Can you control/cure reflux without ppi's???

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lozzy42
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   Posted 11/25/2011 7:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I was wondering if any of you guys have cured or controlled your reflux without ppi's? These and H2 blockers don't work for me, and I'm kinds stuck with pain everyday and it's starting to depress and drain me as a person. My diet consists of chicken, veg, and fish. I can't eat anything else without getting acid in my mouth and a burning chest. I'm really desperate for some help and would appreciate any advice.


Please help if you can smilewinkgrin

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Loz
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opnwhl4
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   Posted 11/25/2011 8:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Loz-

There are some natural things to try. I don't know much about them, but some people say they have luck with it. I am sure someone who has more info will be by soon.
Might try goggling it.
Take care,
Bill
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aciphexo
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   Posted 11/25/2011 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello Loz - if you are able to avoid reflux by sticking to some of these foods and a diet, it indeed is good news. Several of us can not simply control or avoid with diet alone.

Now, as far as natural things go - there are several to try:
- Digestive Enzymes
- DGL
- Aloe Vera Juice
- Fennel seeds
- Chamomile, Ginger teas
- Slippery Elm
- Turmeric+Honey
- Probiotics
- Raising the head of the bed
- Breathing Exercises (Pranayam Yoga, Sudarshan Kriya Yoga) / Meditation
- Then there are quite a few other things one can try: L-Glutamine, L-Theanine, Pepsin GI, Zinc etc.

It all depends on what the root cause is - if the root cause is the transient relaxations of the LES - then breathing exercises do help some. If the root cause is hernia, then raising the bed helps some. If the root cause is imbalance of gut-bacteria, then the probiotics will surely help. If the root cause is slow digestion etc, then the digestive enzymes would help - and so on. There is also a possibility that you may have low-acid, then you can try Betaine HCL to supplement the acid.

Have you got any tests done yet? Endoscopy, Manometry, pH measurement etc.?

I can not tolerate PPIs/H2s .. so I've tried several of the above already. My symptoms have reduced in severity and frequency but have not gone away. The root cause in my case is TLESrs .. so I need to somehow get my nervous system to return to normal functioning .. I am trying but haven't hit upon a regimen or a protocol that can keep my symptoms under full control yet. I do think though that one can get a "normalcy" in their life by finding some combination from the above and can manage / reduce the symptoms.

Hope this helps - also search in this forum and you might hit other threads that address this topic.

lozzy42
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   Posted 11/26/2011 6:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi there

I had an endoscopy about 4 months ago, it showed eosophigities although I was never told the reason I have this? I have tried aloe juice, ginger tea, digestive enzymes and now I've just started taking acid free vitamin c. I've heard that apple cider vinegar is good so I may well try that as well. What I need is to be referred to a specialist but my GP is hesitant to do so, he keeps trying me on different ppi's which don't work . I have also put on 7lb since being on ppi's which is a rare side effect but it does occur in 1% of people, my GP just ignores that too. It's such a depressing miserable disease I feel totally isolated.

Loz
x

p.s I have elevated my bed .....what's a Manometry, ph test??



PPI-LESS said...
Hello Loz - if you are able to avoid reflux by sticking to some of these foods and a diet, it indeed is good news. Several of us can not simply control or avoid with diet alone.

Now, as far as natural things go - there are several to try:
- Digestive Enzymes
- DGL
- Aloe Vera Juice
- Fennel seeds
- Chamomile, Ginger teas
- Slippery Elm
- Turmeric+Honey
- Probiotics
- Raising the head of the bed
- Breathing Exercises (Pranayam Yoga, Sudarshan Kriya Yoga) / Meditation
- Then there are quite a few other things one can try: L-Glutamine, L-Theanine, Pepsin GI, Zinc etc.

It all depends on what the root cause is - if the root cause is the transient relaxations of the LES - then breathing exercises do help some. If the root cause is hernia, then raising the bed helps some. If the root cause is imbalance of gut-bacteria, then the probiotics will surely help. If the root cause is slow digestion etc, then the digestive enzymes would help - and so on. There is also a possibility that you may have low-acid, then you can try Betaine HCL to supplement the acid.

Have you got any tests done yet? Endoscopy, Manometry, pH measurement etc.?

