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lexipoo
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   Posted 1/5/2012 12:40 PM (GMT -6)   
:-) Hi its Alexis, just wondering if anyone is having Nissen Wrap done my is jan 12th at 8am after the surgrey will I be in alot of pain and what is the best thing to drink or try and eat cause I know I won't like to be drinking liquids for 2 weeks plus my surgreon wants me home in two how long was everyone in the hospital for. Give a little info Thanks Again Alexis

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   Posted 1/5/2012 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Alexis-
I was in the hos[ital for 3 days with my first 2 and 1.5 weeks with my last redo on 8/24/11, but that one was done as an open surgery.

Stay away from carbonated drinks, do not use a straw, and avoid very cold drinks( can cause spasms). Actually slightly warm drinks help to relax the esophagus and helps when you eat. Be prepared to only be able to eat about a 1/4 cup at a time for at least a couple weeks. The key is to eat very small frequent meals and chew VERY well. Also wait until you feel the food go past the wrap before taking another bite.

Don't get discouraged about feeling lousy the first few weeks or so. The wrap area will swell for about 2 to 3 weeks and then slowly go down. Do take pain meds when you need them. Don't wait until the pain is over bearing because it will be harder to get under control. There is a very real possibility your bowels will go haywire. Like having IBS because of the trauma to your system.

Please be sure to get anti nausea meds for at home. You do not want to be dry heaving. I keep them on hand at all times because I can't vomit after the surgery. Some people can, but most can't.

Remember that once your incisions heal your inside are not healed yet. It takes a good 6 months to a year before everything is fully healed.

Take care,
Bill
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   Posted 1/5/2012 4:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Alexis,
 
I was in the hospital for about 4 days because I had to have something else done for my lungs.  The incision pain is minimal and the nurses gave me heat pads which were great!  You will have gas pains from the air used during the surgery.  The best thing is to get up and walk to pass it.  You may not want to walk but it will help. I was able to have very soft foods when I left the hospital - pudding, applesauces, cream soups, ice cream, grits, etc.  Your doctor will let you know about those things.  Just remember that your insides have been moved around and they will take a while to heal.  Use your pain meds and your anti-nausea meds.  I found that I stopped my pain meds rather quickly but the nausea ones I used a little longer and still keep them on hand.  Everyone is different and I am sure you will do great!!
 
Ryobe

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   Posted 1/5/2012 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks very much for the info I can't take  pain so well sometimes if I have enough of it I can throw up. I had a french vanilla tonight and its really not agreeing with I hate it cause everything that I try and drink or eat i wanna throw up I know it will be hard when I come home. My surgreon wants me out in two days I am just really worried about the walking part. I had my appendix out last feb and they had sent me home a day to early and everything I ate or drank I threw up for 36 hours. And I know I can't have this done with this or it will ruin the outcome of surgrey all I can say is hopefully the heartburn will finally go away was told I had this in 2008 so 4 yrs of suffering. Trust me I hate this if anyone could tell  me if Ensure would be a good thing or anything else I would greatly apperciate Alexis VIEW IMAGE

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   Posted 1/5/2012 6:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Dear lexipoo and others who've just had the surgery:

I had the TIF and partial Nissen on 12/23 and I did find that walking helped. I did NOT want to walk or even move much, and looking back I think the gas used during surgery was one of the hardest parts, and most painful. I didn't want to choke down anything because of how bad swallowing was.

The nurse had to turn up the IV fluids because I wasn't taking anything in, and this made me have to pee more; once I was making myself get up to go pee, I felt, slowly, more and more relief as the gas left me.

So, I guess the advice from someone fresh out of surgery is: walk! you won't want to but just know it will help.

Second piece of advice: I was reluctant to ask for pain meds because of how they constipate, and so tried to tough it out. I did better and was better able to get up and walk to the bathroom when I changed this and asked for pain relief.

So there it is, for what it's worth. Hang in there, everybody!

JB in Northern CA

lexipoo
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   Posted 1/5/2012 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks again I have Cerebral Palsy in my left side of my body so it might effect me more then others cause they got two hands to try and move quick. But thanks again what have you been eating and Drinking cause my surgeon said two weeks of liquids I love my food and I am skinny enough now I will looose more weight what fun. So when was your Sugrey mine is next Thursday at 8am I am really worried about my outcome I really hope I don't get this (Dumping Symdrome) that alot of people have experienced on here. Can any suggest good liquids for me to eat and to buy so I will get full of what I am eating and don't feel sick from hunger. Thanks Again Alexis My Surgrey will be next Thursday at 8am at THE HAMILTON GENERAL HOSPITAL here in hamilton ont Thanks everyone for the info

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   Posted 1/5/2012 7:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Alexis,
You won't feel much hunger for a week or more. If you are afraid of losing weight I would get some Ensure or Carnation Instant Breakfast and make it with whole milk. You can probably have milk shakes. Warm tea with honey was comforting to me. You can put soup in the blender and add a little milk. They gave me cream of wheat, pudding, broth and jello in hospital.

