Koufman's pepsin treatment patent

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DOGGBONES
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   Posted 5/31/2012 5:25 AM (GMT -6)   
I was looking for treatments to protect against pepsin and was shocked when I came across this patent by good ol Dr. Koufman........here's the link.

http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090148530


Now what I don't understand is why would she "the LPR guru" patent something but not bring it to the market? She applied for the patent Dec. 8th 2007 and received the patent on Jun. 11th 2009. Yet, no one has mentioned that Koufman had offered this treatment to them, nor is it mentioned in her Dropping Acid book or in her blogs. I have to ask myself, was the reason for the patent to keep others from bringing "it" to the market? After all there's a lot more money in treating people rather than curing them. It just seems very odd to me for someone to patent something if it doesn't work, and never speak of it as well.

PPI-LESS is the only person on this forum that has been treated by her that I'm aware of, perhaps he could get in contact with her and ask her to explain this why this treatment is not offered.

Doggbones

aciphexo
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   Posted 5/31/2012 9:04 AM (GMT -6)   
There was an effort (a small trial/study) around this research - resulting in a product that Dr. Koufman was/is trying to bring to market called "peptigon". If you google on "peptigon" - you'll come across some articles and message board threads - some saying that this product did not work and is basically a fraud. However, I don't have any deeper insights into this.

This website is still around:
www.peptigon.com

I'd looked into this last year and had attempted to contact folks listed on the contact page of the website, however did not hear back from them back then. However, if this website is still around, may be they are still working on making this happen.

After Dr. Koufman basically gave up on me, I don't communicate with her - we had a breakup of sorts :). I don't blame her as all these doctors are basically helpless with my types of patients. Unfortunately, none of them expressed any sympathy (not in their job description, I suppose). They were all quick to show me the door instead.

If you want, you can call their office (or contact the folks listed on peptigon.com's contact page and see what they have to say).

theacidrefluxman
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   Posted 5/31/2012 9:44 AM (GMT -6)   
This is interesting. I'd have to think people like us (who have tried 10-20 things probably by now, with no luck), would jump at the opportunity to try something like this. But at the same time, maybe the market is too small to make it viable?

Given the level of detail in certain parts of her book it does seem odd that she would not mention this product, or at least the science behind it and what something of its nature might hold in the future. That to me is very surprising.

I have no doubt Koufman helps certain types of patients very successfully, but I coincidentally just went off the Koufman diet after 2 weeks of worse-than-normal symptoms, and am now symptom free for the past 3 days (something that occurs every 3 months or so to me), even though I have eaten things like acidic fruits, pizza, and canned tuna in olive oil. I don't think Koufman merits much criticism, but I do find it odd that I found out about this product from DOGGBONES and not Koufman's book or many articles which I have read, wherein which it would have fit in perfectly in the parts explaining her theory on GERD.

DOGGBONES
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   Posted 5/31/2012 9:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Kitt,

I apologize if I offended you or anyone else, that was not my intent. I do feel I have followed the rules of the forum and have contributed to many discussions for the purpose of causes, complications, diagnosis, medical treatments, and symptoms. Having said that, I was only asking "why" would someone never bring up or speak of something they may support/help others? My main purpose wasn't an attempt to find fault in some DR. but rather an attempt to try to understand why this treatment isn't offered.

For now I will refrain from posting until I feel comfortable that my comments are not offensive to anyone. I have enjoyed giving and receiving help from this forum and it's members.

PPI-LESS, thank you.

I wish everyone here all the best and good health!

