Going vegan w/ GERD?

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theacidrefluxman
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   Posted 5/21/2012 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Has this helped anyone? Thx.

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 5/21/2012 1:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I am sure this would be helpful. I am not eating vegan but I eat mostly veggies, fruits and some chicken/turkey. It has helped me. You will have to do some research on what the diet entails. I eat some things that Vegans do such as quinoa. I am checking with my GI doctor to see if I am allowed to have soy cheese, vegan hotdogs, soy milk etc. Give it a shot.

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   Posted 5/21/2012 1:41 PM (GMT -6)   
It's helped me loads, I must say. I know I complain about my symptoms a lot to you but before I went vegan it was every minute of every day - chest pressure, bloating, regurgitation, etc.

Now that I'm on a vegan diet, when I follow the diet strictly I can cheat with foods and get away with it scot free, but no GERD triggers still for me. I can't have pizza, alcohol or spaghetti, but I can have things like homemade macaroni and cheese without paying for it like I used to. That's a-okay with me most of the time - I can't lie, it really irritates me the rest of the time. I can usually have a cup of coffee every morning too with little to no problem.

Ashley

WJF
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   Posted 5/22/2012 9:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Great and what a timely post. Recently I am researching into diet.

Certain qualities of diet that have helped me and others:

low-fat -> absolutely necessary, promote gastric emptying.

alkaline -> lower acidity according to Dr. Kaufman's research, but personally I find kiwi works very good for me in reducing indigestion although it's acidic. Another counter-example: ACV sometimes works for me too.

low-carb -> beneficial to those who have problem digesting carbs, to avoid bloating and gases.

high-protein -> it's believed protein can increase LES pressure, but no one has yet reported the benefit of a high-protein diet.

vegan -> ?

The following adjustments very much depend on individuals:
cutting out food containing lactose -> to avoid lactose intolerance
cutting out food containing fruitose -> tp avpod fruitose intolerance
cutting out gas producing food like soy, broccoli etc

I made an interesting recovery today that prompted me to research into diet. I stopped a flare-up immediately after taking something very bitter. No one has so far reported the effect of bitters on GERD. I guess it's because eating bitter is a rare event for all of us. So I want to explore this matter further.

According to a website, bitters can trigger secretion of saliva, digestive juices, pancreatic juices, bile and thus improve digestion tremendously, reduce anxiety and stress, activate the parasympathetic branch of the autonomic nervous system (what does it mean?), improve nerve tone of the muscles of the entire digestive tract (sounds great, does it have effect on LES?)

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ericapeace2000
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   Posted 5/22/2012 9:46 AM (GMT -6)   
There is something on amazon that contains some bitter herbs that is supposed to help....worth reading the reviews again.
Diagnosed GERD, no other medical conditions (this one is enough)

WJF
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   Posted 5/22/2012 9:48 AM (GMT -6)   
ericapeace2000 said...
There is something on amazon that contains some bitter herbs that is supposed to help....worth reading the reviews again.


yeah Do you still have the links?

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 5/22/2012 9:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Check this one out on Amazon.com

Nature Works - Swedish Bitters
Diagnosed GERD, no other medical conditions (this one is enough)

WJF
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   Posted 5/22/2012 9:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Somebody said...
This stuff is amazing. I have had asthma since I was 3 years old, and started getting acid reflux symptoms when I was about 15 or so (I'm 30 now). I got fed up with taking both advair and whatever heartburn med I was on at the time (most recently, prevacid). The meds worked, but I was worried about long term side effects, so I bought the book "why stomach acid is good for you" by Jonathan Wright. He suggests increasing your stomach acid to reduce heartburn symptoms (counter intuative, I know, but brilliant) and argues why turning off your acid production is a bad solution. Anyway, one of the first recommendations he makes on how to treat yourself is bitters. They don't taste great, but it's doable. I mix about a teaspoon or so in a couple tablespoons of water and sip slowly, really making sure to taste it (that's the whole point - this is the signal to your stomach). I've quit prevacid cold turkey before and after a few days had a lot of heartburn pain/burping/hiccups and waking up in the middle of the night. This time, I quit cold turkey, but also added bitters into the mix. The heartburn totally went away. I even went to france right after and ate lots of cheese and drank coffee, along with all sorts of other bad habits. The other good news is that I am off my asthma meds too, and symptom free! I think bitters is a huge part of my success in quitting medication. I dont have to take bitters all the time anymore, maybe once every couple days if I feel a relapse coming on(mostly from drinking too much coffee!) It ends up being cheaper, and in my opinion, healthier, than the pharmaceutical option.


