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Jim78
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   Posted 2/28/2012 4:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello All,
I'm new to the site. I have a question I 'd like to bounce off of ya.
 
Last year I was diagnosed through endoscopy with erosive esoph and mild gastritus and reflux. I was put on a double dose of aciphex   and in 8 weeks I was back to normal and reduced my aciphex back to 20 mg a day for the reflux. That worked great for 7 months until I decided to try to wean myself off aciphex and at the same time begin anew my daily regiment of niacin. I was also taking some NSAIDs to relieve some neck pain. Needless to say, gastritus came back with vengeance. I started taking double aciphex again and the burning is gone all I'm dealing with now are the mild hunger pangs that wake me and stay with me through the morning up till I eat lunch after which they usually subside.
My question is this. How long has it taken some of you to get over gastritus? Also, once one shows a suceptibilty to gastritus is it recommended to remain on a PPI even if one is feeling better?

Post Edited (Jim78) : 2/29/2012 6:32:29 AM (GMT-7)


Tinlou
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   Posted 2/28/2012 4:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I am not sure about anyone else but mine has come and gone for years. I have had bouts of flare-ups that send me to the ER only to be told it is Gastritis. It doesn't sound bad but it sure makes you feel bad. I really have to watch my diet, eliminated chocolate as much as possible, greasy foods, pop/sodas, and even apple skins can make me sick. Watch out for aspirin too it is very hard on the stomach and will make gastritis worse, even tylenol makes me ill.
Are you taking anything now? I take a zegerid everyday and it seems to help.

sunbeam48
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   Posted 2/28/2012 6:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Your doctor could prescribe something, maybe carafate, to help your stomach heal more quickly.  Pepto Bismol is an OTC product that coats the stomach and acts as an antacid, that might help.

stkitt
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   Posted 2/28/2012 7:24 PM (GMT -6)   

Welcome to the GERD/Heartburn forum. This forum is for questions, discussions and support relating to Gastroesophageal Reflux (GERD - Heartburn) and include Causes, Complications, Diagnosis, Medical Treatments, Surgical Treatments, and Symptoms. I am so glad you found us. 

Treatment of gastritis is usually aimed at the cause. The most common causes included use of ASA and the antiflammatory drugs - Ibuprofen, Aleve etc, alcohol, smoking, infection of the stomach with Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) bacteria and erosion of the protective layer of the stomach lining.

Less common causes include backflow of bile into the stomach (bile reflux),  autoimmune disorders (such as pernicious anemia), excess gastric acid secretion (such as from stress) and viral infection, especially in people with a weak immune system.  This least is not all inclusive but knowing your cause will help you learn to deal with your gastritis. Do continue to work with your Dr. on a treatment plan specific to you.

Kindly,

Kitt

 

 


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Jim78
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   Posted 2/29/2012 8:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Tinlou, I am taking 40mg of aciphex while I deal with the gastritus. I take one 20mg in the am and one pm. Based on what I'm hearing from others my case is mild compared to most. The worse Ive had is burning and hungerpangs. I ve never had nausea or the other severe symptoms. After starting the 40mg two weeks ago the burning is gone. I have some days where I deal with mild hunger pangs an hour after eating but even that isn't too bad. It appears that I will always be one that must watch what I eat.

Tinlou
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   Posted 2/29/2012 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
My doctor gave me samples of aciphex but I was afraid of the side effects, have you had any? And is there anything else you can take besides nsaids for your neck pain? That might not be helping your gastritis either so i would see if there are other options for you.

Jim78
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   Posted 2/29/2012 11:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Tinlou, I have stopped taking all forms of meds. No aspirin or nsaids at all.
I have some minor side effects when taking the 40 mg but not with the 20mg. I can tell my stomach swells some when I take the 40mg. This is, according to my a doc, an unfortunate side effect of both the gastritus and of removing too much acid from your system. Low acid can mimick some of the same symptoms that too much stomach acid can. Other than that I have no side effects. I cant take Prilosec I get throat swelling and throat sores with it.
 

Tinlou
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   Posted 2/29/2012 1:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Prilosec gave me anxiety/panic attacks for some reason. It seems gastritis is just something that you have to try hard to keep under control. LIke Kitt said, stress can even make it flare up and I know that from experience. Have you had to change your diet at all? I did and it does help. If you look bad when you had issues/burning and in my case nausea, we most likely can find that it was either related to food or stressful times and possibly to many pain meds.

