5 weeks post Nissen Fundoplication

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halo2000
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Date Joined Apr 2012
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   Posted 4/24/2012 5:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I just had my 5 week post op today. I met a nice lady at the surgeons office today that told me about this web site. I am so glad to find out about it! I have had so many questions about this operation and what to expect but did not know where to turn. I searched the web so many sleepless nights before I had this surgery and could never seem to find someone to chat with that had the same thing going on in their life as I did. Well, now I believe I have found just the right place.
 
I had GERD for 5 yrs. It was so bad that I slept on a wedge with 4 pillows (actually didn't get 0ver about 3 to 5 hrs. sleep a night) I lost 45 lbs. and gave up all of the foods we were no suppose to eat. I tried all the prescriptions drugs and after about a month they quit working for me. At the end I was on two protonics a day plus a pill 3 times a day to coat my throat and stomach. I finally went to see a surgeon and he said "I can fix that." So now here I am 5 weeks after surgery. He told me I should have my gallbladder out at the same time to make sure that was not part of the problem. So I had a double wammy there. I had a real hard time the first 3 to almost 4 weeks after surgery. I am 71 years old and this was a hard one on me. I have lost another 10 lbs. since being home.
 
I still get a burn in the middle of my chest sometimes at nighttime. Is this normal? I get a lot of gurgles and different sounds sometimes after eating or drinking. I am now able to eat soft foods as long as I chew them well. The other day we hd a friend take us out to lunch. I did not realize that I ate to much! smhair   Oh my I started hurting all across the center of my chest. It scared me so bad I thought I was going to have to make a trip to the ER. I walked and walked and after a couple of hours it finally got better. Needless to say I did not eat any dinner that night.
 
I am anxious to meet new friends on here that I can compare notes with nd know what to expect.
 
This is all new to me but looking forward to meeting you.
 

horsecrazylady
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   Posted 4/24/2012 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   
here i am! so happy you found this site. it has helped me so much! it was nice talking to you today. do we have the best surgeon ever???????? just love him and feel so blessed to have him as my dr. our new surgery hospital is top notch too. i loved my stay there. we did not have time to discuss our stay there, but mine was pretty good. gopi and ruth were my favorite nurses. boy o boy, if i ever need surgery again, i won't hesitate to use our surgery center. it was like a stay in a hotel compared to most hospitals. lets keep in touch on here. :-)

dencha
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   Posted 4/24/2012 6:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Halo,
Welcome to Healing Well!  I'm so glad that "horsecrazy" recommended the forum!  It is a perfect place to share, ask questions, and get lots and lots of support.  When I had my surgery 3 years ago, I was lucky enough to find it a few weeks before my surgery.  The members here helped me so much that I decided to stick around and help others the way I was helped.
 
There are quite a few forums out there, but many are very negative, and still more that weren't active so posts were very old.  Actually, a lot of what I read scared the heck out of me and kept me from having the surgery earlier.  Oh well...
 
Remember that your insides have been through a lot, so you're still getting some surgical pain.  The esophagus is a dumb organ, and it interprets all pain as reflux.  I asked my surgeon when I was getting reflux sensations, and he said that "at the early stages of recovery pretty much anything is possible."  The wrap has some residual swelling and is misshapen as a result.  It's very possible that a bit of reflux is slipping by.  Many continue with PPIs to keep themselves comfortable and protect the healing wrap from errant acid.
 
As you said, with the gallbladder removal you've had a double-whammy, and have to expect it'll make your recovery a bit harder.  It sounds as if you've been through a lot before having surgery, so keep in mind how you suffered as you recover.  At least your discomfort is moving you in a positive direction now!
 
I would suspect that you're probably having some dumping syndrome, and some of the loud gurgling is when the stomach prematurely dumps its contents into the small intestine.  This is a common reaction to stomach surgery AND gallbladder surgery, so it would be surprising if you're not dealing with some of that.  Do you have diarrhea some time after the gurgling occurs?  Don't worry.  It's normal.  As your healing progresses it will become less frequent until at some point it disappears altogether.  With me it took the full year and a little longer.  Some time in the second year I suddenly realized that it wasn't happening any more.
 
It's very common for people to have discomfort as they increase their food challenges.  At least you know that you need to limit the amount you put in your stomach.  As your recovery progresses you'll gradually be able to increase the amount you eat at one sitting.
 
It takes a full 6 months for the majority ofthe healing, and a full year for the rest.  If you can surrender to your recovery and follow it where it leads, you'll do great.  Just listen to your body and follow its lead.
 
