Nissen Failure????

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RefluxSuxs
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   Posted 1/28/2012 10:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Everyone

I had the Nissen Fundoplication 10 weeks ago for Gerd & Hiatus Hernia.

Prior to the operation my main concern was my breathing (much more than the heartburn itself) - I always feel like there is air building up in my chest and throat and I get lots of burping but it doesn't really relieve it.

I was hoping the Nissen would have sorted this out but it isn't really any better. Im now wondering if the surgery has failed.

How long did it take your breathing to improve after surgery?

Craig

dencha
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   Posted 1/28/2012 10:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Craig,
Welcome to Healing Well! Ten weeks is much to soon to be making any decisions as to the success or failure of a Nissen surgery.  The healing is a long-term thing, and it takes a full 6 months for most of the healing, and a full year for the rest.
 
I also had the surgery due to breathing issues, but I believe they were different than yours.  I have asthma, and the reflux I was experiencing caused it to be uncontrollable.
 
It took me almost exactly 10 weeks to begin seeing improvement. At that point I finally was able to go off my nebulizer treatments and was breathing better again.  Over the next months and even a year or more, my lungs continued to improve, until today they're healthy and I'm doing fine.
 
Each person's recovery is unique.  Try to relax into it and let it happen at its own pace.  It takes time to undo the damage that was done by reflux.  You didn't get the problem in 10 weeks, and it's probably not going away in 10 weeks.
 
Again, welcome to the forum!
I hope you begin to feel relief soon.
Denise

LocalGuy23
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   Posted 1/28/2012 4:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Craig,

Was your symptoms painful or a discomfort?

Did you have a burning feeling when you would breathe, sore throat, etc.?

I'm due for a Nissen in about 9 days for a LPR like symptoms....burning sensations in stomach, throat, mouth.....

I hope you feel better.

Max

RefluxSuxs
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   Posted 1/29/2012 12:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Denise

Thanks for your reply- Ive noticed that you give a lot of advice to people on this forumn and Im sure its greatly appreciated!

I actually started feeling better after about 3 weeks and made steady progress up to around the 7 week mark - although still had problems with breathing wasnt getting as much heartburn. However things have been going down hill for the last 3 weeks - more heartburn, really dirty taste in my throat and lots of issues with breathing and burping.

When I saw my surgeon 2 weeks ago he said I shouldnt have heartburn anymore as everything should be tightened up - I know most people on this forumn say differently. He told me to come back in the middle of February and if no improvement he would run some tests so I guess thats where its heading now.

I have read some of your posts about your condition before surgery - it didnt sound very nice at all - Im glad your doing well now!

Take Care

Craig

RefluxSuxs
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   Posted 1/29/2012 12:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Max

Thanks for your reply

My symptoms were/are mainly discomfort - I feel like I cant breathe properly and its makes me feel really exhausted and anxious.

I wouldnt say I have a burning feeling when I breathe its more a case of feel Im not getting proper breaths and the build up of air in my chest and throat is really uncomfortable.

My Surgery was for hernia and Gerd but after reading about LPR it sounds like I definitely have that too. However I think the surgery is the same so for all conditions so you would have thought it should have sorted those symptoms too.

The only thing I can think is that the Surgeon didn't consider LPR and just tightened the lower sphincter as I understand that LPR is related to the upper sphincter but who knows!!!???

Good Luck with your surgery!

opnwhl4
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   Posted 1/29/2012 6:38 PM (GMT -6)   
refluxSuxs-

It comes from the same. The LES, which is where the stomach and esophagus meet. There is an upper one, but is at the top of your throat. LPR can be hard to get healed since very small anounts of acid can cause problems. It can also take a lot longer to heal since that area is very delicate.

Take care,
Bill
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RefluxSuxs
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   Posted 1/30/2012 7:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Bill

Do my symptoms sound like LPR to you? What causes it, is it like an allergic reaction to the acid?

Craig

dencha
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   Posted 1/30/2012 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Craig,
As Bill said so well, the fix for GERD is th same as the fix for LPR. Once the acid is stopped at the wrap site it shouldn't be going into your throat either.
Sometimes the wrap is tight enough to stop food from passing through. In that case (in most cases during recovery) it can sit at the bottom of the esophagus and ferment. It can then reflux into the esophagus/throat and create problems similar to the LPR you suffered before surgery.
 
The fact that you've experienced a change leads me to suspect that perhaps you've gotten lax with your eating, and are either eating the wrong things, or are forgetting to take small bites and chew, chew, chew.  Also, be sure to take lots of water sips to help things move through the wrap.
 
Give it a try, give it some time, and see if it helps.
Glad you've joined the forum!
Denise
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