Jim78
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   Posted 3/1/2012 9:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, Ive changed my diet. I can eat almost anything I want with the exception of those hard to digest foods. It's the beverages that seem to bother me the most. Coffee and tea are no no's for me. Like I said I think my case is mild compared to many. I feel sure that Nsaids and niacin were the primary contributing factors in mine coming back. How long have you had gastritus?

Tinlou
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   Posted 3/1/2012 10:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Mine started many years ago after taking Tylenol PM's almost every night to help me sleep. I think it was what really started it all and then after that I would have yearly flare ups and had no idea why until I went to the ER a couple of times and was diagnosed with gastritis. I have a pretty weak stomach anyway and it doesn't take much to make if flare up.The hunger pangs you describe are confusing though. I get that and sometimes feel its is hunger but it may really be burning.

Jim78
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   Posted 3/1/2012 1:15 PM (GMT -6)   
According to my doctors the hunger pangs are related to the irritation in the stomach.  Stomach acid will irritate the inflamed areas and this is one of the sensations that it can create along with the constant burning. Something I've also heard is that low stomach acid can create this same sensation. My hunger pangs were very strong at first but are more mild now. I don't have them every day but when i do get them they are usually in the mornning. I have a friend who has also been diagnosed with gastritus and his hunger pangs were so bad that he would get up in the middle of the night and eat a sandwhich. I ve found that eating a big breakfast helps me with them.  

Jim78
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   Posted 3/1/2012 1:17 PM (GMT -6)   
And yes the pangs you are feeling aren't real hunger but the irritation.
 
What PPI are you taking now and do you experience any side effects?

Tinlou
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   Posted 3/1/2012 2:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I am just taking otc zegerid everyday and it has been working fairly well. Once in a while I have breakthrough and will get nauseated but it seems better No real side effects from the zegerid though.

Gastritis is a bit of a mystery, it will go away for quite a while and then will come back again. You are lucky that you didn't get the nausea with your gastritis, that is the absolute worst but the burning is pretty bad too. How long have you had gastritis and do you know when/how it began?

Jim78
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   Posted 3/1/2012 4:23 PM (GMT -6)   
My first episode began in the summer of 2010. I've had acid indigestion for years but that was the extent of it..or so I thought. That summer I began to have severe painful bouts of bloating in my upper abdomen. From there I started having severe heartburn and then in Jan of 2011 the burning and hunger sensations began waking me in the night. I had an endoscopy in March 2011 and they put me on 40mg of aciphex for two months. I was better in April and went back to 20mg and was fine until this latest event. As to what caused mine. The docs speculate that it was a combination of my acid reflux and also my overuse of meds with aspirin and nsaids as well as my daily use of niacin. The same things that triggered this latest episode.  My endoscopy revealed gastritus and erosive esophagitis.
Have you had an endoscopy?

Jim78
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   Posted 3/1/2012 4:27 PM (GMT -6)   
You are using an antacid rather than a PPI. Have you tried any PPI's? You may find that using one might give you complete relief. My doc and others have said that even using a standard 15 to 20 mg PPI daily doesn't stop your stomach from producing acid completely. I have no side effects at all on 20mg a day of aciphex. It's not until I get to 40mg a day that I start having side effects.

Tinlou
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   Posted 3/1/2012 6:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I did have an endoscopy and nothing was found..don't you just love it when that happens?? Made me think it was all in my head but it definitely isn't.

I was given a script for aciphex but I read up on the side effects and it scared me away. I will have to look and see how many milligrams it is because if it is 20mg like yours is I might just try it.

Jim78
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   Posted 3/2/2012 4:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow,they didn't even diagnose you with gastritus or any type of irritation of the stomach. Considering the severity of your side symptoms thats suprising. You must have a cast iron stomach wink

Tinlou
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   Posted 3/2/2012 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Definitely not..lol! The ER doctor diagnosed gastritis and my regular doctor diagnosed silent gerd because I don't get the typical heartburn, gagging, reflux. I guess it is a good thing nothing showed up but then again it is sort of irritating at the same time. I just do my best to stay active, eat right and stay stress free as much as I can. Hard to do but not impossible. In a way this forced me to start working out and eating better so it isn't all negative. I guess our bodies will let us know when we aren't treating it right. What were your original symptoms?

