Had Nissen surgery done on monday the 26th having chest pain days after.

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Burninghell
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   Posted 3/31/2012 11:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok so I couldn't take it any longer, had all the tests done and schedule surgery.
 
 
 
Had the surgery done on Monday morning, was in the hospital for a night.
 
 
come home tuesday afternoon, was ok, sore and stuff and some pain in my shoulders, really bad headache due to the pain meds and stuff.
 
wasn't too bad on wednesday, was on the liquid diet.
 
 
well on Thursday i started to get the same kind of chestpain i've been dealing with, it would come and go throughout the day and then late at night i was getting it bad i had to get up and walk around cause it was driving me crazy, i looked some stuff up online, and came to the conclusion the same pain can be caused by the swollen esophagus or some irritation yet from teh surgery, well early friday morning i still had pain, and it eventually subsided, had a little again friday night but it wasn't bad.
 
 
Today saturday it was light pain, came and go, and some stomachaches which i guess is normal.
 
Well again now for about an hour or so i've been having bad pain again.
 
Is this really normal for it to come and go like that?
 
I barely eat anything right now.   I'm very frustrated, i'm on pain meds but they don't seem to do anything for the chest pain just the other pains.
 
 
I hope to god this is normal and i don't need further garbage done, i don't have another appointment until the 12th of april.

Nal
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   Posted 3/31/2012 11:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello. I had my surgery dec 8. For me the chest pain was totally normal. Lasted a couple weeks for me. I also had bad left shoulder pain. That went away after a month. I've other issues since the surgery ( nausea, tightness of my wrap) but my drs are working hard on it. Stay with that liquid diet for a while if you can. Follow your drs instructions and ask tons of questions here

Burninghell
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   Posted 3/31/2012 11:54 PM (GMT -6)   
hey thanks for the fast reply, just feels hopeless with this amount of pain again, ready to pull my hair out.

yeah i've been dealing with the shoulder pain as well, only been on liquids except for maybe some really watery coco-wheats which went down easier then pudding.

but yeah i'm sur ei'll be here often i have off work for 6 weeks because of the weight restrictions i wouldn't be able to do anything at work.

dencha
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   Posted 4/1/2012 9:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Burning,
First, welcome to the Healing Well yeah yeah yeah Wrapped Club! yeah yeah yeah You're now in the toughest part of the recovery, so hang in there...it will get better over time.
 
Your wrap is becoming increasingly more swollen at this point, which can cause swallowing problems and discomfort.  Peak swelling is reached somewhere around the two week mark, then begins to subside.
 
The problem with this laproscopic surgery is that your outsides are no indication of the mayhem that went on inside you.  Your internal organs have been moved around, your stomach has been stretched and wrapped and stitched, and you've had a hernia repair. 
 
This is major surgery, and internal pain is totally understandable.  Your outsides will heal and you'll be back to normal far sooner than your insides.  It takes 6 months for the majority of the healing and a full year for the rest.  That doesn't mean you'll deal with chest pain that entire time, but it does point out the fact that you're at the infancy of your recovery.
 
When you say that you're dealing with the "same kind of chest pain", am I to assume that it was one of your pre-surgery discomforts that led you to surgery?  If this is the case, don't panic.  First, it takes time for whatever irritation you've had leading up to surgery to heal and resolve.  Second, your esophagus is a "dumb organ" and it interprets all pain as reflux, and sends that message to your brain.  It's understandable that you'd have pain in your esophagus and chest area, as that was where the majority of work was done.
 
Obviously, if your pain increases or you are concerned in any way, be sure to call your surgeon's office.  That's why they get paid the big bucks!
 
I'm quite confident that the sensations you're experiencing are quite normal.  Still, your surgeon is just a phone call away.  I'm sure they'd want you to report severe pain or discomfort.
 
Happy healing!
Denise

kyheart
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   Posted 4/1/2012 10:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Burninghell

Please take heart of Denise's advice.. I was wrapped 1 year ago today and Denise and the Gang here helped me through this thing called recovery... I do not know what I would have done without them... surely not as well as I have..
The best advice I can give you is please relax into your recovery. Don't push it, the recovery will go very smoothly if you will just flow with what your body accepts and listen to it when it says NO! Once you hit the 2 week mark you will realize that day by day things are beginning to go better.As Denise said, your insides have been lifted, pushed, pulled, cut, stitched and wrapped.. it is going to take time for the inside to heal.. the outside will be healed and look great in a few weeks but, please do not over do it. Listen to your body and you can't go wrong.

Please remember that everyone here will be here for you to talk to. We welcome you to share with us your pain, fear, frustration and above all triumphs. We understand what you are going through and we know what you feel.

Please let us share in your recovery and maybe you can pay it forward to help someone new one day.

