When i can start having bread with foods?

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soliver38
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   Posted 11/28/2011 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Nearly 29 days post op ..but i dont dare having bread not toasted with meals...when i can eat bread with foods?

IamDonna
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   Posted 11/28/2011 3:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I'd like to know too.... I'm 12 days post op and would love some toast or bread - not sure when I can start eating some 'proper' food

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   Posted 11/28/2011 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Donna and Solivar,
I can only share my own experiences.  I was able to eat crispy things fairly quickly.  They chew easily to a liquid.  If you toast bread well, it should not be a problem for you.  It's just the doughy, untoasted bread that is a problem for those of us who are newly wrapped.
 
Give a small bit a try and see what happens.  As long as you take a little bite and chew, chew, chew, I don't think you can go wrong.  Also, a warm drink helps mellow out the esophagus and get it moving.  Just an FYI!
 
Solivar, my surgeon said to stay away from untoasted bread for at least eight weeks.  Go with the toasty kind! turn
 
Have a great night!
Denise

Jesper A
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   Posted 11/29/2011 2:21 AM (GMT -6)   
I agree with Denise here, give it a small try and see what happens.

I have had small bites of bread since my day 6 without a problem. For breakfast I usualy get a small portion of oatmeal which gets everything working and afterwards I have no problem with some bread and cheese.

So, try it it just dont over do it, make sure you chew alot and dont eat too fast!

J

dencha
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   Posted 11/29/2011 9:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Jesper,
Great advice!  I remember going out to restaurants early in my recovery.  I had crepe manicotti (couldn't eat much, but made several meals of it at home), and nibbled the outsides of breadsticks.  The crispy crust parts of Italian bread chew nicely.
 
I'm still an advocate of toasting bread in the early weeks.  Saltine crackers are also a great option.
 
Happy Eating!
Denise

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   Posted 11/29/2011 10:19 AM (GMT -6)   
I am almost 3 weeks after second nissan. Yes, toast works. The only things I have had stick are some fish, scrambled eggs, and toasted cheese. I ate too fast and too much, I think. After I put some jelly on the eggs and some sauce on the fish, that went down o.k.

I want real food so badly, as I feel so weak eating just soft things..

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   Posted 11/29/2011 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
leniijane said...
I am almost 3 weeks after second nissan. Yes, toast works. The only things I have had stick are some fish, scrambled eggs, and toasted cheese. I ate too fast and too much, I think. After I put some jelly on the eggs and some sauce on the fish, that went down o.k.

I want real food so badly, as I feel so weak eating just soft things..


Me too... I've been eating liquidized food for 13 days now and am really fed up with it... any suggestions of what else I can eat will be much appreciated, the only normal food I've had is dunked biscuits, a banana, yoghert (which I don't really like) and spaghetti hoops.... all suggestions will be gratefully received - when can I start introducing normal food?

dencha
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   Posted 11/29/2011 10:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Donna and leniijane,
 
I would never suggest you vary from your own surgeons' eating protocol, but I can tell you that my surgeon's protocol of eating "anything that can be chewed to a liquid" worked just fine for me from Day 6 on. 
 
It's really a common sense approach, and you'll have to use your good minds to first guess which foods can do this, then only swallow those test foods that actually do. 
 
Take small bites and chew, chew, chew, chew, chew until it's a liquid.  You're basically doing the job of the blender, and if you're anything like me, the chewing is much more satisfying than swallowing mush that's already been liquified.
 
Have a paper napkin handy in which to deposit those things that don't chew to a liquid.  Don't swallow anything that doesn't fit that requirement.
 
Have some tea or warm water nearby to prime the pump and get your esophagus relaxed.
 
Honestly, I didn't have any trouble with that eating plan.  Sure, everyone who's recovering has their share of spasms and things that don't swallow comfortably, but I never had any serious hold-ups.
 
That said, I did have the very common collection of food and liquids that tend to sit at the wrap and not make the complete trip through.  It's not that some of it didn't get through...it's just that it didn't all finish the journey.
 
That's why, after eating it's good to drink water or tea.  The swallows help push any residual foods into the stomach where it belongs.
 
Happy Eating!
Denise

IamDonna
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   Posted 11/29/2011 11:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Denise

The only thing my surgeon told me was that I can eat everything as long as it's liquidized - that's it - no more so not sure how long I have to do that. Thing is I really miss my veggies i.e. sprouts and broccoli, cauliflower but I've read that I should avoid these as they cause bloating - how long should I avoid them for.... I love chewing so am happy to chew chew chew away to be able to eat other foods apart from those that can be liquidized..... should I be seeing a dietitian or should I just start introducing my normal foods now bit by bit as long as I chew chew chew? (tomorrow is 2 weeks since I had the op)

Thank you
Donna

dencha
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   Posted 11/29/2011 12:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Donna,
Unfortunately, it will be the better part of valor on your part to give up those really gassy veggies (my favorites, too) for a few more weeks.  Once things have healed more and your stomach, esophagus, and wrap are feeling more normal, you can start introducing a LITTLE of these foods and see how you do.  I would definitely recommend BEANO when you do that.  I think I relied on BEANO when I ate gassy foods for at least a year...maybe a little longer.  Better to be safe than sorry.  I don't need to take it anymore, although occasionally, I (and others around me) may wish I did!
 
I think you saw the URL to the document that provides eating suggestions, didn't you?  I'd follow that, as it points out what you shouldn't eat.  Really, just use your common sense.
 
Anything you eat should be cooked soft.  If you like your pasta and veggies el dente, you'll have to give that up for a while. 
 
I can't emphasize enough the need to spend some time after eating sipping water to keep those swallows going.  So many people start getting what they call "reflux", when in reality it's just food that hasn't made it through the wrap.
 
You can do this!
Denise
 
 

IamDonna
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   Posted 11/29/2011 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Denise :-) what is BEANO? over here it's a comic book

dencha
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   Posted 11/29/2011 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Donna,
Here's a link for BEANO via Amazon UK.  I don't know how much it is because I'm not fluent in your currency, but check it out:
You'll have to scroll down a bit on the page.
Good luck!
Denise

IamDonna
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   Posted 11/29/2011 2:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Brilliant - thanks Denise

Could you please send me the URL to the document that provides eating suggestions

Post Edited (IamDonna) : 11/29/2011 1:09:48 PM (GMT-7)


soliver38
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   Posted 11/29/2011 3:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Denise then i should wait another month for bread.even cooked rice its a problem to me....anyway..tnxs....

dencha
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   Posted 11/29/2011 3:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Solivar,
I think cooked rice is a real problem, as it is difficult to cook it until it is fully soft, and it tends to be clumpy by nature. 
 
If you can get it really, really well cooked so it's soft, you might be able to handle it better, but rice that is cooked in its typical consistency can cause problems. 
 
I avoided bread for a long time.  I love bread, so I enjoyed it toasted.  Do you have a problem with toasting the breads you eat?  if not, you should do just fine eating whatever you like with bread.  Just be sure that it is well toasted.
 
I think I've sent you this URL that needs to be copied and pasted into your browser window, with a list of things to eat and things to avoid.  Just in case I didn't, here it is:
 
 
Good luck!
Denise

dencha
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   Posted 11/29/2011 3:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Donna,
You are very welcome!
 
The link I gave Solivar is the same one I mentioned to you:
It needs to be copied and pasted into your web browser.
Denise
 
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