Somebody said...
I take 1 tsp twice a day. The taste soon goes away especially when it helps so much. My fiance's acid reflux is gone. I ordered a bottle for my son because unfortunately he inherited my fibromyalgia in the same places I had it. He has started on it & we are waiting to see if it helps his pain, but he has already said his acid reflux is gone.
Every night when he laid down acid reflux set in but it is gone. I am so thankful for the product it has been a life saver to me. My family & friends can not believe when I tell them that my pain is gone. That is pretty much all they have know for me. This is a miracle in my life.

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 5/22/2012 9:58 AM (GMT -6)   
It is worth trying. All of us are desperate at this point. The only natural remedies that have helped me so far have been manuka honey, PH Ion alkaline grass capsules, chamomille tea and aloe vera juice (george's). And they help, not cure. I have tried slippery elm, DGL, digestive enzymes, etc. I may decide to order it too.
Diagnosed GERD, no other medical conditions (this one is enough)

WJF
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   Posted 5/22/2012 6:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Not thinking of using bitters as a natural remedy. Though you can use this way, I am thinking of adding it to the diet, tasting the bitterness before and after meals to see if it makes a difference.

WJF
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   Posted 5/22/2012 6:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Somebody said...
*****JUST AN UPDATE**** today is August 7th and i have been daily using the sweetish bitters for over 6 weeks now. i do get occasional heartburn, but it is not that excruciating heat that goes on for days. i take a tums once in a while and that clears it up! it is inconsistent and when i have heartburn it seems to be because i overate or laid down after eating or if i drank soda or alcohol which are no-no's anyways.

the sweetish bitters are definitely working, overall. i am really quite amazed. just thought i'd pass that on.

Nickles
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   Posted 5/23/2012 1:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone,

I posted something about Swedish Bitters a couple of weeks ago, but nobody ever tried it or got back to me. My Naturopathic recommended it, but I started taking other things and decided to add this later on.

I have a bottle and I am going to use it in a few days. The thing burns when it goes down your throat, well not literally but you can feel it and it is super bitter.
Diagnosed with GERD/IBS in 2007. However, my symptoms are most similar to LPR. I am still unsure of the IBS diagnosis.

Currently I am taking a natural approach to my symptoms since July 2011.

Nickles

WJF
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   Posted 5/23/2012 4:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Nickles said...
Hi everyone,

I posted something about Swedish Bitters a couple of weeks ago, but nobody ever tried it or got back to me. My Naturopathic recommended it, but I started taking other things and decided to add this later on.

I have a bottle and I am going to use it in a few days. The thing burns when it goes down your throat, well not literally but you can feel it and it is super bitter.


I think no one on this forum has tried Swedish Bitters yet. I am also trying to use bitters as well to see if it makes a difference. :-) Keep me posted.

WJF
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   Posted 5/27/2012 4:59 AM (GMT -6)   
No luck with bitters. It doesn't improve my symptoms.
If you wanna try, do not to take it before meals, it can trigger secretion of stomach acid!

Raydio
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   Posted 5/30/2012 3:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Let us know how it works out. I personally can not eat to many veggies. It actually gives me worse heartburn and reflux with most of them
42 years old with IBS, UC, GERD, High Anxiety/stress, low iron Anemia and bleeding hemrroids. And thats on a good day.
Have 2 amazing kids and 1 on the way and would like to be a regular dad.

Jhall387
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   Posted 6/1/2012 12:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I would also like to if anyone has tried it or once you do, this really interests me !

new_2012
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   Posted 6/1/2012 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
@jhall387,

I had organic vegan food for 3 months. It did help my body stabilize acid levels. 3 weeks ago, I started consuming little quantities of fat free yogurt, as my GI had recommended it. I also removed processed food from my diet.

I think it was easier for me to try this experiment as I have been vegetarian all my life. Just remember to include other sources of protein and calcium in your diet.

Hope this helps !
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