Welcome.... and remember

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Burninghell
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   Posted 4/1/2012 11:19 AM (GMT -6)   
thanks a lot, both of you, just can't wait till the pain subsides so i can get better and start living my life again.


Guess I got a bit of a rough road to go yet.


Thanks a lot.

dencha
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   Posted 4/1/2012 11:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Hang in there burning...
it WILL get better.  Try to do your best to go with the flow, and surrender to the process.  If you can accept what IS, it makes it a lot easier to deal with recovery. 
 
Just take it a day at a time, and maybe sometimes an hour at a time.  We're here whenever you have a question or need to vent.
 
Many of us have been just where you are right now, and can say today that it was all worth it.  If you have any questions, ask away.  That's what we're here for.
Like you, I sought help here at the forum when I had my surgery 3 years ago.  Everyone here was so helpful I decided to stick around and help others the way I was helped. 
 
Take care,
Denise
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pegster
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   Posted 4/2/2012 5:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Did you have hernia repair? Stitches in the diaphragm are quite irritating. Of course, there is the swelling issue and the fact that a lot of work was done in that small area. I'll just chime in with others- relax into a long recovery. I also think you may want to change/increase/combine pain meds. You can alternate Tylenol and Motrin every 2 hours, as they are completely different types of medication. Don't hesitate to call or e-mail your surgeon if necessary. Let us know how it is going over the next few weeks. Good luck.

Peggy

Alcie
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   Posted 4/2/2012 6:53 PM (GMT -6)   
If you had a hernia repair the surgeon probably also reached up into the mediastinum and cut loose and pulled down some more esophagus. This is done so the wrap won't pull back up through the diaphragm.

Once you understand the anatomy and the type of surgery done it's easy to understand what's hurting and why.

My hernia was so bad my stomach was stuck in my chest. I was in the hospital for 4 days and on pain meds for a month.

kolby
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   Posted 4/3/2012 10:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Test. Checking if this works....

kolby
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   Posted 4/3/2012 11:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello everyone. I am new here. I had my surgery on March 14. Everything seems to be going as you all are saying in the healing process. You people are great here. I am learning so much. THANK YOU.. My question is.. I am haveing gurgle and rlolling hunger like pains in my stomach. Icannot burp or belch. The doctor told me this. But i am haveing alot of "passing gas". Does this problem continue?? And i get pains in my back behind where the surgery was. Is this normal. I see the doctor next week. Tahnk you again so much. This is a great place for supprt.

GerdyGirl
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   Posted 4/5/2012 12:11 AM (GMT -6)   
The pain most likely comes from your diaphragm being irritated by surgery. Your internal organs don't have a lot of sensation, so pain (like a heart attack) is often felt somewhere close but not on the spot. Diaphragm pain is often in the shoulders. I had this too and it was gnarly but I found that walking a lot made it go away much more quickly. The good news is I was free of it by 2 weeks. Feel better soon.

Burninghell
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   Posted 4/9/2012 11:14 PM (GMT -6)   
well i hit the 2 week mark earlier today.


I'm still dealing with the regular chest pain, it seems to be consistent at night when i'm laying or reclining back, coincides with the pain i was having before i started the omeprazole a long time ago so it seem disappointing.


If i'm up and around i seem to be ok with minimal discomfort.

I have been keeping to the liquid diet up until yesterday at easter dinner i had some very soupy mashed potatoes and squash, and then some jellow, later on somemore mashed potatoes and gravy with blended up ham it all went down fine, but then earlier today i was sick and had some diarrhea and stuff...ick.

I'm actually have quite a bit of the burning chestpain at the moment as i type this laying in bed, i still have my bed raised up from before.

I have an appointment on thursday with the surgeon so hopefully i can get some answers to why i'm getting the regular heartburn/chest pain symptoms the same way i was before when laying down etc.

so far my outlook is bleak :(

Burninghell
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   Posted 4/9/2012 11:14 PM (GMT -6)   
and no i didn't have a hiatal hernia, it was just the wrap that was performed.

Burninghell
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   Posted 4/10/2012 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
does this still sound normal? had bad pain again this morning when i woke up.

kyheart
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   Posted 4/10/2012 8:00 PM (GMT -6)   
BurningHell

You are VERY early in your recovery. The swelling of the wrap may just now be beginning to go down. your insides are irritated. The diarrhea after the potatoes and gravy and blended ham is normal.. you will find that you have incidents with diarrhea on and off and there may not even be any one particular trigger for it. It just depends on how your wrap and stomach deal with what you introduce to it.
Please remember that you will recover more easily if you relax into your recovery and listen to your body. It will tell you if it is happy or upset with the way you are treating it.
Please remember that you have had MAJOR surgery.. 2 weeks is just scratching the surface on your recovery.. I just passed my 1st anniversary.. it flew by because I tried to relax and let my body tell me what to do.. and I had the wonderful people here at the forum to stand beside me and guide me through my recovery. I got frustrated and anxious and impatient.. the people here helped me back up and take it easy..