Again, glad you've joined us!
Happy healing,
Denise

halo2000
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   Posted 4/25/2012 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Horsecrazylady,
 
I am soooo glad I met you in the doctor's office yesterday! I am so glad you told me about this web site. It is so nice to be able to chat with others that have had this surgery. There are so many things that we need to know. I really was not given any directions when I left the hospital. Other than to stay on liquids for the first week.
 
I do agree with you about the hospital. It was very nice. I had one nurse there that I just loved. Her name was Ophilia. I had others that was good too but she was my favorite!! I had an issue while in there after one of the breathing treatments. I  broke into a sweat and was wringing wet. It actually happened two different nights. I almost passed out both times. What happened was my blood pressure dropped to 59/46 and my heart rate went up to 140. The monitor was beeping all night long. The doctor seems to think I may have a heart condition. I never had any symptoms like that before. I passed all of the pre-op heart tests with no problems. The doctor said it could have been caused because of the surgery as he was working right close in the area of the heart. I am on a heart monitor now for 30 days. I would rather have it checked out to be sure everything is alright.
This is all new to me so not sure about this reply. Hope I am doing it right. lol
Anyway, it was so nice to hear from you. I hope you are feeling better. Are you able to eat very much? I lost another pound yesterday. Didn't want to do that.
I am looking forward to staying in touch with you on here. Take care. Hope each day you are feeling much better than the day before.
 

horsecrazylady
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   Posted 4/25/2012 8:31 PM (GMT -6)   
halo, i am eating far more than i probably should. i could stand to loose 30 pounds. i usually eat soup every three hours. i use campbell soup, make it with milk and put it in the blender. delish! i also scramble eggs. these seem to go down very well. i eat a lot of yougrt. i also love yams so i bake these, scoop out the flesh and load it with butter. also delish. as of yesterday i have lost 9 lbs in two weeks [yeah] but if i eat too much of these cream soups and sweet potatoes, this weight loss will slow. i might have to start making my soup with water. i used the milk at first because i could not eat a lot at one sitting and it filled me up with only a few bites. i never had the nurse you did, but i am so impressed with our hospital. even the janitor had a great personality. turned my heat up, brought me an extra blanket, fluffed my pillow, etc. the offered to do anything else i needed. first class place. sorry about your heart issues. all of the time in the hospital my bp was very high. like 150/100! my beepers also went off all night. i also passed my echo, ekg, and thallium stress test. [got a 97 on the stress test!] couldn't figure why my pressure was high. yesterday when i had my checkup, it was still high. i think it will go down as i loose this excess weight. i went on nexium 5 years ago and for the first time in my 58 years, gained 40 lbs! some say i can't blame the nexium, but nothing else in my life changed. if anything i became more active, keeping up with 5 horses and riding almost everyday. i have heard other's stories of how they also gained weight on this drug. i am sooooo happy to be off of it. finding that i need to take a short nap everyday right now. for the first time ever i am letting others do the feeding and cleaning for the horses. i am going to just take this slow and do everything right. you take care and we will talk soon. love judy

halo2000
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   Posted 4/25/2012 8:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Denise,
 
I am so glad to find out about this web site. You certainly did make me feel welcome. Thank you so much for all the helpful information you shared with me.
 
I do relate to what you said about the forums out there. I spent many a night looking for a sight that had someone I could chat with that was dealing with the same symptoms I was having. So many of them didn't have current postings or any one to really chat with.
 
I can relate to the stomach emptying you mentioned. I was not sure what was happening but now I know. Yes, I did get the rumble and than had to run to the bathroom. The first few days I had diarreha,
it was pretty bad. I told my husband that it looked like we may be home bound by the way things were happening. Now after a few weeks that has gotten a lot better. So I am happy to say I am able to go out. lol It still hits from time to time when you least expect it.
 
I am so glad you explained the surgical pain. It does feels like acid and I do get the burn at night while laying down right in the center of my chest. The doctor told me I could take Mylanta or Maalox but I really did not want to get back on acid medication after having surgery. I am still sleeping on the wedge with all the pillows. I am looking forward to laying down and sleeping like a normal person. I feel that I need to wait a few more weeks for that.
 
Did you gradually work into solid foods? I started with liquids, then a little cream of wheat and some creamy soups, scrambled egg etc. I'll have to be careful not to drink to much water as there will not be room for very much food.
 
I am so glad you explained that it does take at least 6 months before you really start getting healed inside. So many seem to think you are well in 6 weeks to 2 months. A year is more like it.
 
One thing I am interested in knowing. After the first year can you actually eat salad and pretty much eat normal? Can you take a swallow of water by that time or will we always have to take sips? Does your throat and stomach stop making all of these noises we are hearing now at 5 weeks pre-op?
 