I can not tolerate PPIs/H2s .. so I've tried several of the above already. My symptoms have reduced in severity and frequency but have not gone away. The root cause in my case is TLESrs .. so I need to somehow get my nervous system to return to normal functioning .. I am trying but haven't hit upon a regimen or a protocol that can keep my symptoms under full control yet. I do think though that one can get a "normalcy" in their life by finding some combination from the above and can manage / reduce the symptoms.

Hope this helps - also search in this forum and you might hit other threads that address this topic.

palmsup
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   Posted 6/21/2012 8:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello,
I recently found this site and saw your post about all the tests and possible causes of reflux....I have never gone to doctor about my symptoms, annoying cough that comes and goes, and clearing my throat a lot, becuase I never thought they were acid related. I don't have any pain or other major symptoms of acid reflux......I went to one doctor who suggested prilosec, so I did and it actually helped my cough. I hated the idea of being on those drugs, so I went off it and the cough has come back......what test do I need to get to find out what kind of reflux I have so that I can then no how to cure it? Is there something I can do naturally to avoid the expensive tests?

thanks

jmumom
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   Posted 6/21/2012 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Dear Lozzy,
 
I just read your post.  I feel the same way you do...this reflux or whatever is driving me crazy.  I have been dealing with this since February and have been on at least 5 different ppis and h2 blockers.  Nothing seems to work.  I've had xrays, ct scans, gastric empy study, endoscopy and tons of blood tests.  The gastro docs (I've seen 2 already) say GERD and the ENT I saw said LPR.  I guess I have both and it stinks.  I am so careful with what I eat, take my Protonix (my newest med) as directed.  I still have a burning sensation in my chest and a lump of mucus in my throat.  The tests all came back fine and the results of the endoscopy showed a hiatal hernia and gastritis.  Everything is very vague.  I hate being on these meds for so long without really understanding what is going on.  I do love this site with all of the wonderful people to chat with and exchange ideas and stories with.
I hope we all can find something to help us through this misery.  I miss all the foods I love and just want some answers. 
 
Please respond with any thoughts, etc.
 
Barb 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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guddan
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   Posted 6/22/2012 6:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Here are my 2 cents
For next 4 weeks
Keep taking PPI(Protonix) 1st thing in the morning on empty stomach
Drink lot of water in morning and jump from a comfortable height (for Haital Hernia) multiple times everyday
Lose weight as abdomen region may be pushing into chest region. Can also try massage or chiropractor
Do joging (no other exercise) on empty stomach
Diet restrictions and do not eat for 3 hrs before sleep in night.

Coopsta
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   Posted 6/22/2012 3:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Loz,

I'm also searching for a solution other than PPIs, as I was on Nexium for years and still had reflux (just considerably less acidic reflux). I don't have a proven answer for you, but I actually had a chiropractor adjust my stomach - she said she cured her brother's reflux by adjusting his stomach chiropractically. This helps if it's a hiatal hernia that is the cause of your reflux.

At this point I need something else, and I'm trying apple cider vinegar and DGL. PPI-LESS above seemed to have some great suggestions.

Chrissy77
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   Posted 6/22/2012 5:53 PM (GMT -6)   
can i ask what is hiatial hernia??

brianissleepy
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   Posted 1/30/2018 12:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I just came across this website and this post/forum. I've been having very severe reflux symptoms myself. This was back in 2011. Just wondering if you got your reflux under control?

lozzy42 said...
I was wondering if any of you guys have cured or controlled your reflux without ppi's? These and H2 blockers don't work for me, and I'm kinds stuck with pain everyday and it's starting to depress and drain me as a person. My diet consists of chicken, veg, and fish. I can't eat anything else without getting acid in my mouth and a burning chest. I'm really desperate for some help and would appreciate any advice.


Please help if you can smilewinkgrin

Luv

Loz
x

astroman
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   Posted 1/31/2018 9:43 AM (GMT -6)   
For the first question here from way back.........yes, curable without Rx.

D-limonene before bed will cure even the hardest cases of GERD. Several peole including myself have mentioned this in past post because..........its true. Serach for it here and you will see.

Al of conventional medicines gerd meds failed me (8) that they tried.

They said the Nissan band aid surgery was my only hope. I said BS with that idea.

I goggled and cured it about 7 years ago. Its true folks. Natural medicine actually works sometimes and your regular RX pushing Dr wont know this stuff. The Gastro Dr intern / residency Dr knew about it though!
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