Has My Nissen Fundoplication Failed

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Baza
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   Posted 5/10/2012 4:09 AM (GMT -6)   
 Hi,just seen my GP with some problems ive been having since i had nissen surgery 10 weeks ago.Problems are nausea,belching and burping,throat clearing and white coated tongue.He said i still have acid reflux and the surgery has failed to work.Im totally devastated !I cant believe i went through all this for nothing.Seeing surgeon again in two weeks to see what he thinks.I have always thought the wrap was done too loose as i have been burping from the day i had it done. Barry cry
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Gaviscon99
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   Posted 5/10/2012 4:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi. I am 3 weeks post redo 180 degree anterior wrap and have all the symptoms of reflux, nausea, retching, lethargy, heartburn, White coating on Tongue, etc. Saw consultant yesterday and he thinks wrap has not worked, he's going to do some tests and decide what to o next. Very disappointing. Hope things work out for you.

aeshleyrose
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   Posted 5/11/2012 7:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Barry,

I respectfully suggest that you see your GI/surgeon. I don't doubt that your GP is a great doctor, but it's probably best to see a specialist about this. Most of them have phone numbers to call.

You will need additional testing before anyone can pronounce your surgery a failure.

Kindly,
Ashley

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   Posted 5/11/2012 7:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Also, may I suggest that you start keeping a food and symptom diary? It can be hard to recall details while sitting in a doctor's office sometimes. Record what you're eating, when you're eating it, and how it makes you feel.

Jonh71
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   Posted 5/11/2012 9:19 AM (GMT -6)   
When my wrap failed I had a gastroscopy to see if it was still there as this was a visual
check and confirmed it had come completely undone. When you say has failed to work do you mean that it is too loose and does not close your LES or that it has come apart? The difference is important to understand as the cause is different and can be taken into consideration when planning your way forwards. Best of luck.

Baza
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   Posted 5/11/2012 9:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,thanks for your replys.I feel that the wrap is too loose as i have been belching and burping from i had surgery and ive still nausea everyday.Ive also been getting alot of pain at the wrap site like heartburn pain when im lying down.Also i have this strange thing when i lay on my side,i get palpitations and feel like i have to burp,its like wind is gettin trapped somewhere,this happens even when i dont eat.Just dont feel well really.Im seeing surgeon in two weeks meanwhile ive a barium test nxt tuesday,dont know if that will tell anything.Thanks everyone! Barry

couchtater
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   Posted 5/11/2012 9:37 AM (GMT -6)   
What are you eating?
Are you using straws or drinking carbonated drinks?
Joy

Baza
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   Posted 5/11/2012 10:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joy,no fizzy drinks,still on soft diet,ie soups etc to see it that helps,makes no difference.Could the wrap still be swollen at 10 weeks by any chance? Barry

couchtater
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   Posted 5/11/2012 6:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Not likely, Was it a 360, 270 or 180 done on you?
Joy

Baza
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   Posted 5/12/2012 4:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,it was a 360 wrap.Barry

dencha
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   Posted 5/12/2012 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Barry,
It takes a full 6 months for the majority of healing and a full year for the rest.  You're not even at the 3 month mark.  You're struggling with a difficult post-op recovery, but it's far too soon to determine whether or not your wrap is failed.  I know it's hard to trust, and wait for improvements. 
 
I agree with Ashley's suggestion that you contact your surgeon and/or GI docs to get some feedback and understanding of what's going on with your recovery.
 
Until then, we're here to listen to your worries and support your recovery journey.
Best wishes,
Denise
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Baza
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   Posted 5/12/2012 9:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Denise,thanks for the support. Ive started taking nexium again to see if it helps,feelin really bad today,woke up with heart racing and a lot of wind comin up,this is exactly the way i was when i had esophagitis The heart racing scares me because i have Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and i keep thinking its my heart playing up. Thanks Again. Barry

aeshleyrose
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   Posted 5/12/2012 11:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Barry,

Sorry if I missed this, but have you been sleeping with the bed elevated? Maybe it would help if something is irritating the wrap.

Baza
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   Posted 5/12/2012 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
HI,yes ive had the bed elevated for the past five years,theres definitely something wrong with the surgery,im wondering if it herniated or something like that.I hope to see surgeon soon to get this looked at because im getting sTressed out which is a bad thing i know. Thanks . Barry

couchtater
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   Posted 5/12/2012 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Your wrap could be too tight, but to be sure ask your doctor to give you a barium swallow test and see how it's functioning.
Joy

Baza
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   Posted 5/13/2012 6:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,im refluxing,i think my gp was right that i have all the symtoms of reflux again,i was ok early in recovery because of the swelling,now it has went down ive been getting worse.My voice is hoarse,liquids at back of my throat,burping, my tongue is pure white and nausea after eating.Nightmare! Barry

Barbiedoll
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   Posted 3/12/2018 6:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I am new to the forum but found the replies of many people of great help to me. I am trying to understand and get information about the symptoms I have been having. I had a Nissan Findus Wrap with a 360 degrees. The surgery was August of 2017, which is seven months. I have had a great deal of difficulties post op. I felt nauseated and took Zofran. I called the surgeons office and the nurse said we have not heard of that happening. I continued to try to eat soft foods and very often food would get stuck in my throat and my husband gently hit my back and it loosened the food. This has caused a great deal of depression and I am afraid to eat. I have lost 20 pounds but it was a hard way to lose weight. It seems that gradually I have had symptoms of reflex, my tongue is coated in the morning, I have gas and gas pills do not work. I get nauseated from time to time and have found temporary relief from pepto bismol . I have read in the forum that these are symptoms of a failed Nissan fundoplication. The initial reason for the wrap was non closure of the les valve. A swallow study was performed with servere irritation to the esophagus but no Barrettes. A esophageal memomentry was done to see if I would tolerate a wrap. I am thinking about calling the surgeon that did the surgery but want to have the appropriate information to tell him. I know to request a repeat Ph study and am not sure what else to ask.
Thanks to everyone who has posted on this forum. It had opened mind to possibilities and probable solution.

SharonZ
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   Posted 3/13/2018 7:21 AM (GMT -6)   
At this point, you might want to consider going back on a PPI as some people need to do post-surgery. Most people do lose weight post-surgery, but most eventually gain it back. Simethicone always worked for my gas, so I don't understand why that doesn't give you relief and I always carry Zofran with me. My surgery was a complete success, but I still suffer from occasional bouts of nausea for no reason and I try to watch the amount of gas-producing foods that I eat. I didn't really feel like me "new" me until a year post-surgery. We aren't medical professionals here, but your doctor may want to repeat an endoscopy to check the integrity of the wrap, or you may want to get a second opinion.

Sharon
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