If you have someone to massage your left shoulder and the surrounding area it will help with pain caused by the gas pumped into you during surgery. Once you are up and walking that helps a lot too. It also helps if you have a heating pad.

My surgery was 3 weeks ago and I'm doing fine and eating soft food and have a little pain. I was in hospital 2 nights. Don't feel bad about asking for pain pills. You'll heal faster when relaxed. Good luck to you!

Starry

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   Posted 1/5/2012 7:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Alexis,
Good luck with your surgery next week!  If you have a tendency to have nausea, be SURE to tell your surgeon.  He/she will want you to have anti-nausea meds at hand, because retching and vomiting are very hard on your wrap, and can actually cause it to fail.  Take it seriously.
 
Yes, Ensure and things like that are good for your first couple weeks.  I've heard of people who blenderize soups to make everything liquid, and enjoy that.  Be sure to ask your surgeon for suggestions.
 
I was only in the hospital overnight.  I went in one morning, had the surgery about 10AM, recovered during the day and overnight, and was released the next morning about 10AM.
 
Try to get your surgeon to write a script for pain meds in an elixir (liquid) form.  It's amazing how they tell us to only take liquids, then give huge solid pills for us to swallow!  Insist on liquid!
 
Also, get some liquid Tylenol (adult strength) to have when you don't need the narcotic pain med.  You'll probably need the heavy duty kind at night longer than during the day.
 
As for dumping syndrome...it's a temporary problem, and will resolve once your stomach adjusts to its new cofiguration.
 
I second (or is it "third") the motion that you should get up and start walking.  I was walking the halls at the hospital whenever I got up to go to the bathroom.  A night nurse gave me that tip, and it wa a great one. 
 
I found the more I walked, the less my shoulder hurt, and visa-versa.
 
Again, good luck with your surgery!  Glad you've joined us.
Best wishes,
Denise

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   Posted 1/5/2012 7:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Alexis-

One other thing. Since you do not do well with pain don't be afraid to stay an extra night if you feel you need to. It is way easier for them to control your pain at the hospital than you can at home. Remember fluids are very important. You don't want to get dehydrated and I have found if I go into surgery well hydrated I do better after surgery.

Walking is very good to help with recovery. I did find that even just getting out of bed was good to do when you weren't quite up to walking.

Take care,
Bill
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lexipoo
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   Posted 1/5/2012 8:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everyone I am so afarid I am thinking about cancelling my surgrey what do u all think I am hearing to many horror stories on how many people are suffering really bad from the Nissen Fundo

lexipoo
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   Posted 1/5/2012 8:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I just wanted to ask another questions do u think my surgeon could give me a script for liquid morphine or deludid cause I don't think tynenol is good cause they have called a recall on it cause it causes liver damage or liver failur it was on a commercial by the FDA tell me what u think thxs again Alexis P.S sorry for all the questions

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   Posted 1/5/2012 8:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Alexis,
Your doctor will definitely give you a pain medication for when you leave the hospital.  The strange thing is that many of us have had to battle it out with our docs to get liquid versions.  Be sure to contact your surgeon's office well ahead and request liquid pain medication.
You don't have to take Tylenol...it's just that the narcotic drugs can make you feel ill after a while, and the Tylenol is much easier on your stomach.
Don't worry about the surgery.  You'll do fine.
Denise

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   Posted 1/5/2012 8:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Alexis,

People tend to write on these boards if they have problems. The people that don't have problems with the surgery don't bother to tell their story as often. Why are you having the surgery? My surgeon told me it was dangerous to NOT have it done when there is a paraesophageal hernia because it can twist and cut off blood supply to your stomach. If I remember correctly you also have that type of hernia. Large paraesophageal hernias can cause anemia and other problems too.

I had no problem taking regular pills after surgery. You might not have a problem either. You can crush pills and put them in a little applesauce if you can't get liquid. Since I quit taking pain pills I have not needed Tylenol. Some people use Children's Liquid Tylenol.

Try to relax. I can tell you are very worried. Chances are everything will be fine. Being prepared, as you are, makes your recovery faster.

Starry

lexipoo
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   Posted 1/5/2012 8:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank Starry and Denise!!!! this is a whole new experience my friend has a hernia and is scared to death to have anything done with it?
Starry what have you been eating how is your healing coming along? thxs Alexis

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   Posted 1/5/2012 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm eating pasta, eggs, cheese, crackers, soup, yogurt, steamed veggies (very cooked) and doing fine. I have a little pain but not enough for meds. The incisions are barely visible. My surgeon said I was healing very well. I was scared too. When he told me I had to have the surgery I said no. I went home and read about what could happen with this kind of hernia and decided I'd better have the surgery. I'm not sorry at all. I would have been worried living with the hernia, afraid something would happen and I couldn't get to the hospital in time.

