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stkitt
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   Posted 12/23/2011 2:25 PM (GMT -6)   
This is Part 2 of 2 for Dave's Journal of his Nissen Fundoplication
 
You will find Part 1 at this link: 
 
Just click on the link if you want to review something in part 1.
 
Keep on Dave......................
 
Thanks,
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   Posted 12/23/2011 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Posted Yesterday 10:55 AM (GMT -6)   by Dave234
 
Just had an Upper GI series and all looked good. Everything is behaving as it should. Barium staying down.

Then why do I feel this reflux in my esophagus if nothing is coming up from my stomach?

By the way, I am thrilled right now that it's working as it should! It's like the complete opposite of what it'd done before the surgery!

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   Posted 12/23/2011 2:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Posted Yesterday 11:32 AM (GMT -6)  by dencha
 
Hi Dave,
My guess is that it's still post-op irritation, and will resolve as time goes on.  You could have some food sitting at the wrap, so be sure to continue sipping water after you finish eating to keep the swallowing going for a bit.  Glad to hear everything is behaving as it should.
Denise

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   Posted 12/23/2011 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Posted Yesterday 11:32 AM (GMT -6)   by Non
 
Hi Dave!
Good news for you about your tests!
I´m having the same type of tests done in january, endoskopy and barium swallow. After that probably a PH-test, my surgeon wanted me to wait with that one for a while, be on the safe side of surgery and so on.

How did the endoskopy work out now that you have a Nissan wrap?
I´m afraid that they will stretch my wrap while doing the endoskopy... I´ll guess you are doing okey, and no stretched wrap?
Maybe it´s silly of me worring about that, but I still do a bit.
Don´t want anything to ruin my wrap...

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   Posted 12/23/2011 2:47 PM (GMT -6)   
   Posted Yesterday 12:08 PM (GMT -6)  by Nal
 
Good news Dave. Happy for you. I hope I'm there some day. Its two weeks today. Still having back and shoulder Pain and fill up quite easily. Also some stomach burning. Did you have shoulder or back pain? If so, what made it better or worse? Thanks

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   Posted 12/23/2011 2:49 PM (GMT -6)   
 Posted Yesterday 7:24 PM (GMT -6)   by Dave
 
Nancy, I still feel stomach pain, and reflux. But it's good to know that it's not actually reflux. It's just healing pains. Gotta love healing pains. They mean you're healing.

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   Posted 12/23/2011 2:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Posted Yesterday 8:11 PM (GMT -6) by Nal
 
Very true Dave! I did get down mostly soft solids today (an egg, couple soggy French fries, few bites of carrots, Mac and cheese and two mushy bites of boiled chicken) :). It's a day at a time. Do you still take any Meds for your stomach at all?

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   Posted 12/23/2011 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Ha ha; Awright!

opnwhl4
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   Posted 12/23/2011 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Dave-

Good to hear things are looking up for you.

Take care,
Bill
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stkitt
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   Posted 12/24/2011 8:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Dave,
 
Wishing you a happy holiday and hope things stay nice and easy for you.  Thank you for sharing your journal with all of the members and please do keep on posting here in your little corner of the world.
 
Kindly,
Kitt
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   Posted 12/27/2011 11:34 PM (GMT -6)   
My stomach is really hurting right now. I know that I ate too much, but wow does it hurt! I had like a small bowl of cereal, and a couple bites of pie and cake. This was about an hour after eating a tamale (very soft, ground up corn and chicken).

It feels all crampy but mainly painful.

Any thoughts?

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   Posted 12/29/2011 12:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dave,
I'm assuming by now you have recovered from your overeating experience. Unfortunately that's not all that unusual. As people start feeling able to eat more, they get a little over-enthusiastic and end up regretting it!

Hang in there. With more healing, the time will come when you will be eating normal amounts again without a problem.

Hope today is a good one!
Denise

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   Posted 12/30/2011 7:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes indeed, Denise! I'm feeling much better! I did eat 3 little things of chocolate last night (truffles), and I felt really nauseous. Anyone have that experience at 6 weeks? I did eat a lactaid beforehand to guard against problems from lactose intolerance.

Now that I'm at 6 weeks, can I start lifting weights again like a bodybuilding maniac? 250 lb max-out benchpresses?

Ha, just kidding. I'm going to hold off on the weights for another month and a half, and then start small, only to work my way up to about 200 lbs benchpresses and flyes, which will probably take a while since I haven't lifted in many months and now I'm looking almost skeletal. My surgeon says that will be fine at that time. Thoughts? Agree? Disagree?

How about swimming? I reallly want to get into swimming now that I'm skin and bones. I hear that it's the best kind of exercise someone can get. Anything bad about it at this stage of the game (6 weeks)?

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   Posted 12/31/2011 2:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Eloy posted at 10:12am

If I follow the post regimen of very small bites and chew every thing until it is liquid I can eat most soft foods. The biggest treat is the crackers I just found out I can eat. I know I am not getting enough nourishment, so I started the Ensure. I am going to try V8juice this morning. I have no more heartburn and I can finally breathe for the first time in two years. I never thought theger was the culprit. Like kit says, you can't take it back. I know my surgeon did a good job as mine was done at Mayo in Scottsdale.yes I had the hernia repair too. My hernia was much larger than on the films, so I imagine a lot more tugging and pulling took place.don' t let some of these people intimidate you about feeling the way you feel. Everyone is different. I am going to stay on my pain meds until I am pain fee. They make the pain less and it works for me so I can take my walks
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opnwhl4
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   Posted 12/31/2011 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Eloy-

I had meant to ask if you were taking pin meds since you were having so much pain swallowing. Please use them to make yourself more comfortable. Everyone has different pain with this surgery. some don't use them after a couple days, but I needed them for a few weeks.

