A question for Nissen Veterans

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LocalGuy23
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   Posted 2/28/2012 12:48 AM (GMT -6)   
When doctors and others say complete healing takes about 6 months, what does that mean?

Does that mean the wrap needs to heal in place to prevent reflux?

I am about 3 weeks post op. I believe I still feel some LPR symptoms but it's hard to tell cause I've gotten so immune to it over the past year. There was redness in my mouth and I would use that as a gauge if I'm healing or not which is probably a terrible idea cause I'm no ENT or dentist.

But slowly I've gotten back to my routine/life by going back to work and exercising. My diet is still liquid/soft foods.

But I'm wondering why does it 6 months for the majority of healing to occur? I know many have seen instant results with right after surgery even a month which worries me a bit that I might not be one of them.....

Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you.

JAM1986
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   Posted 2/28/2012 2:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm with you Maximus. I'm concerned also. My mouth feels like it's burning and I have ulcers under my tongue. I also have bad breath from all the burn and a white coated tongue. Is this what you are experiencing also? I had my nissen redo on February 1, 2012, and I still have a burning mouth. Is there anyone out there that experienced this with an eventual resolution of LPR?

LocalGuy23
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   Posted 2/28/2012 2:18 AM (GMT -6)   
yes similar symptoms.

when was your first nissen. did it help?

dencha
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   Posted 2/28/2012 10:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Max and JAM,
Are you both still on PPIs?  If not, you should be.  During healing, as we've said many times, it's possible for some reflux to sneak by the wrap.  Also LPRers are far more sensitive to small amounts of reflux than the general Nissen population, so it's even more important to be protected.
 
Believe me, I know what you're feeling.  When I had my surgery, I didn't see any improvement in my lungs for two-and-a-half months.  It's hard to be patient, and it's natural to worry.
 
The six month mark...and the year mark...they are reminders that your upper GI tract has been totally revised, and it takes that long for it to adjust to the changes.  Those discomforts in the wrap area, vagus nerve irriation, swallowing issues, bloating, swelling, etc, etc, etc...all those things will take time to resolve. 
 
I was experiencing intermittent dumping through the first year, and figured it was something I'd be dealing with forever.  Yet, somewhere in the second year (I can't pin it down) I suddenly realized that it wasn't happening any more.
 
In my experience, it takes time for inflammation of GI tissue to calm down. 
I know it's hard to wait, and hard to trust that it will happen. 
Patience,
Denise

Cindy123
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   Posted 2/28/2012 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Maximus I would be really cautious about exercising after three weeks other than walking but certainly no lifting. My cousin had her surgery two months ago and all her symptoms came back full force from vomiting....I think she might have ruined her wrap...can you imagine if vomiting alone can ruin the wrap, what weights might do to it. Please be careful. I know you are very anxious. I waited 6 to 8 months before starting to lift weights and I don't go anywhere where I used to. I do free weights of 15 llbs. I mostly walk, job, run. I used to do kick boxing and workout three or four times at the gym with weights....I am now walking/running/jogging three times a week with some weights.

Don't worry, you are very early into your recovery....I am sorry I am not able to give any advice with your other symptoms as I had silent reflux.

Take care.

Cindy

JAM1986
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   Posted 2/28/2012 11:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Maximus,

My first surgery was in 2008 and I noticed a big difference soon after. I had no more reflux symptoms but developed an ulcer because I was taking PPIs for fifteen years prior. My stomach had to get used to the acid. Before my first surgery I did not have any LPR but I had regurgitation of stomach contents into my mouth when I lay down and aspiration into the lungs. I developed LPR when I herniated my stomach again through my diaphragm in 2011. The wrapped portion was above the diaphragm. Whatever you do stay away from amusement parks. Some of those rides can pull Gs or G force enough to ruin the wrap such as a roller coaster ride.

Marcello
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   Posted 2/29/2012 1:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Great thread Maximus, looks like we're on the same page.

JAM1986 said...
Maximus,

My first surgery was in 2008 and I noticed a big difference soon after. I had no more reflux symptoms but...
This is what I don't have. I'm seeing more and more of these type of posts. I would do anything for the side effects (which seem to ease with time) for a working wrap.

LocalGuy23
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   Posted 2/29/2012 7:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Cindy,

What kind of symptoms did you have?
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