours. I try to limit myself to only a cup /cup and a 1/2 plus 1/2 cup drink per meal. The soft food is going down pretty smooth and by the time an hour goes by my stomach is roaring(really). I eat less but more frequently. I asked my doc about this and he told me that he expected me to lose 15 pounds the first two months and that my stomach would catch up with my appetite in a month or two.  As far as drinking, I still have some come back into my throat if I take too big of sip.
 
Just curious if you are still on reflux meds.  They took me off mine cold turkey.  I was a little worried.  Thanks, Tm

Post Edited (t331) : 11/17/2011 11:53:24 AM (GMT-7)


soliver38
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   Posted 11/17/2011 12:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Do you think that eosophagien draining will improve with time>maybe if the wrap stop swelling....i feel very slow eosophagien clearance....maybe this is the main reason my throat still irritated 2 weeks post surgery....

Post Edited (soliver38) : 11/17/2011 11:52:44 AM (GMT-7)


t331
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   Posted 11/17/2011 12:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, my swallowing/drinking has been improving everyday.  For lack of better wording, I feel like it is loosing up a little everyday.  First day, it took 20 minutes to drink a cup of juice.  I can drink it  in less than 5 minutes now. 
 
 The back of my throat hurt for about about a week post surgery.  They told me that it was from a tube used for drainage during the surgery.  My throat hurts a little still and feels tight.  I don't know if it is because I am swallowing all the time due to the small bites/sips or that I just have too much time to focus on it(I am off work for four weeks).  Thanks, Tim

Post Edited (t331) : 11/17/2011 12:00:24 PM (GMT-7)


soliver38
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   Posted 11/17/2011 1:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes Tim i am still under meds i didnt stop it.thank you for your answers.me also i can have a cup of water very slowly...sip after sip...i also still feel bloated...i hope things wil be better.my doc told me to stop meds but me i didnt....

opnwhl4
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   Posted 11/17/2011 3:52 PM (GMT -6)   
soliver-

Things should start to improve a bit each day from here. It will be slow at first, but you will get there. The hardest thing is to be patient. How soon you are able to eat normally really depends on how tight the wrap is, how soon the swelling goes down, and how soon your body heals. With all 3 of mine I would say at about the 8 week mark I could eat pretty much normally, but somewhat less quantity at one sitting.
My recovery with this last redo has been weird for me because I haven't really had any set backs as I did with the first 2 and since hey opened me up I thought for sure the pain would be worse than the 2 lap ones I had. But it's just the opposite. This one has been less painful. Than again it might be because I had just had one heck of a painful surgery5 months or so before it, where they went through my left ribs and I had 2 chest tubes to repair the hole in my esophagus. Guess pain can be subjective, LOL.

Take care,
Bill
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soliver38
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   Posted 11/18/2011 10:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Bill Thank you....you are completely right..i have to be patient....you know eating to me is now a hard work to do not a pleasure...as you just said i need more 5 weeks to return to normal...the surgeon told me to come for a check up within 45 days post op for gastroscopy and barium test ... i told him i also need a bravo test to be sure that no acid reflux....sometimes i regret that surgery,,i was living quite normal with meds i only had irritated throat....not heartburn...i hope i didnt make the bad choice by doing this surgery wich all GI said to not do it....now things are done...i hope i can return to normal with time.....thank you again ..

soliver38
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   Posted 11/18/2011 1:43 PM (GMT -6)   
19 days post op when swelling wrap start to heal??even sip of water takes time to drain very slowly into the wrap...the first week post op i felt better than now....even i eat more than before but with no appetite....yesterday i felt like short pain in my thorax maybe the stitches heals. i hope so...or maybe the wrap slipped??

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   Posted 11/18/2011 4:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Solivar,
Relax, my friend.  You've had major surgery.  Healing takes time.  Of course swallowing is easier immediately after surgery. The swelling hasn't kicked in.  Peak swelling is around 14 days, but it's not exact.  Also, the swelling doesn't go down on Day 15.  It's a gradual process.
You won't need any testing once you've given yourself time to heal.
Take it slow.
Surrender to the process...just follow your recovery where it takes you.  Don't fight it, or struggle, or wonder what if...just relax and do what you have to do to get through these early weeks.  If you struggle against what is, you'll have a much harder recovery.
Things will get better!
Denise

soliver38
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   Posted 11/19/2011 5:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Denise.......thank you very much i was just to gave up...the surgeon before the Nissen make it to me easier and wont show me any serious side effect..only he said i will change your life..and i believed ....i did not know that i will face all this situation...sometimes small nausea other time no appetite...i was not prepared to face that..all i have to do is wait and pray...again thank you Denise

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   Posted 11/19/2011 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
soliver-

You are absolutely correct that surgeons don't tell people what to really expect. I don't think they can really understand unless they have been through it themselves.
I short story about this: My PCP a couple years ago asked me about what I went through after my nissen. He had been having reflux for years and was interested in surgery, but he to had heard all the horror stories. This was after my first redo. We spent about 30 minutes talking about my issues before surgery, my recovery, and how things were after recovery. He told me he had talked with a surgeon friend of his that does this surgery and even he wasn't told about what the recovery was really like. Said his friend didn't tell him even 1/4 of what it really is like during recovery. After or talk he decided he was going to get it done if the meds continued to not help. Unfortunately he left the area and I don't know if he had it done or not.

Anyhow, Everything you are experiencing is normal as far as I have seen from my own recoveries. For some reason my first one was the hardest. I really am not sure if it's because I didn't know what to expect or what.

Take care,
Bill devil
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dencha
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   Posted 11/19/2011 1:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Solivar,
Patience.  Don't worry that this will be forever.  It's just a part of the healing process.  Your appetite will return and you'll gain your weight back.  Hang in there.  Just take it a day at a time.  It's a normal process.
Take care,
Denise

soliver38
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   Posted 11/19/2011 1:32 PM (GMT -6)   
dencha said...
Hi Solivar,Patience. Don't worry that this will be forever. It's just a part of the healing process. Your appetite will return and you'll gain your weight back. Hang in there. Just take it a day at a time. It's a normal process.
Take care,
Denise
Denise..each time i feel depressed with my pain and thoughts i look and see your replies i remember again that i am not alone..and maybe things will change as you said....i too much appreciate your answers and also the other replies....you are good friends in very difficult period of my life..i have had many surgeries ...but this one is different ,and as you said major surgery ,the surgeon made it very easy before doing it to me...he did not tell me the truth i asked him many questions and his answers were evasive...while the GI advised me and warned me about this surgery..thank you again...for your support while i thought i am alone wink

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   Posted 11/19/2011 3:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Solivar,
My GI docs didn't really seem to want me to have the surgery, either.  They don't want us coming back to them with complaints!  I'm so glad that I had the surgery, though. It did exactly what I wanted...improved the health of my very sick lungs.
 
As Bill said, the surgeons just don't really know what we experience.  They do the surgery, but don't usually see their patients past maybe one post-op appointment.  There have been others here who were not given enough information about what to expect post-op.  I would say that the majority get the surgery without knowing what they will experience when recovering.
 
That's why this forum is so helpful to us!
And that's why I stuck around after I'd fully healed from my surgery.  I wanted to help others the way I was helped when I needed it!
 
Hang in there!  It will get better!
Denise
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