Doggbones

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 5/31/2012 10:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I too am confusedby this. She covers pepsin in her book and says that no one has created an anti-pepsin drug...but maybe the treatment she has a patent on still needs further development and she is being cautious as to not give false hope....I am not sure. My diet is more restrictive than Koufman's and it has been helping, not curing. The thing is doctors all have their own theories on this diet thing, the only thing they really agree on is the triggers. I am hopeful in the next few years there may be some more treatment options available for GERD.
Diagnosed GERD, no other medical conditions (this one is enough)

aciphexo
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   Posted 5/31/2012 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
In my research/experience, here are a couple of ways food / diet relates with GERD:
#1 If certain foods trigger your GERD, then you can avoid them and you can manage your symptoms that way.
#2 If your throat is already inflamed with reflux, then you can heal it by not eating acidic foods and following diets such as the one in Dr. Koufman's book. The theory here is pretty simple: acidic foods can work with the pepsin on their way down and continue to damage the delicate throat tissues.

#1 happens mostly for people with digestion or high acid production issues. I do not fall into this category (ARM - may be you are also not in that category).

I did benefit last year when my throat was all burny and inflamed when I followed a diet close to Dr. Koufmans for several months. My throat has healed and I can eat things that I could not back then - as they would hurt my throat when they would go down. Further, since my GERD has calmed down and does not hit my throat as much any more, the throat tissues are more or less stable in my case now. I will continue to go and see a local ENT every 6 months to monitor its progress (in fact, my appointment with him is coming up next week). So, my GERD is not cured but my throat symptoms are almost gone now and I do credit the low-acid diet for that.

Hope this helps.

Post Edited (PPI-LESS) : 5/31/2012 10:14:04 AM (GMT-6)


theacidrefluxman
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   Posted 5/31/2012 10:37 AM (GMT -6)   
@ DOGGBONES,

I think your post may have had some slight undertone of 'Dr. bashing', maybe unintentional. I also think the post clearly deals with both "causes" and specifically "medical treatments". So in short I hope I am not immodest in saying that I get your point of view and St. Kitt's, and imagine St. Kitt probably has to call anything on or near the line as foul, to use a baseball analogy, so that people are clear on the rules.

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 5/31/2012 11:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I think we all are just frustrated.
Diagnosed GERD, no other medical conditions (this one is enough)

Chuck T
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   Posted 5/31/2012 12:11 PM (GMT -6)   
There is only one reason Peptigon is not offered. It does not work. If it did, Dr. Koufman would be cashing in on it, like she does with the rest of her LPR treatments.

stkitt
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   Posted 5/31/2012 1:15 PM (GMT -6)   
 
I deleted my post as I may have misunderstood your thread - I was not aware the product was available on the market and my point was simply we could not guess why Dr. Kaufman did not speak of a product that was never marketed, but if indeed there is a product, then yes, discussing it is fine. 
 
theacidrefluxman - thanks for your wisdom !
 
DOGGBONES - you are a valued member here in the forum so please do not feel I was offended - I was simply stating my own feelings. 
 
Kindly,
Kitt
 

DOGGBONES
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   Posted 6/1/2012 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Methylcellulose powder is what is in Peptigon. Maybe the choking issue is why it's not on the market? I'm not sure????

Take this stuff at your own risk......Read carefully!


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TheSiXness
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   Posted 6/25/2013 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
any word on peptigon lately?
-TheSixness-

DOGGBONES
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   Posted 6/26/2013 5:23 AM (GMT -6)   
I have heard nothing new on this product. I don't follow Koufman closely anymore, as I'm not a fan of someone who charges $500 an office visit and doesn't accept insurance.

TheSiXness
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   Posted 6/26/2013 5:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I wouldn't mind paying 500 dollars a visit if I didn't have to wait 2 months for an appointment. In all reality though, 500 dollars is insane. Apparently social class matters a lot when it comes to medical care.

DOGGBONES
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   Posted 6/27/2013 5:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Good health is reserved for those with great wealth....it's the American way! mad
 
As far as Koufman goes, there was a couple members here that did go see her. However I don't recall any of them going back for more visits.

Eleanor99
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   Posted 5/5/2014 11:33 AM (GMT -6)   
I was charged $2500 for one visit with Dr. K. It was resolved by my insurance company because they had erroneously told me I could go with a $50 co-pay, so I ended up paying just the $50. But STILL....I was stunned and shocked.
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