Take care,
Bill
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Eloy
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   Posted 12/31/2011 3:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, hydro condone elixirq4-6 hrs.i take it 4 x a day. Least night I needed to repeat my dose after only 3 hrs.because.I couldn't get comfortable. I walked a little more today. I would like to wish all this pain away, but I am doing much better with managing it thanks to some of you. Happy New Year by the way

Dave234
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   Posted 1/2/2012 2:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I am at over 6 weeks, and I have been eating quite a bit. I don't eat bread or meat, but I have been eating some cookies, and crackers with lobster spread. I can't drink much (a couple glasses of wine, no more than that, with food). I'd say I'm still eating less than what "normal people" eat, but it's about as much. And my stomach (at the wrap site) hurts for a while after. I feel a bit nauseous. I had a couple cups of coffee this morning, with two small poached eggs and some crackers, and I am still full and feel a bit nauseous, even after the zofran anti-nausea pill. But it is getting better.

I felt a little tiny bit of reflux in my breathing afterwards, but I know the wrap site is holding strong.

I think I just need to not eat too much. I've been getting too comfortable with eating more (I ate some pistachio ice cream last night -- delicious!!!!)

Any thoughts on the below that I posted before:

"I'm going to hold off on the weights for another month and a half, and then start small, only to work my way up to about 200 lbs benchpresses and flyes, which will probably take a while since I haven't lifted in many months and now I'm looking almost skeletal. My surgeon says that will be fine at that time. Thoughts? Agree? Disagree?

How about swimming? I reallly want to get into swimming now that I'm skin and bones. I hear that it's the best kind of exercise someone can get. Anything bad about it at this stage of the game (6 weeks)?"

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   Posted 1/2/2012 6:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dave,

I've been keeping up with your recovery journal post-Nissen. Glad to hear you are doing so well. That's remarkable that you are able to drink glasses (plural!!) of wine after your surgery. Are you still taking PPI's??

Regarding your post on resuming exercise: I have not had the Nissen so I cannot offer any advice from personal experience. I have wondered the same thing though as I am an avid exerciser (lift weights and teach group fitness classes). I have read on here though that some people are back to cardio such as running, elliptical trainer, and spin class at 3-6 weeks depending on the person. I've only seen several posts on here about that though. I suppose there probably are quite a few folks though who do resume their exercise regimen but just don't post on the forum about it. There was a post about a guy who ruptured his wrap doing preacher curls 3 yrs post Nissen just a few weeks ago. That scares the heck out of me b/c I feel like I may opt for the Nissen myself later down the road and cannot fathom the thought of giving up my exercise. It keeps me sane :)

How's everything else? Do you have trouble swallowing at all or the increased flatulence I've read about? It seems like those are the top two side effects following the surgery.

Keep healing,

Liz

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   Posted 1/3/2012 12:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Dave-

I believe swimming would be great exercise to start things off. I can't think of anything it would hurt. I was swimming 4 weeks after my first redo, well guess that was more like 5 weeks. I keep forgetting I was stuck in the hospital for 3 weeks.

Take care,
Bill
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Dave234
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   Posted 1/3/2012 7:26 AM (GMT -6)   
"There was a post about a guy who ruptured his wrap doing preacher curls 3 yrs post Nissen just a few weeks ago."

Really?? Just preacher curls??? That makes me nervous! Those are just for the biceps alone! I want to be able to do bench presses, flyes, bicep curls, triceps, shoulders, etc, everything I used to do! I really don't want to always have to worry about rupturing my wrap while doing them!

Does that stuff happen often???

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   Posted 1/3/2012 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dave. Glad your doing better. I am too. Read my update?
Anyway I wouldn't do any type of lifting till you clear it with your dr. That's most important. When I saw my surgeon today he told me the norm is no lifting or pulling above 15lbs for 6-8 weeks minimum. I asked if I can go back to exercising (aerobics, fast walking with my 90lb shepherd shadow :) and he said that was ok but I that I needed to work very slowly into it. He said he's heard too many times of people rushing back into exercise and heavy lifting because they "feel" good but your insides still need to finish healing.

So that's my surgeons take. Please Dave, CLEAR it With your dr first ok?

Dave234
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   Posted 1/4/2012 12:08 AM (GMT -6)   
That sounds like good advice. And wouldn't you know it, I have my follow-up appt tomorrow afternoon. I'll ask him then.

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   Posted 1/4/2012 11:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm at just about 7 weeks and I've been feeling very nauseous lately, even after taking zofran 3 times a day.

But I'm also extremely hungry.

Do I need to back off the food I'd been eating (salmon, very soft cooked bell pepper, Chef Boyardee ravioli, etc) and move back to more liquid foods?

I get full so quickly still, after just a few crackers and a couple bites of salmon.

But I can eat a lot of ice cream (two coconut-skim milk bars and one little cup of pistachio ice cream) at night. Is that too much? I feel too full after that, though, so I think I'm going to just have one coconut-skim milk bar and nothing further than that.

Dave234
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   Posted 1/4/2012 11:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Also I've been eating raisin bran crunch in the morning, so that my body can get back on schedule, if you know what I mean. But I think that a bowl of it may be too much as I felt significant pain this morning (horrible, horrible pain, actually) in my abdomen in the form of some of the most intense, nauseating cramping I have ever felt in my life.

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   Posted 1/4/2012 12:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Just a thought -- I have IBS, and I've learned that I can no longer eat insoluble fiber in any quantity...Raisin Bran included. Is it possible that the cramping you're experiencing could be lower GI and not in the stomach or surgical site?

-Bruce
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