Gastritis2012
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   Posted 3/2/2012 6:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello this is my first post here. I have been suffering from what appears Gastritis for nearly 6 months straight. I have cough that starts after i get up in the morning and seems like Phlem but is always clear. Then through the day it can come on again depending on what i eat. I am off chocolate anything with citrus, and coffee,alcohol. Since this started my stools have been soft and yellowish too, with rumbling stomach and intestines. My doctor had me do all sorts of blood tests and all came back negative. He had me on Nexium then Pariet for a while then back to Nexium. I have had xrays of my chest which all came back clear. In the end he sent me to specialist for a Gastroscopy last week and report came back as moderate Gastritis and irritation in throat, no cancer or ulcers. My follow up appointment is next week to get the full report from specialist. I wanted to mention that i have found Manuka Honey from NZ seems to work well it is expensive $45 for 250gram jar but my chest pain has gone and my sore throat is feeling better. Might be worth checking out work on GERD etc.

Jim78
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   Posted 3/5/2012 8:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Ive heard Manuka honey is good but have never tried it.

Jim78
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   Posted 3/5/2012 8:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Tinlou said...
Definitely not..lol! The ER doctor diagnosed gastritis and my regular doctor diagnosed silent gerd because I don't get the typical heartburn, gagging, reflux. I guess it is a good thing nothing showed up but then again it is sort of irritating at the same time. I just do my best to stay active, eat right and stay stress free as much as I can. Hard to do but not impossible. In a way this forced me to start working out and eating better so it isn't all negative. I guess our bodies will let us know when we aren't treating it right. What were your original symptoms? 
My symptoms started as painful bloating in the chest area and of course acid indigestion. The burning and hunger sensations started late and was the final straw in sending me to the doc to have a look.
I have always been an active individual. Running and staying fit, but this has definitely changed the way I eat.
I dont think this is posting right with the quote so sorry if it looks strange.

Tinlou
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   Posted 3/5/2012 10:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Your post showed up fine, I guess I should have read your first post and I would have known your symptoms..sorry.
Your symptoms also sound a lot like GERD so I wonder if gastritis/gerd are one in the same and tend to go hand in hand with each other. I know that I have both as well. You are right though, I think it is diet related most of the time. I still have good days and bad days though. How about you?

dencha
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   Posted 3/5/2012 11:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jim,
Welcome to Healing Well!  As a fellow sensitive stomach/gastritis sufferer, I feel your pain.
 
I can share my own experiences...
First, I have found that for some reason my stomach is very sensitive.  My GI doc described it as "reactive". 
 
One big trigger I've found is antibiotics.  I really can't take anything but amoxicillin or maybe z-pac without getting myself into a full-blown gastritis episode.
 
I've stopped taking all pain meds.  I used to take NSAIDS for back issues (I've had a herniated disk), but now I don't take anthing even for a headache.  I'm an ice fan, and use it for various and sundry pains.
 
When my stomach starts acting up, yes, I go back to taking double dose PPIs to protect it from acid.  I also use Carafate suspension, and find it extremely helpful.  It's expensive, but if you have good prescription coverage you should consider asking for it.  If your script coverage is poor on non existance you could get a script for regular Carafate, which is generic/pill form.  You an put the pill into a medicine cup and stir it in with a little water.  Then throw it back like a shot.  It'll coat your esophagus a little on the way down. 
 
The pill will coat your stomach, so if your stomach is the only problem the pill would work fine.  If you've gotten some esophagitis or irritation there, the suspension is the best.  Just take note of the dosing directions if you start Carafate, as you have to keep it away from meals and medications.
 
As far as how long it takes to heal...I have had the Nissen surgery because my reflux caused issues with my lungs.  Before I had that done, whenever my gastritis would flare it would lead to esophagitis, and it was very difficult to heal.  I wouldn't be able to eat more than tiny amounts without pain, and I'd always lose about 20 pounds.  It would always take 2-3 months to heal. 
 
When you have a gastritis/esophagitis issue, you'll want to eat smooth foods.  Rough foods will scratch and irritate your tissue, both in the esophagus and in the stomach (the stomach mashes food as it digests, and if there are rough things in there they'll cause additional pain and irritation.)  The same thing with the types of food...no spicy or acidic things and stay away from alcohol.
 
My GI doc told me that when my stomach felt perfect for 2 weeks, then I could try introducing nire challenging foods.
 
Good luck!
Glad you've joined us.
Denise
 
 

Post Edited (dencha) : 3/5/2012 9:08:06 AM (GMT-7)


Jim78
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   Posted 3/5/2012 1:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Tinlou,
As of right now Im doing much better. This week marks the 4th week of doubling up on my PPI (aciphex). Last bout I was on a double dose for 2 months. My only symptoms now are really just from the side effects of the aciphex.
How are you doing?  Do you have alot of stress that contributes to your issues?

Jim78
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   Posted 3/5/2012 1:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Dencha, Ive just heard about Carafate. I would like to try it on my next go round with gastritus:).
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