Please stay with us and we will be here for you just as all of these wonderful friends were here for me and so many others....

Reach for the Sunshine... Rainbows will follow
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Burninghell
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   Posted 4/10/2012 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks for the reply.


i guess just like many others i'm just frustrated with this and being off from work just makes it worse cause all i can do is sit around and think about it.

these last 2 weeks have felt like the longest 2 weeks of my life.


hopefully i can get some good news from the surgeon on thursday and i have not yet seen the bill from the clinic/hospital, hopefully my insurance (not very good) will pay a good portions so i won't have to completely drain my savings as i will be on short term disability until may.

It wouldn't be so bad but it seems that every evening the pain doesn't start to bother me until i lay back say in a chair/couch or i lay down and then i will definitely have pain the next morning, the pain seems to subside once i get up and get moving around which is the same as it was before the surgery.

I understand having pain etc while everything heals, its just that the onset of the pain seems all to familar.

But i'm working through it, i'm sure you'll be reading more from me but hopefully it starts to get more postive as the days go by.


thanks again.

kyheart
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   Posted 4/10/2012 10:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Hang in there and know that we are here to support as well as relate our experiences... It will get better and I understand the frustration....

Stay with us... we'll be here for you..

Sandi

dencha
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   Posted 4/12/2012 12:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Burning,
Just think about it.  You're having chest pain "like the pain you had" before taking PPIs.  At that time your esophagus was highly irritated and inflammed.  Now you've had major surgery in the chest area and you're experiecing pain.
 
On top of that, you're at 2 weeks and peak swelling, which is putting more pressure on the area. You've got lots of healing ahead of you, so hang in there.  These first two or three weeks are by far the worse of the recovery, and you've almost got all of that behind you.
 
The pain will gradually subside as you heal. 
Try not to let it get you down.  Just relax into the recovery and accept whatever path it takes.  Your body will heal in its own sweet time, and you can't rush the process.  Go with the flow and keep your eye on the final goal of healing and a better quality of life. 
 
There will be some ups and downs in the process, but don't panic.  Just listen to your body and follow its lead.  There will be times when you'll want to back up a bit on foods and baby things a bit. 
 
Hang in there!
Denise

Burninghell
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   Posted 4/12/2012 4:27 PM (GMT -6)   
well i had my followup today, i told her about the chest pain that i've been having at night while laying down or laying back, it was terrible again last night had a lot of problems trying to go to sleep.

this morning i still had pain wasn't as bad as yesterday morning but still there. and then even with being up and about i've had persistent pain all day.


the surgeon cleared me to start eating regular foods as long as i chew throughly and stuff.

said sometimes i can have the pain/irritation because of having mainly liquids only and that regular food should help.

if not she gave me the scenario of the surgery failing but i can feel the tightness of when i swallow certain things so i don't think it has failed.
also said it could be esophagitis or whatever causing the pain and i will need to see the gastroenterolgy dept again.
but to give it some more time and call if i'm still experiencing pain.

so i guess i'll give it another week or so, but the unbearable pain is just plain driving me crazy and the depression is setting in.

thanks for the support.

dencha
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   Posted 4/12/2012 4:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Burning,
Remember what I said about peak swelling.  Think about when anything is swollen...the pain is increased.  Relax.  It will improve.  What are you taking for pain?
Hang in there...
Denise

Burninghell
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   Posted 4/12/2012 5:28 PM (GMT -6)   
i've tried taking ibuprofen and tylenol now and then, dont' know if it helps or not.



i still have some pain killers leftover and i think i might start taking them again at night to see if it helps me sleep at all.


i was just hoping after the 2 week mark that i would start to feel better. guess i'll hope for week three.

dencha
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   Posted 4/12/2012 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Burning,
In my experience my swallowing got dicier and more painful as I moved toward the two week mark and peak swelling.  I also had more discomfort at the wrap site generally.  Once on the other side, when the swelling begins to subside, you should feel relief. 
 
I think you are very wise to break out the heavy duty pain meds.  You shouldn't be in pain if you can help it.  Have you tried ice?  I don't know...it may help.
 
Hang in there...
Denise
Words of wisdom by Eckhart Tolle:
"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

“Worry pretends to be necessary but serves no useful purpose”

“Accept - then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it.”

Burninghell
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   Posted 4/12/2012 5:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I seem to be in the most pain when i'm laying back or laying down in bed whether its on my back or my side etc. makes sleeping difficult.


usually when i'm up and around the pain isn't quite so bad, except today i'm having persistent pain in my chest etc.

i just took some ibuprofen see if it helps.

dencha
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   Posted 4/12/2012 6:46 PM (GMT -6)   
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