It is so nice to hear from you. I am looking forward to hearing from you again. I am sure I will have many more questions to post on here. lol You are very dedicated to be interested in others that are going through what you have already been through. Very dedicated and nice lady.
 

Romani
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Date Joined Jan 2013
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   Posted 1/14/2013 1:59 AM (GMT -6)   
HI guys,
 
first time being on here, im only 22 and not overweight at all i suffered for a year with reflux and medication only made stuff worse. I'd wake up as food refluxed up my esophegus and it was miserable. When I would eat protein and use caffiene it made stuff worse. I had the fundoplication procedure 5 weeks ago and i dont know if this is normal. I still sometimes get the reflux symtoms where it is hard to swallow and as i fall asleep i wake up refluxing for a second before i fall asleep. I am able to sleep laying down but when i wake up my throat is a little sore till i get up and move around. i sometimes get jaw and neck pain, and headaches occasionally that come and go all day. Is this normal after five weeks, because my surgeon said after two weeks i should be able to go back to my normal activities. also he told me i could lift weights after six weeks. I would bench up to 200 lbs. Do you think I will be okay? Im also a boxer so workking out is pretty important to me. I might sound like a worrier but im only 22 and skinny so this is very scary for me. thanks guys. do you know of someone who had this surgery who works out with hundreds of lbs and is ok?

Pat Tall
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   Posted 1/14/2013 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Romani. Here is a thread on weight lifting that might be helpful .

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=2478305
 
 
 
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Post Edited By Moderator (dencha) : 1/14/2013 9:35:48 PM (GMT-7)


angie n
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   Posted 1/14/2013 11:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I had lap nissen 2 months ago andnow i am experiencing alot of pain when i eat, really tired, loose stools feels like it is getting stuck anyone had these problems i dont have insurance so i dont want to go in unless i have to any help would be appericated
 
angie

dencha
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   Posted 1/14/2013 11:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi angie,
Welcome to the Healing Well yeah   yeah   yeah Wrapped Club! yeah yeah   yeah  At two months you're still at the beginning of your recovery.  What you describe is certainly within the normal range of symptoms at your stage of recovery.  It's likely that you've begun to add a larger variety of foods to your diet, and your wrap is rebelling.
 
If you're getting pain when you eat, back off what you're eating and go to an earlier stage for a while.  Stick with soft foods and be sure that whatever you eat is fully and carefully chewed before swallowing. 
 
Keep room temperature water or tea nearby when you eat, as it eases the esophagus muscles and helps with swallowing.  It's likely that food you're eating is getting held up at the wrap site and is irritating the esophagus.  Be sure to sip water or tea after eating to ensure that what you're eating makes it into your stomach.  It's likely that there is still some wrap swelling, and this will subside as you heal.
 
You've just had major surgery and your upper GI tract has been revised.  Your outsides don't show it, but your insides have been through a LOT.
 
You can't rush this surgery.  Your healing will take its own sweet time.  If you can relax into your recovery and accept it, you'll do much better.  It sounds as if you were given the surgery and set loose to fend for yourself without much support. 
 
This forum is a great place to get information and encouragement from others who've been through the recovery you're experiencing.  (I had the surgery in February 2009.)
 
The loose stools is very common at your stage of the recovery.  It will gradually resolve as you heal. It takes a full six months for most of the healing and a year for the rest (mostly the body adjusting to the changes).
 
Listen to your body.  If what you're eating is causing pain, take it easy for a couple weeks until you feel better.  After you're better for a week or so, gradually introduce foods back into your diet.  Eat very slowly, and chew thoroughly.  Stay away from tough meats and untoasted bread.  Toasted bread chews nicely to a liquid.
 
Don't swallow anything that can't be chewed completely until it's a smooth creamy liquid consistency.  You're healing and you don't want to irritate your wrap.  If something doesn't chew completely, don't swallow it. turn
If you have a slow cooker (Crock Pot) try cooking some meat and veggies in that.  After hours and hours things will be soft and tasty!
 
Be sure to ask any questions that come to mind.  There are many here who know just what you're going through.  Glad you've joined us!
Hang in there!
Denise
GERD/Heartburn Moderator
Nissen Fundoplication 2/09
Allergy/Asthma

"Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”

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angie n
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   Posted 1/15/2013 8:13 PM (GMT -6)   
denise
thankyou so much for your reply :-) Its nice to know i am not the only one going through this. I went back to just soft foods going to see how that goes. Does any one recomend anything to help with the pain heat and ice make it worse mad
thanks,
angie
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