Starry

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   Posted 1/5/2012 9:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I am crying cause I am in so much pain it travels from my lungs (Asthama) which makes it hard to breath sometimes sevre chest pains hurts the liver ribs and and the hernia blows up into my pancreas I have had this for 4 yrs just gottten worse in the last yr plus I suffer sereve painc attacks on meds for those too and I have Cerebral Palsy in my left side too. I have had so many sugries in life its crazy I just don't want another sugrey. So if I don't get this done it would kill me eventually?

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   Posted 1/5/2012 9:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Alexis-

Sounds like you really need this surgery. Just food for thought, If this surgery is so bad I wouldn't have had 3 done. My circumstances that led up to the 2 redos was a fluke. If mine came apart tomorrow I would be in my surgeon office getting a barum swallow and manometry scheduled so I could have it redone again. Oh, and my last redo on 8/24/11 was done open and wasn't no where as bad as I thought it would be.

We all get cold feet with all the what if thinking waiting for surgery day. Try to find something relaxing to do and before you know it you will be in the "Wrapped Club" and on your way to recovery.

I myself think there are way more people who don't have severe problems after this surgery, but you don't hear about them because they are happy.

Take care,
Bill devil
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imstarryeyed
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   Posted 1/5/2012 10:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Alexis,

Paraesophageal hernias tend to get larger. They can be dangerous. Eventually, not only your stomach, but your intestines can move into your chest if you don't have surgery. It sounds like yours is causing problems that will be relieved from surgery. Over half of my stomach was in my chest pressing against my other organs. I have asthma and anemia related to the hernia. Your surgeon will pull your stomach back to where it belongs and it will take pressure off of your liver, lungs and other organs. It sounds like you definitely need the surgery and it will give you relief from pain. Your problem will not correct itself.

Try to relax and think of how much better you'll feel a month from now!

Starry

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   Posted 1/6/2012 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Bill, and Starry I hope you are both right and everything goes well Maybe I am just getting myself worked up for nothing. Is there anything else I should be thinking about preparing myself before sugrey like meds or food what did you eat and drink the first two weeks of post -op please let me know got to do some shopping this week before thursday gets here. Which way should I sleep when I come home from the hospital and will I still have gas built up from surgrey how long before that goes away thanks again Alexis

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   Posted 1/6/2012 6:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Alexis,
Everyone is different, of course, so you may not need all of this advice. I slept in a chair with my feet up for a couple of nights after the hospital. I tried the bed but it hurt too much. I can sleep in a bed now, but only on my back. I suggest having a few pillows wherever you are (sofa, bed, car) as they help to keep you comfortable, especially if you sneeze or cough. A heating pad is useful, too.

If you have a tank top bra or a sports bra, that will be helpful (if you need to wear a bra- I do). One of the incisions is at the bra line. I also wore yoga pants at first. They have a wide soft waist band that doesn't hurt your middle.

I bought yogurt, pudding, broth, soup, jello, cream of wheat, apple juice and different teas. You can mix applesauce or jam with the cream of wheat or yogurt for a change. If you are worried about weight loss buy Ensure or protein drinks.

It'll be over before you know it! Relax!
Starry

lexipoo
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   Posted 1/7/2012 7:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I am getting some protein shake and Ensure I am eating whatever I can leading up to my operation starry just cause I know I will not be eating solid food for awhile>
What did u drink the first two week of Post-Op would jello be good to slide down the throat. I have three pillows I sleep with. Should I just Sleep on my back the whole time of Recovery. So Starry and anyone else in here could tell me any other suggestions This would help me out alot. Thank You Vey Much Alexis

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   Posted 1/7/2012 10:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Alexis-

I had a hard time laying down to sleep for quite sometime after my surgeries and and am lucky I have a couch with recliner ends. I also have a very cushy recliner and slept in those for a couple weeks. Much easier to get comfy for me and made it easier to get up to walk or o to the bathroom. Also use that pillow to hold tight against your stomach when you cough or sneeze or it will hurt badly. If you do sleep in bed it is easier to roll to one side and then use your arms to push yourself up. This way you don't have to use your stomach muscles so much.

Take care,
Bill
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imstarryeyed
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   Posted 1/8/2012 12:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Alexis,

What Bill said about sleeping is exactly how I've felt. I wish I had a recliner. If I had one I would have slept in it. It's still very hard for me to get out of bed because my stomach hurts when I roll on my side. If you have a recliner it's definitely your best option for sleeping and for sitting. You will know if you can sleep on your side. It's still too painful for me.

I've been drinking a lot of hot tea. Warm feels better to my stomach. You can't have soda but you can have apple juice. Jello is good. Also pudding, applesauce and yogurt. I would stock up on those things. Also your favorite soups. If your soup is chunky you may need to blend it.

Starry
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